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Hello,
Please post those files freely. Any other codes based on AmiBroker formulas
and/or ADK docs can be published on Users' KB without any problem.
You are also free to send the code on this list.
Generally ADK docs can now be published anywhere provided that original copyright
notices stay in place.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL sample file?
> Tomasz,
>
> It might be easier for someone to study the DLL source as an example
> if I attached the zip of the complete set of files ready to open
> project in Visual C++ 2008 Express. However, on close examination I
> see that some of those files which came from the "Sample" in the ADK
> have your copyright on them, so I think I would need your permission
> to post it to the UKB. What do you think about this?
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> Great to hear that. I guess that there will be lots of people
>> waiting for
>> your UKB article and the DLL. Please include the source (as
>> attachment) to UKB article,
>> so others can learn "by example".
>> Your contributions are appreciated very much.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>> sample file?
>>
>>
>>> Tomasz,
>>>
>>> This final note (famous last words) is to let you know that I have
>>> succeeded in making a DLL that gets rid of AutoIt in my Example
>>> Flexible Parameters program. In addition, I added the state of the
>>> modifier keys (shift, alt, control) to my general mouse button
>>> states.
>>>
>>> Everything turned out to be "reasonably" easy except one thing --the
>>> original problem. It took me two days of research and
>>> experimentation
>>> to finally make that work. I turns out that even though it was easy
>>> to save and restore to position of the scroll bar, the data items in
>>> the window are not affected (they are not internally coupled to the
>>> scroll bar position so do not scroll with it). I did a lot of
>>> searching on this problem and found that it was a problem that
>>> exasperated many others, and the solution details varied by
>>> person. I
>>> tried the various solutions suggested without success. Finally
>>> through "trial and error" I found a solution different from the
>>> others
>>> that did work.
>>>
>>> After becoming more familiar with how MS does windows internal
>>> operations, I have a new appreciation for what you must have gone
>>> through to bring us the AmiBroker program... I will say no more about
>>> MS... I leave that to you...
>>>
>>> I generated 5 Functions so far:
>>>
>>> 1. Find and bring a Window to the foreground based on its title bar
>>> name (Parameters Window).
>>> 2. Get the scroll position of the Parameters Window.
>>> 3. Click "Reset all" button of the Parameters Window.
>>> 4. Set the scroll position of the Parameters Window.
>>> 5. Get the state of the modifier keys.
>>>
>>> Based on this, I do not see any burning need to include support for
>>> modifier keys in AFL since a tiny DLL will provide it, and those that
>>> need it are likely building more sophisticated AFL applications.
>>> However, I would not discourage you from adding it either.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to see the actual Function C++ source, I will be
>>> happy
>>> to post it here or email it to them. The DLL itself will be
>>> available
>>> later as part of my Flexible Params example AFL to be released on the
>>> UKB. As an aside, I also added some nice modular and simple Gfx
>>> drawn
>>> button functions to my Flexible Params Example that I will also share
>>> soon. They are very handy to me for showing/hiding information on
>>> the
>>> chart. They take advantage of my parameter system to integrate
>>> directly into the parameters for saving their state between AB
>>> launches.
>>>
>>> Things are moving forward very nicely for me thanks to your very
>>> helpful support.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tomasz,
>>>>
>>>> Wow! Thank you... Not only the answer on a silver plater, but the
>>>> keys
>>>> to the silver chest too!
>>>> I feel like I am being rewarded doubly for my efforts.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I am reasonably smart, but not a genius, just an inventor/
>>>> engineer. I don't want others to think I am doing something that is
>>>> beyond the capabilities of ordinary smart persons. If someone is
>>>> trying to make money using a computer and AmiBroker, they must be
>>>> reasonably smart person to begin with.
>>>>
>>>> By learning AFL first, I recognized parallels in syntax, and
>>>> concepts
>>>> to C++ and this made it much faster to learn what was going on. AFL
>>>> is much simpler to learn though --plus it has array operations to
>>>> make
>>>> many tasks simple without having to use loops. I highly recommend
>>>> that people who do not program now, expand their knowledge by
>>>> learning
>>>> AFL programming. It will be useful in many ways.
>>>>
>>>> I have spent a lot of time programming in AFL to create my trading
>>>> platform ideas during the last almost two years. I have come to
>>>> appreciate all the thought and effort you have put into
>>>> AmiBroker. It
>>>> is you who should be complimented. It is a tough job to try to be
>>>> all
>>>> things to all people.
>>>>
>>>> Now with this generous information from you, I am going to kick
>>>> AutoIt
>>>> out of my Flexible Parameters AFL code ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are welcome. I must compliment you that you are really smart if
>>>>> you figured it out so quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to pressing 'reset all' from C level, you can use the same
>>>>> technique.
>>>>> Actually you can send the BN_CLICKED notification to parent instead
>>>>> of sending mouse down/up
>>>>> messages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> UINT nControlID = 403; // 403 is the ID of reset all button
>>>>> HWND hResetAllButton = GetDlgItem( hParamWindow, nControlID );
>>>>>
>>>>> ::SendMessage( hParamWindow, WM_COMMAND, MAKEWPARAM( nControlID ,
>>>>> BN_CLICKED ), (LPARAM) hResetAllButton );
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As to modifier keys
>>>>>
>>>>> if( ::GetAsyncKeyState( VK_ALT ) < 0 ) { ... alt key pressed down }
>>>>> if( ::GetAsyncKeyState( VK_SHIFT ) < 0 ) { ... shift key pressed
>>>>> down }
>>>>>
>>>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646293.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> I can add GetAsyncKeystate to native AFL if there is demand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>>>>> sample file?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomasz,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I understood that the window with the scroll bar was a
>>>>>> child of
>>>>>> the tabs control which was a child of the Parameters Window. I am
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> sure why my method did not work, but THANK YOU for the last "hint"
>>>>>> which does work -- "hint" was more like handing me the answer on a
>>>>>> silver platter ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My DLL now works fine using your method to directly get the handle
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the child control with the scroll bar in it. Addressing it via
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ID
>>>>>> is a much easier method. I saw the ID using the AutoIt Window
>>>>>> Info
>>>>>> program, but I did not know how to utilize it. I looked through
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> MS doc on windows functions but did not see a way to use it. If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> had not provided the "hint" I might never have found that
>>>>>> solution,
>>>>>> because it was in the Dialog Box section and even named "Get
>>>>>> Dialog
>>>>>> Item." Sometimes there is no substitute for experience --
>>>>>> especially
>>>>>> when the documentation is not intuitively obvious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I am off and running again, and can clean up the DLL with
>>>>>> "safety
>>>>>> features" and finish adding this needed feature to my Flexible
>>>>>> Parameters AFL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thank you for playing along with me on this challenge. I
>>>>>> learned a
>>>>>> lot of useful information in a few short days (about 10 hours of
>>>>>> actual work). I even see how I should be using some different
>>>>>> naming
>>>>>> conventions based on your last example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that others following this thread (which actually started
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> offshoot of the thread "Big symbol text in the background")
>>>>>> found it
>>>>>> entertaining, informative, and inspiring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I am starting to wonder if I can add some more functions to my
>>>>>> DLL
>>>>>> that will let me to get rid of AutoIt completely. I much prefer
>>>>>> simple straight forward solutions that do not rely on interactions
>>>>>> between too many different vendors products. I will give this
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> thought later. I suppose the only thing I would really need to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>> how to do is sending a mouseUp message to the "Reset all" button
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the Parameters Window. Not sure how that can be done, but it must
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> possible because AutoIt can do it. Perhaps I can even determine
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> state of the keyboard modifier keys --but I think you may be
>>>>>> providing
>>>>>> that in the future for AFL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point is, I do not feel as limited in what I can do with AFL
>>>>>> now --
>>>>>> given some hints, learnings, and work. Some things will require
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> to add features to AFL to make them easy to use for everyone, but
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> simple things, I can figure out how to do with a DLL now with
>>>>>> just a
>>>>>> little help now and then from experienced users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The parameter window does not contain a scrollbar because it
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> parent
>>>>>>> of actual parameter list window. Therefore to get a handle of
>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>> window that contains the scrollbar you need to traverse children
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> of parameter window, or better (easier), get the child control
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> appropriate ID.
>>>>>>> The ID of actual list is 88.
>>>>>>> So you would need to call
>>>>>>> HWND hActualList = GetDlgItem( h_ParamWindow, 88 );
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if( hActualList )
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> nScrollPos = GetScrollPos( hActualList, SB_VERT );
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SetScrollPos( hActualList, SB_VERT, nPos, TRUE );
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:08 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>>>>>>> sample file?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tomasz,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am reporting back on my success as far as it goes on this
>>>>>>>> challenge,
>>>>>>>> and request another hint. I have succeeded in learning how to
>>>>>>>> write a
>>>>>>>> C++ DLL function with freely available programs and
>>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>>> The DLL can get the scroll position of the top child window of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> foreground window and return the result to AFL. I have also
>>>>>>>> written a
>>>>>>>> function that will set the scroll position to a value specified
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> AFL and return the old position as I originally set out to do.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> should give me the ability to get or set the scroll position on
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> AmiBroker program window that is active and has a vertical
>>>>>>>> scroll
>>>>>>>> bar. For instance, with this DLL, I can now get and set the
>>>>>>>> scroll
>>>>>>>> position on the Formula Editor Window just as expected.
>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Parameters Window returns an error that it contains no scroll
>>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> though it is visible on the screen, so I have not succeeded
>>>>>>>> yet in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> original challenge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since you wrote the code that created the (I am assuming) child
>>>>>>>> window
>>>>>>>> with the scrollbar in the Parameters Window, I have to ask you
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> next question. Is there a key concept that I am missing
>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> to get the handle to the Parameters Window child control/window
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the scroll bar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have looked everywhere I know to look for the answer, but have
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>> up blank. The only possibility I can think of is you wrote this
>>>>>>>> child
>>>>>>>> window in a custom way that does not support the functions I
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get or set the scroll. The class string does have a strange
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>> name for this window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the Function.cpp code segment I wrote that gets the
>>>>>>>> scroll
>>>>>>>> position (or the error code):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // GetWindowScroll( )
>>>>>>>> // This function returns the vertical scroll position
>>>>>>>> // of the top window of the foreground (active) window
>>>>>>>> // Returns zero if not successful
>>>>>>>> // Temp Debug: Returns the error code if not successful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AmiVar VGetWindowScroll( int NumArgs, AmiVar *ArgsTable )
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> AmiVar OldScroll;
>>>>>>>> OldScroll.type = VAR_FLOAT;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HWND foreWindow = GetForegroundWindow();
>>>>>>>> HWND topWindow = GetTopWindow(foreWindow);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> int OVWScroll = GetScrollPos( topWindow, SB_VERT );
>>>>>>>> OldScroll.val = OVWScroll;
>>>>>>>> if(OVWScroll==0){DWORD dw = GetLastError(); OldScroll.val =
>>>>>>>> dw;} ;//
>>>>>>>> Debug code
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> return OldScroll;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there is something that you do not want to reveal publicly on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> forum, please PM me. Otherwise, please another hint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL --the blind leading the blind. I wanted to relate my
>>>>>>>>> experiences
>>>>>>>>> in attempting this "Impossible for my level of experience and
>>>>>>>>> tools"
>>>>>>>>> solution to my problem to encourage others that it can be
>>>>>>>>> done. I
>>>>>>>>> also knew I would need a little help from a knowledgeable
>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> TJ to point me in the right direction. After all, it would be
>>>>>>>>> foolish to attempt to do something if there was no reasonable
>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>> at all, and he would know. I searched on the internet to
>>>>>>>>> fill in
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> details. We don't always have to have the solutions handed
>>>>>>>>> to us
>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> silver platter --as nice as that is. I also did not believe
>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>> should have to spend a long time with books, manuals, or buy
>>>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>>> just to make a 10 line program that I needed now. Besides I
>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>> better by discovering things than reading about them in books.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> little light bulbs go on quite often when I have to work for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since I don't know C++ , every line I write has errors. I just
>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>> different possibilities and recompile until I hit on a syntax
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> works. It usually takes 3-5 attempts to get each line to work,
>>>>>>>>> then I
>>>>>>>>> go to the next line. If I don't get the result I expect, I try
>>>>>>>>> different experiments, and by the process of elimination I
>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> is going on. If I get really stuck, I will ask for help again.
>>>>>>>>> Trial and error engineering!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I still don't have the solution I want working. I wrote the
>>>>>>>>> DLL
>>>>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>>>> had envisioned it, and it does work as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>>>> However, I
>>>>>>>>> believe I am missing a key concept about which window in the
>>>>>>>>> "Parameters Window" contains the scroll bar since I get an
>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>> message that the foreground window has no scroll bars. I am
>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>> guessing that the tabbed window structure is such that there
>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>> child window overlaid on the main Parameters window that has
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> scroll bar. Now I have to figure out how to get its handle.
>>>>>>>>> Notice
>>>>>>>>> all those Windows type concepts I am throwing around after
>>>>>>>>> only a
>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>> of poking at the problem --LOL.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> During some of my internet searches, I did come across some
>>>>>>>>> references
>>>>>>>>> to VB that would lead me to think that I might be able to solve
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> problem with it also. However, I know no more about VB than
>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>> about C++, so I might as well do it at the lowest level for the
>>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>> problem that it is. At least C++ and AFL look enough alike
>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> guess at the syntax of C++.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Getting frustrated and giving up is something I got over many
>>>>>>>>> decades
>>>>>>>>> ago after realizing that the only way to fail is to give up,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> way to succeed is to never give up. Once you determine that
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> succeed no matter what it takes, the setbacks are just part of
>>>>>>>>> learning about the solution. It does irk me though when I am
>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>> wrong information that takes me far in the wrong direction and
>>>>>>>>> wastes
>>>>>>>>> a lot of time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as the typo in the example goes, I don't think TJ
>>>>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>> anything about it on the board. If nobody noticed it for 7
>>>>>>>>> years,
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is not critical to get fixed on a moments notice. I would not
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> mentioned it publicly except that it made a good story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2008, at 9:30 AM, ab319320 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dennis good work. There are two possibilities for the error
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> example. I have to wonder if Tomasz even picked up on the
>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned as he was caught up in compiler talk and did not
>>>>>>>>>> thank
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> and say that the error would be fixed. That aside Tomasz has
>>>>>>>>>> done a
>>>>>>>>>> terrific job on MY AMI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But, errors in examples as in a 21 day vc++ book frustrated me
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> point that my vc++6.0 pro ed just sets on the shelf. We all
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> different levels of tolerance and Dennis yours excels.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I discovered MS's Express series just a month ago and typed my
>>>>>>>>>> 1981
>>>>>>>>>> basic program into vbasic 2008 express. I had over a hundred
>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>> msgs but it was easy to work through. I think the vb is
>>>>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> the vc express because of the error window (which is more like
>>>>>>>>>> vc6.0). MS has provided a powerful on-line help enter-
>>>>>>>>>> face. Vb
>>>>>>>>>> express, I think, allows creation of a dll.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dennis I hope that you will post a "How To dll" in the Files
>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>> which is user friendly. It appears you may have that ability.
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes experienced people write over the heads of less
>>>>>>>>>> experienced.
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
>>>>>>>>>> <groups@xxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, OK, my bad. You see my previous comment was not intended
>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> taken so seriously.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have very different perspective than you and others on the
>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>> since C++ compiler is my everyday bread and butter so I have
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> different expectations and very different opinion than
>>>>>>>>>> majority.
>>>>>>>>>>> If I wrote so on some "hard core C geek" forum, I would be
>>>>>>>>>> understood better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently 2008 "express" version is less restrictive
>>>>>>>>>>> compared to previous 2005. I am not using 2008. Three years
>>>>>>>>>>> ago I
>>>>>>>>>> bought Professional Edition 2005 to find that I use
>>>>>>>>>>> it only for 64 bit compilations because it is slow for
>>>>>>>>>>> everyday
>>>>>>>>>> work, crashes a lot and code produced is not compatible with
>>>>>>>>>> 9x
>>>>>>>>>> windows.
>>>>>>>>>>> I use good old version 6 (from 1997 afair) because it is fast
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> compatible with all Windows versions. That old version 6.0 is
>>>>>>>>>>> something that Microsoft has done very well (but there was no
>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>> editions at that time).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>>>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Dennis Brown
>>>>>>>>>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:20 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>>>>>>>>>> sample file?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tomasz,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While, being a Mac guy, I am quick to vilify Microsoft.
>>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>> in this case you are being too harsh on them. They seem to
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> improved their free version for 2008 and with some more
>>>>>>>>>> experimentation, I was able to get the free version to compile
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> ADK Sample project and produce the sample.dll. Then I
>>>>>>>>>> modified
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> functions.cpp slightly and made another sample.dll that
>>>>>>>>>> functioned
>>>>>>>>>> properly with AFL calls.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is what I did to make it work:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I reinstalled the ADK from scratch to get rid of my
>>>>>>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>>>>> experiments.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. I double clicked the Sample.dsp file which launched
>>>>>>>>>>> Visual
>>>>>>>>>> C++ 2008 Express Edition
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. A dialog box came up requesting to convert the project
>>>>>>>>>> format to an updated version --I clicked Yes. This was the
>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>> step.
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. I did a "Build Solution" from the Build menu.
>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The Sample.dll was generated error free and placed in
>>>>>>>>>> the "Debug" folder.
>>>>>>>>>>> 6. I moved the Sample.dll into the Plugins folder and
>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>> up AmiBroker. I added a plot calling ExampleEMA. Success.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a humorous side to this story also...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I modified the ExampleEMA just to make sure that it was my
>>>>>>>>>> changes that I was seeing and not something else, since the
>>>>>>>>>> ExampleEMA was a prebuilt function. I called it myExampleEMA,
>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>> changed the function to return a constant. It worked half
>>>>>>>>>> way????
>>>>>>>>>> The name changed, but it returned the exact same moving
>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>> result as before.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I tried all kinds of changes to that function which seemed to
>>>>>>>>>> have no effect. I finally commented practically everything
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the function and it still returned a beautiful moving average.
>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>> mind was going in circles tying to figure out how my changes
>>>>>>>>>> could be
>>>>>>>>>> ignored. It truly seemed impossible. It is funny that when
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> don't know what you are doing and in a new situation, the mind
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> open to the wildest speculations to explain what is happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eventually, I commented out the other two functions:
>>>>>>>>>>> exampleMACD
>>>>>>>>>> and ExampleMA. Finally I got a compile error message. It
>>>>>>>>>> turns
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> that there is a typo in the function table. Both ExampleEMA
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> ExampleMA point to VExampleMA code. Since the file was last
>>>>>>>>>> modified
>>>>>>>>>> in 2001, it must have been there for 7 years and nobody
>>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>> now --or at least did not bother tell AmiBroker about it. It
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> lurking for all those years just waiting for a novice like
>>>>>>>>>> me to
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> tricked into thinking the laws of programming physics were
>>>>>>>>>> suddenly
>>>>>>>>>> altered. LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I will proceed to try and make my real dll work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See also the video:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/video/devcpp.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>>>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>>>>>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:19 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>>>>>>>>>> sample file?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Visual C++ 2008 EXPRESS edition (FREE) is severely limited
>>>>>>>>>> and does NOT support creating of DLLs at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> That's why you get error when compiling it with Express
>>>>>>>>>> edition.
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft never gives useful things for free. Express
>>>>>>>>>> editions are toys only.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To create DLLs you need either Standard or Professional
>>>>>>>>>> edition, or free Borland compiler or free GCC( GNU CC)/MinGW
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
>>>>>>>>>>> Sample project files for free Dec-C++ are included in the
>>>>>>>>>>> ADK.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>>>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Dennis Brown
>>>>>>>>>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>>>>>>>>>> sample file?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, That is exactly what my plan was and what I was
>>>>>>>>>> attempting to do. However, the example in the ADK would not
>>>>>>>>>> compile
>>>>>>>>>> error free with Visual C++ 2008 Express as I explained.
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it
>>>>>>>>>> would with the full version, but I explained that issue in my
>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>> post to Mike.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Paul Ho wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should start off by compiling the examples contained
>>>>>>>>>> in the ADK. and increment things slowly so you know what could
>>>>>>>>>> possibly cause the problem
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2008 1:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
>>>>>>>>>> sample file?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I took the challenge from Tomasz that anyone who is
>>>>>>>>>> willing to learn,
>>>>>>>>>>> can extend AFL to do anything. My chosen task is to
>>>>>>>>>> restore the
>>>>>>>>>>> scroll position of the Parameters Window after a "Reset
>>>>>>>>>> all" button
>>>>>>>>>>> click --and yes, it has an important use.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tomasz informed me that I would need to write a DLL to
>>>>>>>>>> make this
>>>>>>>>>>> possible. There may be other ways, but I will try it
>>>>>>>>>> this way.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First I have to say that I do not know C++ (other than
>>>>>>>>>> AFL has a
>>>>>>>>>>> similar syntax). Next I am not very familiar with
>>>>>>>>>> anything Windows (I
>>>>>>>>>>> am a Mac guy). So if I can do this (with a little help
>>>>>>>>>> from my AB
>>>>>>>>>>> friends) Tomasz will be vindicated in his statements.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I determined that all I need is to make an extremely
>>>>>>>>>> simple DLL. It
>>>>>>>>>>> will create the following new AFL function:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> oldScrollPosition = GetSetWindowScroll
>>>>>>>>>> (newScrollPosition);
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It will simply return the current scroll position of
>>>>>>>>>> the active
>>>>>>>>>>> foreground window and then set the scroll position to
>>>>>>>>>> the supplied
>>>>>>>>>>> parameter. It should only be about 10 lines of C++
>>>>>>>>>>> code.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have found the Windows calls that will get the handle
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> foreground window, and (with a pointer from Tomasz)
>>>>>>>>>> calls to get and
>>>>>>>>>>> set the scroll thumb position on a standard window.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Everything else I need to do I can handle with AutoIt
>>>>>>>>>> or AFL.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have installed the free ADK and installed the free
>>>>>>>>>> Visual C++ 2008
>>>>>>>>>>> Express program, and started to try to write this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Initially I tried just Building the Sample DLL in the
>>>>>>>>>> ADK. That
>>>>>>>>>>> mostly works, but gives me errors on the Plugin.cpp:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> error C2491: on 5 critical lines for : Definition of
>>>>>>>>>> dllimport
>>>>>>>>>>> function not allowed
>>>>>>>>>>> these are the PLUGINAPI statements for Release, Init,
>>>>>>>>>>> GetFunnctionTable, SetSiteInterface, and GetPluginInfo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Somehow, I think I really need these lines to compile
>>>>>>>>>> for any AB DLL
>>>>>>>>>>> to work...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried a bunch of things, and I can make it give
>>>>>>>>>> me more errors,
>>>>>>>>>>> but unfortunately no less errors. So I think I need
>>>>>>>>>> some hints or
>>>>>>>>>>> more help to get started.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has an answer, or a simple
>>>>>>>>>> DLL sample
>>>>>>>>>>> project file that builds error free on Visual C++ 2008
>>>>>>>>>> Express that
>>>>>>>>>>> you could email me to get me started on the right track
>>>>>>>>>> with this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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