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> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tomasz Janeczko
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:29 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Visual C++ 2008 Express simple 
> DLL sample file?
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> The parameter window does not contain a scrollbar because it 
> is  a parent
> of actual parameter list window. Therefore to get a handle of actual
> window that contains the scrollbar you need to traverse children list
> of parameter window, or better (easier), get the child 
> control with appropriate ID.
> The ID of actual list is 88. 
> So you would need to call
> HWND hActualList = GetDlgItem( h_ParamWindow, 88 );
> 
> if( hActualList )
> {
>  nScrollPos = GetScrollPos( hActualList, SB_VERT );
> 
> ....
> 
> SetScrollPos( hActualList, SB_VERT, nPos, TRUE );
> }
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Visual C++ 2008 Express simple 
> DLL sample file?
> 
> 
> > Tomasz,
> > 
> > I am reporting back on my success as far as it goes on this 
> challenge,  
> > and request another hint.  I have succeeded in learning how 
> to write a  
> > C++ DLL function with freely available programs and 
> documentation.   
> > The DLL can get the scroll position of the top child window of the  
> > foreground window and return the result to AFL.  I have 
> also written a  
> > function that will set the scroll position to a value 
> specified from  
> > AFL and return the old position as I originally set out to 
> do.  This  
> > should give me the ability to get or set the scroll 
> position on any  
> > AmiBroker program window that is active and has a vertical scroll  
> > bar.  For instance, with this DLL, I can now get and set 
> the scroll  
> > position on the Formula Editor Window just as expected.  
> However, the  
> > Parameters Window returns an error that it contains no 
> scroll bar even  
> > though it is visible on the screen, so I have not succeeded 
> yet in the  
> > original challenge.
> > 
> > Since you wrote the code that created the (I am assuming) 
> child window  
> > with the scrollbar in the Parameters Window, I have to ask you the  
> > next question.  Is there a key concept that I am missing 
> regarding how  
> > to get the handle to the Parameters Window child 
> control/window with  
> > the scroll bar?
> > 
> > I have looked everywhere I know to look for the answer, but 
> have come  
> > up blank.  The only possibility I can think of is you wrote 
> this child  
> > window in a custom way that does not support the functions 
> I used to  
> > get or set the scroll.  The class string does have a 
> strange looking  
> > name for this window.
> > 
> > Here is the Function.cpp code segment I wrote that gets the scroll  
> > position (or the error code):
> > 
> > // GetWindowScroll( )
> > // This function returns the vertical scroll position
> > // of the top window of the foreground (active) window
> > // Returns zero if not successful
> > // Temp Debug: Returns the error code if not successful
> > 
> > AmiVar VGetWindowScroll( int NumArgs, AmiVar *ArgsTable )
> > {
> >     AmiVar OldScroll;
> > OldScroll.type = VAR_FLOAT;
> > 
> > HWND foreWindow = GetForegroundWindow();
> > HWND topWindow = GetTopWindow(foreWindow);
> > 
> > int OVWScroll = GetScrollPos( topWindow, SB_VERT );
> > OldScroll.val = OVWScroll;
> > if(OVWScroll==0){DWORD dw = GetLastError(); OldScroll.val = 
> dw;} ;//  
> > Debug code
> > 
> >     return OldScroll;
> > }
> > 
> > If there is something that you do not want to reveal 
> publicly on the  
> > forum, please PM me.  Otherwise, please another hint.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Dennis
> > 
> > On Apr 27, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >> Dan,
> >>
> >> LOL --the blind leading the blind.  I wanted to relate my 
> experiences
> >> in attempting this "Impossible for my level of experience 
> and tools"
> >> solution to my problem to encourage others that it can be done.  I
> >> also knew I would need a little help from a knowledgeable 
> person like
> >> TJ to point me in the right direction.   After all, it would be
> >> foolish to attempt to do something if there was no 
> reasonable solution
> >> at all, and he would know.  I searched on the internet to 
> fill in more
> >> details.  We don't always have to have the solutions 
> handed to us on a
> >> silver platter --as nice as that is.  I also did not believe that I
> >> should have to spend a long time with books, manuals, or buy tools
> >> just to make a 10 line program that I needed now.  Besides I learn
> >> better by discovering things than reading about them in books.  The
> >> little light bulbs go on quite often when I have to work for the
> >> understanding.
> >>
> >> Since I don't know C++ , every line I write has errors.  I just try
> >> different possibilities and recompile until I hit on a syntax that
> >> works.  It usually takes 3-5 attempts to get each line to 
> work, then I
> >> go to the next line.  If I don't get the result I expect, I try
> >> different experiments, and by the process of elimination I 
> learn what
> >> is going on.  If I get really stuck, I will ask for help again.
> >> Trial and error engineering!
> >>
> >> I still don't have the solution I want working.  I wrote 
> the DLL as I
> >> had envisioned it, and it does work as far as I can tell.  
> However, I
> >> believe I am missing a key concept about which window in the
> >> "Parameters Window" contains the scroll bar since I get an error
> >> message that the foreground window has no scroll bars.  I am now
> >> guessing that the tabbed window structure is such that there is a
> >> child window overlaid on the main Parameters window that has the
> >> scroll bar.  Now I have to figure out how to get its 
> handle.  Notice
> >> all those Windows type concepts I am throwing around after 
> only a day
> >> of poking at the problem --LOL.
> >>
> >> During some of my internet searches, I did come across 
> some references
> >> to VB that would lead me to think that I might be able to 
> solve this
> >> problem with it also.  However, I know no more about VB than I do
> >> about C++, so I might as well do it at the lowest level 
> for the simple
> >> problem that it is.  At least C++ and AFL look enough 
> alike that I can
> >> guess at the syntax of C++.
> >>
> >> Getting frustrated and giving up is something I got over 
> many decades
> >> ago after realizing that the only way to fail is to give 
> up, and the
> >> way to succeed is to never give up.  Once you determine 
> that you will
> >> succeed no matter what it takes, the setbacks are just part of
> >> learning about the solution.  It does irk me though when I am given
> >> wrong information that takes me far in the wrong direction 
> and wastes
> >> a lot of time.
> >>
> >> As far as the typo in the example goes, I don't think TJ 
> needs to say
> >> anything about it on the board.  If nobody noticed it for 
> 7 years, it
> >> is not critical to get fixed on a moments notice.  I would not have
> >> mentioned it publicly except that it made a good story.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2008, at 9:30 AM, ab319320 wrote:
> >>> Dennis good work.  There are two possibilities for the 
> error in the
> >>> example.  I have to wonder if Tomasz even picked up on 
> the error you
> >>> mentioned as he was caught up in compiler talk and did 
> not thank you
> >>> and say that the error would be fixed.  That aside Tomasz 
> has done a
> >>> terrific job on MY AMI.
> >>>
> >>> But, errors in examples as in a 21 day vc++ book 
> frustrated me to the
> >>> point that my vc++6.0 pro ed just sets on the shelf.  We all have
> >>> different levels of tolerance and Dennis yours excels.
> >>>
> >>> I discovered MS's Express series just a month ago and 
> typed my 1981
> >>> basic program into vbasic 2008 express.  I had over a 
> hundred error
> >>> msgs but it was easy to work through.  I think the vb is 
> easier than
> >>> the vc express because of the error window (which is more like
> >>> vc6.0).  MS has provided a powerful on-line help enter-face.  Vb
> >>> express, I think, allows creation of a dll.
> >>>
> >>> Dennis I hope that you will post a "How To dll"  in the 
> Files section
> >>> which is user friendly.  It appears you may have that ability.
> >>> Sometimes experienced people write over the heads of less  
> >>> experienced.
> >>> Dan
> >>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis,
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, OK, my bad. You see my previous comment was not 
> intended to be
> >>> taken so seriously.
> >>>> I have very different perspective than you and others on the list
> >>>> since C++ compiler is my everyday bread and butter so I have very
> >>> different expectations and very different opinion than majority.
> >>>> If I wrote so on some "hard core C geek" forum, I would be
> >>> understood better.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently 2008 "express" version is less restrictive
> >>>> compared to previous 2005. I am not using 2008. Three years ago I
> >>> bought Professional Edition 2005 to find that I use
> >>>> it only for 64 bit compilations because it is slow for everyday
> >>> work, crashes a lot and code produced is not compatible with 9x
> >>> windows.
> >>>> I use good old version 6 (from 1997 afair) because it is fast and
> >>> compatible with all Windows versions. That old version 6.0 is
> >>>> something that Microsoft has done very well (but there 
> was no free
> >>> editions at that time).
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>> amibroker.com
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: Dennis Brown
> >>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:20 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
> >>> sample file?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tomasz,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> While, being a Mac guy, I am quick to vilify Microsoft.  However,
> >>> in this case you are being too harsh on them.  They seem to have
> >>> improved their free version for 2008 and with some more
> >>> experimentation, I was able to get the free version to compile the
> >>> ADK Sample project and produce the sample.dll.  Then I 
> modified the
> >>> functions.cpp slightly and made another sample.dll that functioned
> >>> properly with AFL calls.
> >>>> Here is what I did to make it work:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.   I reinstalled the ADK from scratch to get rid of my previous
> >>> experiments.
> >>>> 2.   I double clicked the Sample.dsp file which launched Visual
> >>> C++ 2008 Express Edition
> >>>> 3.   A dialog box came up requesting to convert the project
> >>> format to an updated version --I clicked Yes.  This was 
> the key step.
> >>>> 4.   I did a "Build Solution" from the Build menu.
> >>>> 5.   The Sample.dll was generated error free and placed in
> >>> the "Debug" folder.
> >>>> 6.   I moved the Sample.dll into the Plugins folder and started
> >>> up AmiBroker.  I added a plot calling ExampleEMA.  Success.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a humorous side to this story also...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I modified the ExampleEMA just to make sure that it was my
> >>> changes that I was seeing and not something else, since the
> >>> ExampleEMA was a prebuilt function.  I called it 
> myExampleEMA, and I
> >>> changed the function to return a constant.  It worked half way????
> >>> The name changed, but it returned the exact same moving average
> >>> result as before.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I tried all kinds of changes to that function which seemed to
> >>> have no effect.  I finally commented practically everything out in
> >>> the function and it still returned a beautiful moving average.  My
> >>> mind was going in circles tying to figure out how my 
> changes could be
> >>> ignored.  It truly seemed impossible.  It is funny that when you
> >>> don't know what you are doing and in a new situation, the mind is
> >>> open to the wildest speculations to explain what is happening.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Eventually, I commented out the other two functions: exampleMACD
> >>> and ExampleMA.  Finally I got a compile error message.  
> It turns out
> >>> that there is a typo in the function table.  Both ExampleEMA and
> >>> ExampleMA point to VExampleMA code.  Since the file was 
> last modified
> >>> in 2001, it must have been there for 7 years and nobody 
> noticed until
> >>> now --or at least did not bother tell AmiBroker about it.   It was
> >>> lurking for all those years just waiting for a novice 
> like me to get
> >>> tricked into thinking the laws of programming physics 
> were suddenly
> >>> altered.  LOL
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I will proceed to try and make my real dll work.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Dennis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   See also the video:
> >>>>   http://www.amibroker.com/video/devcpp.html
> >>>>
> >>>>   Best regards,
> >>>>   Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>   amibroker.com
> >>>>     ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>     From: Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>     To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>     Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:19 PM
> >>>>     Subject: Re: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
> >>> sample file?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>     Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>     Visual C++ 2008 EXPRESS edition (FREE) is severely limited
> >>> and does NOT support creating of DLLs at all.
> >>>>     That's why you get error when compiling it with Express
> >>> edition.
> >>>>     Microsoft never gives useful things for free. Express
> >>> editions are toys only.
> >>>>
> >>>>     To create DLLs you need either Standard or Professional
> >>> edition, or free Borland compiler or free GCC( GNU CC)/MinGW
> >>>>     http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
> >>>>     Sample project files for free Dec-C++ are included 
> in the ADK.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Best regards,
> >>>>     Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>     amibroker.com
> >>>>       ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>       From: Dennis Brown
> >>>>       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>       Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:18 PM
> >>>>       Subject: Re: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
> >>> sample file?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>       Paul, That is exactly what my plan was and what I was
> >>> attempting to do.  However, the example in the ADK would 
> not compile
> >>> error free with Visual C++ 2008 Express as I explained.  
> Perhaps it
> >>> would with the full version, but I explained that issue in my last
> >>> post to Mike.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>       BR,
> >>>>       Dennis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>       On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Paul Ho wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>         You should start off by compiling the examples contained
> >>> in the ADK. and increment things slowly so you know what could
> >>> possibly cause the problem
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>           From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
> >>>>           Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2008 1:44 PM
> >>>>           To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>           Subject: [amibroker] Visual C++ 2008 Express simple DLL
> >>> sample file?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>           I took the challenge from Tomasz that anyone who is
> >>> willing to learn,
> >>>>           can extend AFL to do anything. My chosen task is to
> >>> restore the
> >>>>           scroll position of the Parameters Window after a "Reset
> >>> all" button
> >>>>           click --and yes, it has an important use.
> >>>>
> >>>>           Tomasz informed me that I would need to write a DLL to
> >>> make this
> >>>>           possible. There may be other ways, but I will try it
> >>> this way.
> >>>>
> >>>>           First I have to say that I do not know C++ (other than
> >>> AFL has a
> >>>>           similar syntax). Next I am not very familiar with
> >>> anything Windows (I
> >>>>           am a Mac guy). So if I can do this (with a little help
> >>> from my AB
> >>>>           friends) Tomasz will be vindicated in his statements.
> >>>>
> >>>>           I determined that all I need is to make an extremely
> >>> simple DLL. It
> >>>>           will create the following new AFL function:
> >>>>
> >>>>           oldScrollPosition = GetSetWindowScroll
> >>> (newScrollPosition);
> >>>>
> >>>>           It will simply return the current scroll position of
> >>> the active
> >>>>           foreground window and then set the scroll position to
> >>> the supplied
> >>>>           parameter. It should only be about 10 lines of 
> C++ code.
> >>>>
> >>>>           I have found the Windows calls that will get the handle
> >>> of the
> >>>>           foreground window, and (with a pointer from Tomasz)
> >>> calls to get and
> >>>>           set the scroll thumb position on a standard window.
> >>>>
> >>>>           Everything else I need to do I can handle with AutoIt
> >>> or AFL.
> >>>>
> >>>>           I have installed the free ADK and installed the free
> >>> Visual C++ 2008
> >>>>           Express program, and started to try to write this.
> >>>>
> >>>>           Initially I tried just Building the Sample DLL in the
> >>> ADK. That
> >>>>           mostly works, but gives me errors on the Plugin.cpp:
> >>>>
> >>>>           error C2491: on 5 critical lines for : Definition of
> >>> dllimport
> >>>>           function not allowed
> >>>>           these are the PLUGINAPI statements for Release, Init,
> >>>>           GetFunnctionTable, SetSiteInterface, and GetPluginInfo.
> >>>>
> >>>>           Somehow, I think I really need these lines to compile
> >>> for any AB DLL
> >>>>           to work...
> >>>>
> >>>>           I have tried a bunch of things, and I can make it give
> >>> me more errors,
> >>>>           but unfortunately no less errors. So I think I need
> >>> some hints or
> >>>>           more help to get started.
> >>>>
> >>>>           I was wondering if anyone has an answer, or a simple
> >>> DLL sample
> >>>>           project file that builds error free on Visual C++ 2008
> >>> Express that
> >>>>           you could email me to get me started on the right track
> >>> with this?
> >>>>
> >>>>           Thanks,
> >>>>           Dennis
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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