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[amibroker] Re: Perfect Profit and DOF



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Dennis,

Do you see any point of distinction between benchmarking against the 
(idealized) cycles and benchmarking as I described it?

Do you see any evidence that cycles (frequency and amplitude) are 
consistent and/or persistent within time periods e.g. minute to 
minute etc up to year to year, or between symbols, instruments or 
markets?

Just interested to add some colour to Howard's ZigZag teaser.

brian_z



--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>
> Thomas,
> 
> I am in the middle of rewriting this code at the moment.  This 
stuff  
> is embedded in about 5000 lines of AFL. I am working with intraday  
> range bars, I use (H+L)/2 for my zigzag input.  I wrote my own 
zigzag  
> AFL to add the point when a signal becomes valid without look 
ahead  
> (though that is irrelevant to this use).  I don't use the back 
tester  
> at all or CBT for my system.  I wrote my own simple custom back 
tester  
> that better suits my single issue futures trading.
> 
> You get a perfect looking equity curve with a lookahead zigzag.  
Only  
> the absolute gain will change with the settings and will peak at a  
> certain setting if the trading overhead is included.  looking at 
the  
> trading arrows on the chart will yield insights about the maximum  
> profit potential trade size and frequency.  There is no magic to 
it.   
> It has been done and written about many times before.  It is the 
most  
> basic way to determine maximum profit potential of a market.
> 
> BR,
> Dennis
> 
> 
> On May 17, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Thomas Ludwig wrote:
> 
> > Dennis,
> >
> > thanks for your reply!
> >> Thomas,
> >>
> >> That is what I do.  Though I also add all the trading overhead 
as if
> >> it were real trades,
> >
> > Yes, I think that's what gp_sydney is also doing in his "Looping 
in
> > Amibroker AFL.pdf" (see files section) in the "Gain Calculation"
> > example on p. 18.
> >
> >> then adjust the % change to the maximum total
> >> profit which gives you a lot more insights.
> >
> > Hm - I'm not sure that I understand ...
> >
> > Dennis, are you possibly willing to share your code?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas
> >>
> >> BR,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >> On May 16, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Thomas Ludwig wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Rober Pardo suggests in his book "The Evaluation and 
Optimization
> >>> of Trading Strategies" the calculation of "Perfect Profit" (PP)
> >>> which "is the sum total of all of the potential profit that 
could
> >>> be realized by buying every bottom and selling every top". By
> >>> comparing Net Profit of your trading system with PP you can
> >>> calculate the "Model Efficiency" (ME).
> >>>
> >>> I think PP can be easily calculated as a stand-alone code by
> >>> applying a,
> >>> say, 1% Zigzag. But how can it be done if I want to add ME as an
> >>> additional metric in the Custom Backtester? The Equity() 
function
> >>> is used for your trading system and cannot be used for the 
Zigzag
> >>> system at the same time in order to compare both, IMHO. So the 
only
> >>> solution I
> >>> can think of is to loop through all Zigzag signals and calculate
> >>> the profit programmatically. Or am I overlooking something?
> >>>
> >>> Pardo also suggests to calculate the Remaining Percentage of
> >>> Degrees of
> >>> Freedom (through Used Dgrees of Freedom and Original Degrees of
> >>> Freedom). Any idea if and how they can be counted in AFL?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
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