[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

[amibroker] Re: Perfect Profit and DOF



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links

Just realise that there is a flaw in this method that I outlined in 
that it is based on the assumption that MAE occurs before MFE which 
is not always the case

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Paul Ho" <paultsho@xxx> wrote:
>
> Thomas
> I think the model efficency can be calculated in the CBT without 
> directly getting PP, This can be done by obtaining the Theoretical 
> buy point (tbp) around the actual buy point, and obtaining tsp 
around 
> the sell point.
> The tbp can happen either before or just after the buy point. 
> first look at the before scenario, you can either use trough or LLV 
> function. the problem with the trough function is that the low 
> obtained from Trough() could be quite far away. Lets say we use LLV
> (L, pds) where pds is half the average bars held obtained directly 
> from CBT metrics
> so tbp_before = LLV(L, bars/2)
> To find tbp_after we can use the mae metrics from backtest directly
> tbp_after = (1 + mae)*buyprice;
> tbp = min(tbp_before, tbp_after);
> The cbt code for tbp could be as follows:
> ....
> bo = GetBacktesterObject(); 
> bo.Backtest(); 
> st.bo.GetPerformanceStats(0);
> bars = st.GetValue("AllavgBarsHeld");
> me = 0; //stores the sum of model eff per trade
> for( trade = bo.GetFirstTrade(); trade; trade = bo.GetNextTrade
() )   
> {
>    sym = trade.Symbol;
>    mae = trade.GetMAE();
>    lp = foregin(sym, "L");
>    tbp_before = lastvalue(valuewhen(datetime()== 
trade.EntryDateTime, 
> LLV(lp,bars/2)));
>    tbp_after = (1+mae)*trade.EntryPrice;
>    tbp = min(tbp_before, tbp_after);
>    ........
>    tsp = max(tsp_before, tsp_after);
>    theoreticProfitratio = tsp/tbp;
>    realprofitratio = trade.ExitPrice/trade.EntryPrice;
>    me += realprofitratio/theoreticProfitratio;
> }
>  .... // do the same with open position
>    mean_me = me/st.GetValue("AllQty");
> There are a number of variations depending on your perference
> 1. You can use trough and peak instead of LLV and HHV
> 2. instead of average ME, you can go for accumulated ME by dividing 
> real profit / theoretical profit. Not sure the figure would be too 
> small to make a lot of sense.
> 3. you can use geometric average instead of arithmetic average
> 
> Now a few questions to both Thomas and Dennis
> What kind of insights can one obtain with this comparsion? and How 
do 
> you intend to use it? And would you mind post some of your findings?
> 
> Cheers
> Paul.
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >
> > Thomas,
> > 
> > That is what I do.  Though I also add all the trading overhead as 
> if  
> > it were real trades, then adjust the % change to the maximum 
total  
> > profit which gives you a lot more insights.
> > 
> > BR,
> > Dennis
> > 
> > On May 16, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Thomas Ludwig wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Rober Pardo suggests in his book "The Evaluation and 
Optimization 
> of
> > > Trading Strategies" the calculation of "Perfect Profit" (PP) 
> which "is
> > > the sum total of all of the potential profit that could be 
> realized by
> > > buying every bottom and selling every top". By comparing Net 
> Profit of
> > > your trading system with PP you can calculate the "Model 
> Efficiency"
> > > (ME).
> > >
> > > I think PP can be easily calculated as a stand-alone code by  
> > > applying a,
> > > say, 1% Zigzag. But how can it be done if I want to add ME as an
> > > additional metric in the Custom Backtester? The Equity() 
function 
> is
> > > used for your trading system and cannot be used for the Zigzag 
> system
> > > at the same time in order to compare both, IMHO. So the only  
> > > solution I
> > > can think of is to loop through all Zigzag signals and 
calculate 
> the
> > > profit programmatically. Or am I overlooking something?
> > >
> > > Pardo also suggests to calculate the Remaining Percentage of 
> Degrees  
> > > of
> > > Freedom (through Used Dgrees of Freedom and Original Degrees of
> > > Freedom). Any idea if and how they can be counted in AFL?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users 
only.
> > >
> > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > >
> > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check 
DEVLOG:
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > >
> > > For other support material please check also:
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>



------------------------------------

Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.

To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to 
SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com

For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/

For other support material please check also:
http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:amibroker-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    mailto:amibroker-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    amibroker-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/