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I'm not speaking for TJ, but from my personal experience this can in
some cases be a lifetime job ... It is somewhere between impossible
and difficult to diagnose problems on machines and o/s'es that you
can't get your hands on and while this may not be the issue this
time around, users in general are usually notoriously bad about
reporting what they are doing and what they are experiencing ...
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <fimdot@xxx> wrote:
>
> "From programmer point of view such thing is complete nonsense."
>
> "Cases when Windows does not operate correctly are user-side
problems, not mine/ nor AB."
>
> However, from a user friendly viewpoint, identifying known
problems for users makes a lot of sense, imo.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> From programmer point of view such thing is complete nonsense.
>
> I know one thing for sure that right mouse button handling is
100% correct in AB and it works 100% correct
> if only your Windows works correctly.
> What AmiBroker does is to catch WM_RBUTTONDOWN and display the
menu.
> Learn more about it here:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-
us/winui/winui/windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/mouseinputre
ference/mouseinputmessages/wm_rbuttondown.asp?frame=true
>
> It works 100% correctly ALWAYS, if only Windows operates
correctly.
>
> There is only one control path and it does NOT depend on
anything, specifically does not depend
> on whenever you restarted program or not.
>
> Cases when Windows does not operate correctly are user-side
problems, not mine/ nor AB.
>
> Following thinking presented in your suggestion I would need to
provide tens of different "cautionary notes" for cases when user
> has broken hard disk, mouse, keyboard, "memory turbo" programs
etc / etc.
>
> By they way: logitech drivers were reported by one user in the
past as causing all kind of weird problems.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wavemechanic
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Tomasz:
>
> "Cautionary note about what? About something that I can not
reproduce on ANY of my 5 testing machines ????"
>
> A cautionary note that if right click does not work then use
double click. The fact that you do not have a problem obviously
does not reflect others experience and might be due to use of
machines without much 3rd party software that users tend to collect
and that you cannot reproduce. If you are right and the problem is
due to conflicts between software then that will undoubtedly
continue to be the case because users will always be using other
programs. A cautionary note would acknowledge this reality.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Bill,
>
> However, a cautionary note in the Users Guide would make
sense so that future users do not "bang" their heads against the
wall.
>
> Cautionary note about what? About something that I can not
reproduce on ANY of my 5 testing machines ????
> Right-click works perfect for me each time and every time,
on every machine, on Windows 95, 98, Millenium, XP and Vista.
Regardless of restarting program, settings, clicking there and here
and doing every other imaginable thing.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wavemechanic
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Tomasz:
>
> My settings are OK. As for mouse and anti-virus, they are
Logitech and AVG. Of course, like all computers other 3rd party
programs are installed and conflicts could exist although the
activation problem you noted is not present.
>
> Most people might use double click and so do not run into
Amon's right click problem. However, a cautionary note in the Users
Guide would make sense so that future users do not "bang" their
heads against the wall.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes I did that exactly in that order and it works
everytime perfectly. Zillions of times I checked.
> It works for me using ANY setting combination which I
tried.
>
> Existing program has completely no influence on
operation, unless your Windows behaves
> strangely and does not activate application that is just
started so you need to click once to activate it
> (that would indicate serious problem with your Windows).
Probable culprits are
> 3rd party mouse drivers, poorly-written anti-virus
software that steal focus from apps, etc, etc.
>
> But to avoid "weird settings", you should make sure to
have your settings stay
> at DEFAULT values which are:
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wavemechanic
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> TJ or anyone:
>
> When testing "zillions" of time, did you try to add
the Gann/Fibonacci studies, exit the program, restart the program
and then try to change the properties in exactly that order? Or did
you just try to change the properties without exiting first?. For
me, this sequence always results in an inability to change the
properties after restarting the program.
>
> Can you confirm that the sequence of adding the study,
and then exiting and restarting the program permits the study's
properties to be modified and properly displayed at that point
without redrawing? Looking at the messages in the thread, the "no
problem" responses did not indicate that Amon's sequence, including
the critical step of exiting the program before attempting to modify
properties, was followed and may not have been used.
>
> Amon's procedure works for me and I'm not aware of
weird settings, non-standard drivers, etc. Maybe Amon knows of
something strange on his computer.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> As I wrote already and others on the list confirmed -
it works fine.
> This has been tested zillions of times here and
worked everytime OK, so we can not confirm any problem in this area.
>
> Maybe you have some weird settings or mouse driver
that is non standard (non Microsoft) or something else that
> disturbes normal operation of Windows. Anyway, I
don't see any problem in AB. Case closed.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amon Ra
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Bill,
> The second problem not apear so often, but time to
time. I dindn't found a rule in this case.
> But another case when properties are locked, as
you say, is when I plot Gann Fan (or Fibonacci Retracement) and
make double click on the char for a few time before try to edit this
tool.
>
> Amon
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: fimdot <fimdot@xxx>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:17:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
>
> "Look, plot Gann Fan and Fiboancci Retracement on
a chart. Close Amibroker and then reopen it. Now, try to change some
colors or delete some levels and click Ok. See, nothing is
change!!!" ---- I agree, get the same result. The key is closing
the chart first. The charting tools work properly until the chart
is closed. After they are closed, properties are locked. However,
if the charting study is deleted and redrawn then the changes
appear. So the program remembers the changes but does not
implement them until the charting study is redrawn.
>
> "The other problem is: sometimes mouse not change
his pointer when I move it above Gann Fan or Fibonacci
Retracement. " --- I cannot duplicate this problem. Works OK for
me. Perhaps I don't understand what you are doing.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amon Ra
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Joe,
> Look, plot Gann Fan and Fiboancci Retracement on
a chart. Close Amibroker and then reopen it. Now, try to change some
colors or delete some levels and click Ok. See, nothing is change!!!
> That it's just one problem (old problem).
> The other problem is: sometimes mouse not change
his pointer when I move it above Gann Fan or Fibonacci Retracement.
How can I move or edit tools in this case? I found just one
solution: to use Delete All Studies and redraw them, but so I lose
all study lines.
>
> Amon
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joe Landry <jelandry@xxxxxxxxxx net>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:23:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
>
> OR with the indicator selected, like the Gann
lines, keystroke ALT ENTER and voila.
> HTH
> JOE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Keitel
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
> Not impossible in fact easy
>
> As with ALL the indicators as far as I can tell
>
> Double click on the indicator on the chart
>
> Properties box pops up
>
> Go in and can change color, line values, and
line looks
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com [mailto:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com ] On Behalf Of Amon Ra
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:16 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
>
>
> I know to work with them, I'm not newer. Look
at this chart (attached). I plot Gann Fan and then the Resistance
Line. Now, if I want to change the levels of Gann Fan (to delete
some of them)... hmm, it's impossible.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tomasz Jan eczko
<groups@xxxx:///C:/Document s%20and%20Settin gs/Ra/Applicatio n%
20Data/ Microsoft/ Internet% 20Explorer/ Quick%20Launch/ Show%
20Desktop. scfamibroker.com>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:55:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tools
>
> They all work fine, and there is nothing to
fix.
> Learn to operate your RIG HT mouse button
> http://www.amibroke r.com/guide/ h_charting.
html
>
> "Properties" dialog is your friend.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Jan eczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "amon_gizeh" <amon_gizeh@xxxxxx com>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:17 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Tools
>
> > There are some problems with Fibonacci
Retracement and Gann Fan. After
> > plotting them on the chart, if I draw other
studies, I can modify
> > settings of these tools (colors, levels,
style etc.). And one more:
> > sometimes I cant selected them (after
plotting). In these is just one
> > solutions to deleted: "Delete all studies"
and I don't want to loose
> > al my studies.
> > I found these problems last year in 4.70
version.
> > Tomasz, can you fix them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note that this group is for
discussion between users only.
> >
> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an
e-mail directly to
> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >
> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news
always check DEVLOG:
> > http://www.amibroke r.com/devlog/
> >
> > For other support material please check also:
> > http://www.amibroke r.com/support. html
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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