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[amibroker] Re: Eliminating Phantom Positions in CBT



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Tomasz, did you try the code below. Beside couple of spelling error 
which I fixed, I get other error messages. When I fix them I don't 
get the intended results. The buy can sell conditions can be any 
generic conditions such as 

Buy = Close>0;
Sell =  Close > Ref(Close, -1);

Regards

Kam
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> Seems like one closing brace was missing
> 
> ApplyStop( stopTypeNBar, stopModeBars, 15 ); // exit after 15 days 
> 
> SetBacktestMode( backtestRegularRaw ); 
> SetCustomBacktestProc(""); 
> 
> MaxBuys = 3; 
> if( Status("action") == actionPortfolio ) 
> { 
>    bo = GetBacktesterObject(); 
> 
>    bo.PreProcess(); 
>    for( i = 0; i < BarCount; i++ ) 
>    { 
>      cntBuys = 0; 
> 
>      // look at new signals AND Exclude signals if they exceed  
maxBuys 
>        for( sig = bo.GetFirstSignal(i); sig; sig = bo.GetNextSignal
(i) ) 
>      { 
>        // this handles limiting of number of order per day 
>        CanEnter = False; 
>        if( sig.IsEntry() AND CntBus <= MaxBuys ) 
>        { 
>             if( ! bo.FindOpenPos( sig.Symbol ) ) 
>             {   
>                CanEnter = True; 
>                CntBuys++; 
>             } 
>        } 
> 
>        // this handles allowing exits only if position is at least 
2 bars old 
>        CanExit = False; 
>        if( sig.IsExit() ) 
>        { 
>            if( pos = FindOpenPos( sig.Symbol ) ) 
>            { 
>                CanExit = pos.BarsInTrade > 2; 
>            } 
>        } 
> 
>        // if can not enter/exit - mark price = -1 - means ignore 
signal 
>       if( ! CanEnter AND ! CanExit ) sig.Price = -1; 
>     } 
>     bo.ProcessTradeSignals( i ); 
>   } 
>   bo.PostProcess(); 
> }
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tipequity" <l3456@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:55 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Eliminating Phantom Positions in CBT
> 
> 
> > Thanks Tomasz for helping, I will give it try. More than that 
thanks 
> > for explaining the code with comments. Learning AB is 
significantly 
> > more import to me than solving the problem at hand.
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> The first step to success is to describe the goal, not the step 
you 
> > are locked on.
> >> This is I belive the very first time when you actually 
described  
> > the goal.
> >> 
> >> Once this is establish the rest is easy.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ApplyStop( stopTypeNBar, stopModeBars, 15 ); // exit after 15 
days 
> >> 
> >> SetBacktestMode( backtestRegularRaw ); 
> >> SetCustomBacktestProc(""); 
> >> 
> >> Buy = ...
> >> Sell = ...
> >> 
> >> MaxBuys = 3; 
> >> if( Status("action") == actionPortfolio ) 
> >> { 
> >>    bo = GetBacktesterObject(); 
> >> 
> >>    bo.PreProcess(); 
> >>    for( i = 0; i < BarCount; i++ ) 
> >>    { 
> >>      cntBuys = 0; 
> >> 
> >>   // look at new signals AND Exclude signals if they exceed  
> > maxBuys 
> >>   for( sig = bo.GetFirstSignal(i); sig; sig = bo.GetNextSignal
(i) ) 
> >>   { 
> >>       // this handles limiting of number of order per day 
> >>       CanEnter = False; 
> >>       if( sig.IsEntry() AND CntBus <= MaxBuys ) 
> >>       { 
> >>             if( ! bo.FindOpenPos( sig.Symbol ) ) 
> >>             {   
> >>                CanEnter = True; 
> >>                CntBuys++; 
> >>             } 
> >>       } 
> >> 
> >>       // this handles allowing exits only if position is at 
least 2 
> > bars old 
> >>       CanExit = False; 
> >>       if( sig.IsExit() ) 
> >>       { 
> >>            if( pos = FindOpenPos( sig.Symbol ) ) 
> >>            { 
> >>                CanExit = pos.BarsInTrade > 2; 
> >>            } 
> >>       } 
> >> 
> >>       // if can not enter/exit - mark price = -1 - means ignore 
> > signal 
> >>       if( ! CanEnter AND ! CanExit ) sig.Price = -1; 
> >>        
> >>       bo.ProcessTradeSignals( i ); 
> >>   } 
> >>    
> >>   bo.PostProcess(); 
> >> }
> >> 
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "tipequity" <l3456@>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:26 AM
> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Eliminating Phantom Positions in CBT
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Tomasz, GP
> >> > 
> >> > I have no desire to use low level. I am perfectly happy to use 
> > the 
> >> > regular backtester. I am trying to port my trading system to 
AB. 
> > What 
> >> > I need to achieve is as follows which I could not do in 
regular 
> >> > backtester (assuming a long only EOD system). 
> >> > 
> >> > 1. limit the number buys to 4 per day(bar)
> >> > 2. Positions are sold if we have held them for at least 2 bars 
> > from 
> >> > the date of entry (not from the date of last buy signal), if 
we 
> > have 
> >> > sell signal.
> >> > 3. Force sell positions after 15 days from the date of entry 
(not 
> >> > from the date of last buy signal).
> >> > 
> >> > Now I have done this very easily in AIQ & WealthLab. I can 
drop 
> > AB 
> >> > and go back to those other software packages. AIQ does not 
have 
> > the 
> >> > openness of AB and WL is too slow. I have been struggling with 
> > the 
> >> > above for the last three month. I've asked the tech support 
and 
> >> > people on this board to no avail.
> >> > 
> >> > Below is code kindly provided by Edward Pottasch and modified 
by 
> > me 
> >> > to limit the number position to 4. However, then I face the 
> > problem 
> >> > that I have documented previously. I think I see why it 
produces 
> > the 
> >> > problem. Because when the max buys per day limit is met it 
sets 
> > the 
> >> > position size to zero and it does not nullify the buy signal. 
So 
> > the 
> >> > system keeps buy signal as a buy with zero value.
> >> > 
> >> > I sometimes I think Tomasz enjoys to see new users suffer(LOL, 
> > TIC).
> >> > 
> >> > SetBacktestMode( backtestRegularRaw ); 
> >> > SetCustomBacktestProc(""); 
> >> > MaxBuys = 3;
> >> > if( Status("action") == actionPortfolio )
> >> > { 
> >> >   bo = GetBacktesterObject(); 
> >> >   bo.PreProcess(); 
> >> >   for( i = 0; i < BarCount; i++ ) 
> >> >  { 
> >> > cntBuys = 0; 
> >> > 
> >> > // look at new signals AND Exclude signals if they exceed 
> >> > maxBuys 
> >> > for( sig = bo.GetFirstSignal(i); sig; sig = 
> >> > bo.GetNextSignal(i) )
> >> > { 
> >> > OpenPos = bo.FindOpenPos( sig.Symbol );
> >> > // check for entry signal and long signal 
> >> >         if( sig.IsEntry() ) 
> >> > { 
> >> > if( cntBuys > MaxBuys )
> >> > {   
> >> >               sig.PosSize = 0; 
> >> >           } 
> >> >            else if( IsNull(OpenPos))
> >> > { 
> >> >                cntBuys = cntBuys + 1; 
> >> > } 
> >> >      } 
> >> > 
> >> >    } 
> >> >    bo.ProcessTradeSignals( i ); 
> >> >   } 
> >> >   bo.PostProcess(); 
> >> > }
> >> > 
> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Exactly. In low-level mode AmiBroker does NOT enter/exit ANY 
> > trades
> >> >> unless you tell it to do so by calling EnterTrade/ExitTrade.
> >> >> Entire signal processing is upto the user. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Beginners should rather avoid using custom backtester esp. 
low-
> >> > level mode unless
> >> >> they are programmers and know exactly what they are doing.
> >> >> Even then it is advised to use _TRACE command to log all your
> >> >> conditions and function calls into DebugView window.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Custom backtester low-level is for *advanced* programmers only
> >> >> who have experience in debugging their own formulas.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> >> amibroker.com
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "gp_sydney" <gp.investment@>
> >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:22 PM
> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Eliminating Phantom Positions in CBT
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > If you're using the low-level CBT, then you're entering and 
> >> > exiting
> >> >> > trades yourself, so I don't see how there can be "phantom" 
> > trades 
> >> > that
> >> >> > you don't know about.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Maybe the issue is with your Buy and Sell arrays. If you 
get a 
> > buy
> >> >> > signal on one bar but don't take it, it won't still show up 
as 
> > a
> >> >> > signal on the next bar unless you specifically do something 
to 
> >> > make it
> >> >> > so. So if you're only using the Signal object to choose 
buys, 
> > any 
> >> > you
> >> >> > ignore at one bar won't still be there at the next bar 
unless 
> > the 
> >> > Buy
> >> >> > array happens to have True values at both bars.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Or are you perhaps removing redundant signals with ExRem?
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > GP
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rdavenportca" 
> > <davenport.r@> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am doing portfolio backtesting on a system that has a 
> > maximum 
> >> > number 
> >> >> >> of open positions set to 30.  I use the Custom Backtester 
> > Signal 
> >> > Object 
> >> >> >> (low level) to only take certain trades on a given day 
(Day 
> > 1).  
> >> > On 
> >> >> >> that day there may have been other valid trades that I did 
> > not 
> >> > take or 
> >> >> >> were not taken because I already had my 30 positions full.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> The problem I have is that a symbol that was a potential 
> > trade 
> >> > on Day 1 
> >> >> >> may setup to be a valid trade on Day 2, but I cannot enter 
it 
> > on 
> >> > Day 2 
> >> >> >> because Amibroker "thinks" I'm in the trade.  On the 
symbols 
> > for 
> >> > trades 
> >> >> >> I did not take, I am blocked from taking any future trade 
in 
> >> > that 
> >> >> >> symbol until the exit has triggered.  Remember that I'm 
not 
> >> > actual in a 
> >> >> >> position on this symbol, thus it is a "phantom" position.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> My guess is that there is a hanging exit order still in 
the 
> >> > system for 
> >> >> >> these symbols causing the program to ignore new buys.  
I've 
> >> > tried 
> >> >> >> setting the sig.Price = -1 and everything else I can think 
of 
> > to 
> >> > no 
> >> >> >> avail.  Any ideas?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
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