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It's NOT about the DELAY, millisecond or otherwise in RT data ...
It's about the MISSING data in your approach ...
In life to a large degree you are what you eat ... For trading
systems it's really no different ... what they eat is data ... You
can have your system eat the carbs i.e. little snapshots of where the
market is at this moment and be fat, dumb and happy while hoping for
the best or you can give it what it most likely needs i.e. a balanced
diet of all there is to know ...
Personally when I have real dollars on the line I want all the
information I can get from the most reliable source(s) i can get it
from. It's a minor cost of doing business much like having a PC and
a development / trading platform is ...
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Hetal Thakkar" <hetal333@xxx>
wrote:
>
> Hello Dingo,
>
> In continuation of my previos post.
> I would like to add one more thing
> AMibroker Rt uses either 3rd plugins or amiquote for so called RT
> data.
>
> And as everyone knows Amiquote gets the so called yahoo current data
> and eod data. Yes i know Yahoo is not reliabble but then you just
> cant ignore yahoo. If it was then Tomaz would have not made
Amiquote.
> What i have did is made it possible to get the same data which
> amiquote gets with yahoo current function and fills in the single
bar
> With my idea you can expand that current single bar in any time
frame
> higher than 1 minute ( This limit is because yahoo doesnt have
> seconds in its date/time may that may be the reason).
> If this is wrong what i did then what to tell for all those who
uses
> Amiquotes yahoo current function.
>
> Even the Ib plugin users must not be getting exactly rt data
without
> any millisecond delay. Transmission & conversion loss is always
> possible.
>
> Actually speaking as i have told earlier that Rt data is just not
> exactly rt data it is snapshots and that is for amiquote is made to
> get yahoo current.
>
> Hope it is now more clear to all.
>
> No harm intended to anyone except to those suckers who looted
Indian
> traders & investors.
>
> People find difficult to accept the change
> Hetal
> (Indian Brain at Work)
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Hetal Thakkar" <hetal333@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well friends,
> >
> > Let me ask you where did i say that the document which is
uploaded
> in
> > the file section is any rt data product which i intend to sell it
> to
> > anybody.
> > In fact this is my brian child using amiquote so there is no
> question
> > of me selling any thing and making any heck out of it.
> >
> > ANd neither i have used any jscript to it . I have used amiquote
> and
> > the aqd.format which i have changed was to make it possible to
get
> Rt
> > data directly to amiroker. ANd the original js file is a part of
> > amibroker. I just discoverd to make it possible to get the so
> called
> > rt data to ami wihout paying any dime to these data vendors.
> >
> > I have just applied a tweak to the original aqd.format . This i
> will
> > proudly call an "Indian brain at work". Thanks to Tomaz for such
a
> > wonderful product.
> >
> > Actually this is the procedure used by the so called rt data
> vendors
> > by using the js script.
> >
> > My intention was very clear and infact i was asking myself what
is
> > not possible with ami and this discovery lead me too what these
so
> > called rt data vendors sell.
> >
> > How can anyone call themselves rt data (VENDOR). Data is with
> yahoo
> > even a plain url can get u data of 200 symbols and in the format
u
> > want. That is what amiquote does.Then why we need to pay to these
> so
> > called data vendors just to get the data from yahoo and get it
> import
> > it to ami with a js file. Then this job is done by amiquote. So i
> > opened the aqd.format in my desire to find how it does and what
it
> > gets from yahoo.
> >
> > If you want data for FREE and dont want to tax your pc to run too
> > many application togather then the best route is to use AMIQUOTE.
> >
> > My this brian child product was a challenge to these so called rt
> > data vendors esp here in INDIA. Again i repeat i believe in
> > opensource and this product is completly FREE without any strings
> > attached though with some drawbacks as pointed by Prashanth.
> >
> > I Hope with this our belevoed Dingo would be clear of any doubts
> > of me posting any doc to sell my product.
> >
> > Actually i would take this oppurtunity to request MR. Tomaz to
look
> > into this my idea and suggest me any improvents if possible
within
> > your framework to make amibroker take time shift while creating a
> new
> > database to allow time shift of hours with minutes.
> > and to officially include .format file for this purpose so one
need
> > not have to modify the aqd.format file.
> >
> >
> > -hetal
> > (Indian Brain at Work)
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Prashanth" <prash454.ta@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, what they have done is write a small script which shall
get
> > the Quotes from Yahoo and save it on local HDD. Then using Java
> > Scripting, the same is imported into AmiBroker. The script when
> > running, pings Yahoo and fetches the At the moment quotes for the
> > scrips specified which is then appended into the Text file and
> using
> > JS imported into AmiBroker.
> > >
> > > The best part is that they call themselves as RT Data
> Providers ;).
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Prashanth
> > >
> > > PS: As they say, There's a sucker born every minute...and two
to
> > take 'em." :)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: dingo
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] historical data charts displaying
> > properly - problem with current day data
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What the heck are they selling?
> > >
> > > d
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --
> > --------
> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Prashanth
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:33 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] historical data charts displaying
> > properly - problem with current day data
> > >
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > I dont use it, you wont beleive it, but I know several guys
> who
> > are making a living selling such stuff :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Prashanth
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: dingo
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:22 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] historical data charts
displaying
> > properly - problem with current day data
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, good luck trading using that kind of data, duude...
> > >
> > > d
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --
> > ----
> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Prashanth
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:50 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] historical data charts
> displaying
> > properly - problem with current day data
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Dingo,
> > >
> > > There was a document (mail sent on 15-04-2007 by Hetal
> > Thakkar) sent across and also much discussion about the same. I
> have
> > tried it out and it does work though with a couple of drawbacks.
> > >
> > > The main thing is that if you ping Yahoo Server say
every
> > One minute, it gives you a fresh quote. Using this facility, its
> > possible to use AmiQuote to get Intra-day data from Yahoo.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Prashanth
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: dingo
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:15 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] historical data charts
> > displaying properly - problem with current day data
> > >
> > >
> > > Who told you that you can get intra-day data from
Yahoo
> > via Amiquote?
> > >
> > > d
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > tummalaajaybabu
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:41 PM
> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] historical data charts
> displaying
> > > > properly - problem with current day data
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With reference to previous mail i'm getting
historial
> > data correctly.
> > > > but the problem is current day data with 5 mt.
> interval
> > only.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> > > > <groups@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > The message is clear: "not enough data available.
3
> > data
> > > > bars needed"
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently you have created empty database and
you
> > just imported
> > > > > ONE day of data. To get a chart you need at least
> > THREE days.
> > > > > You need to download HISTORICAL data, as shown in
> the
> > video:
> > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/video/amiquote2.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > > amibroker.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "tummalaajaybabu" <tummalaajaybabu@>
> > > > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Download works but there are
> no
> > quotes added
> > > > problem
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Today i have downloaded data from yahoo finance
> > using amiquote.
> > > > > > Amiquote is working fine. The *.aqd file in
> > amiquote/download is
> > > > > > updating. But i'm unable to get the chart. It
is
> > displaying the
> > > > > > message not enough data available. 3 data bars
> > needed.
> > > > But the *.txt
> > > > > > file is containing only one line data. That
data
> > line alone only
> > > > > > updating for 5 min. interval.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In troubleshooting guide the following
solutions
> > are
> > > > present. But all
> > > > > > are correct in my verification.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # Go to C:\Program
> > Files\AmiBroker\AmiQuote\Download and
> > > > check if .AQH
> > > > > > files are there - Yes. it is there......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # Open them with Notepad and see if data are
> there -
> > yes, only one
> > > > > > data line will be there......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # Check if you have aqh.format file in the
> Formats
> > subdirectory of
> > > > > > AMiBroker - i have this format file in that
> > subfolder.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # Check its contents and eventually send me for
> > checking
> > > > - i'm posting
> > > > > > that data content.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # If you ever restored data directory from CD
ROM
> > check the
> > > > > > "read-only" flag of data files in AmiBroker
> > database.
> > > > They must not be
> > > > > > read-only. If they are you have to mark all
files
> > in the data
> > > > > > directory and all subfolders and UNMARK read
only
> > flag - i have
> > > > > > uncheck that read only.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the problem. If anyone know kindly help
> in
> > this
> > > > regard. How to
> > > > > > get data/chart correctly into
amiquote/amibroker.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanking you....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "^DJI","DOW JONES
> > > > > >
> > > > INDUSTR",13499.72,"6/6/2007","11:24am",-
> > 95.74,13590.66,13591.0
> > > > 7,13478.68,68031272
> > > > > > "AA","ALCOA
> > > > INC",40.01,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.58,40.40,N/A,39.98,1800500
> > > > > > "GE","GEN ELECTRIC
> > > > > > CO",37.27,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.13,37.30,N/A,37.19,8558933
> > > > > > "JNJ","JOHNSON AND
> > > > > > JOHNS",62.89,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.42,63.20,N/A,62.89,2152907
> > > > > > "MSFT","MICROSOFT
> > > > > > CP",30.35,"6/6/2007","11:09am",-
> > 0.23,30.37,30.53,30.25,12057660
> > > > > > "AXP","AMER EXPRESS
> > > > > > INC",64.12,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.67,64.67,N/A,64.07,1263400
> > > > > > "GM","GEN
> > > > MOTORS",29.93,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.21,30.14,30.27,N/A,2215679
> > > > > > "JPM","JP MORGAN CHASE
> > > > > > C",50.65,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.57,51.23,N/A,50.65,2498500
> > > > > > "PG","PROCTER GAMBLE
> > > > > > ",63.28,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.18,63.35,N/A,63.21,1868167
> > > > > > "BA","BOEING
> > > > > > CO",97.81,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 1.69,98.97,99.20,97.70,1124000
> > > > > > "HD","HOME DEPOT
> > > > > > INC",38.46,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.40,38.55,N/A,38.26,3097854
> > > > > > "KO","COCA COLA CO
> > > > > > THE",52.21,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.11,52.25,N/A,51.99,1148116
> > > > >
> > "SBC","SBC",0.00,"N/A","11:45am",N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A
> > > > > > "C","CITIGROUP
> > > > > > INC",53.53,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.37,53.61,53.90,53.45,3043174
> > > > > > "HON","HONEYWELL INTL
> > > > > > IN",57.47,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.71,58.08,N/A,57.38,885487
> > > > > > "MCD","MCDONALDS
> > > > > > CP",50.62,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.23,50.85,N/A,50.475,2018600
> > > > > > "T","AT&T
> > > > INC.",40.48,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.01,40.25,N/A,N/A,4402540
> > > > > > "CAT","CATERPILLAR
> > > > > > INC",78.30,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.35,78.12,N/A,N/A,1280511
> > > > > > "HWP","HWP",0.00,"N/A","N/A",N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A
> > > > > > "MMM","3M
> > > > COMPANY",86.65,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.81,87.47,N/A,86.31,730600
> > > > > > "UTX","UNITED
> > > > > > TECH",69.79,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.96,70.25,N/A,69.75,935200
> > > > > > "DD","DU PONT E I DE
> > > > > > NE",51.35,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.89,52.24,N/A,51.33,1028600
> > > > > > "IBM","INTL BUSINESS
> > > > > > MAC",103.92,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 1.92,105.50,N/A,103.92,2142438
> > > > > > "MO","ALTRIA GROUP
> > > > > > INC",70.50,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.18,70.57,N/A,70.21,4473906
> > > > > > "WMT","WAL MART
> > > > > >
> > STORES",50.70,"6/6/2007","11:04am",+0.18,50.16,50.75,N/A,4821248
> > > > > > "DIS","WALT
> > > > > >
> > > > DISNEY-DISNE",34.86,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.41,35.26,N/A,34.82,1662007
> > > > > > "INTC","INTEL
> > > > > >
> > > > CP",21.7783,"6/6/2007","11:09am",-
> > 0.1817,21.90,21.97,21.76,17449764
> > > > > > "MRK","MERCK CO
> > > > > > INC",50.95,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.11,51.00,51.31,N/A,3055656
> > > > > > "XOM","EXXON MOBIL
> > > > > > CP",83.17,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 1.09,84.17,N/A,83.05,5206061
> > > > > > "EK","EASTMAN KODAK
> > > > > > CO",26.22,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.36,26.40,N/A,N/A,1019400
> > > > > > "IP","INTL
> > > > PAPER",38.67,"6/6/2007","11:04am",-
> > 0.66,39.08,N/A,38.57,763900
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ajay
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion
> > between users only.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-
> mail
> > directly to
> > > > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news
> always
> > check DEVLOG:
> > > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For other support material please check also:
> > > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please note that this group is for discussion
between
> > users only.
> > > >
> > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail
> > directly to
> > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > > >
> > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always
> > check DEVLOG:
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > > >
> > > > For other support material please check also:
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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