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[amibroker] Re: Margin of Error



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Chuck,

It could be any trading signal.
I  used the Calender Mondays because it is coming up later in the 
project.

Say, daily timeframe and my data returns 500 trades.

I think W/L etc will average but I am not sure how StDev would fare 
and how it should be handled.

What I am interested in is if I broke the sample up into 5 X 100 
tests, ran an MCS or other sampling distribution, would the outcome 
have a lesser, greater or equal margin of error.

How do we combine statistics from more than one sample?

BrianB2.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cstrader" <cstrader232@xxx> wrote:
>
> The mean profit or loss would be the same.  I woudn't think it 
would be 
> possible to say ahead of time about the variance, but I'm not sure 
about 
> that.  However, I do believe you have to determine what timeframe 
you are 
> interested in.  Are you interested in asking whether you would 
have been 
> successful using the system over the 500 weeks that you have data 
for?  Or 
> are you interested in determining what proportion of 100 week 
periods would 
> have been successful?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:22 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Margin of Error
> 
> 
> > The question is:
> >
> > If I have 10 years of data and that provides 500 Monday samples 
for
> > a Calender Effect study would the margin for error be less or 
more
> > if I tested the sample in one segment (500 trades) or undertook 5
> > tests with 100 samples and then combined the results in some way?
> >
> > If so, what is the best way to use the 5 samples to get the
> > population outcomes.
> >
> > No offence taken if you are too busy to answer.
> >
> > BrianB2.
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "quanttrader714"
> > <quanttrader714@> wrote:
> >>
> >> One way to approach this is with a form of the block bootstrap, 
by
> >> resampling  blocks of consecutive observations of random length
> > with
> >> replacement.
> >>
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sebastiandanconia"
> >> <sebastiandanconia@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I only offer this as a consideration when using such testing,
> > not as a
> >> > criticism of Monte Carlo Simulations.  A subtle but 
significant
> > point
> >> > (IMO) when using MCS:  They may or may not be applicable to
> >> > trading/investing, because the markets don't always behave
> > randomly.
> >> >
> >> > An example of when a MCS would clearly be appropriate:  Let's
> > say you're
> >> > a defense contractor manufacturing a part for the 
International
> > Space
> >> > Station.  The part is critical, but because of limitations in
> >> > engineering technology it has a high failure rate, and there's
> > no way of
> >> > forecasting in advance if a part will fail.  However, although
> > the
> >> > failure rate is high, it's also very consistent.  Until
> > technology
> >> > advances sufficiently the only practical solution is to keep
> > plenty of
> >> > spares on-hand.
> >> >
> >> > A MCS could tell you what the optimal number of spares to keep
> > on-hand
> >> > would be.  The part failures are random, but MC could tell you
> > the
> >> > likelihood of two, three, five, ten, etc., consecutive
> > failures.  You
> >> > might determine that there would only be a 1/100,000 chance 
that
> > 6
> >> > spares in a row would fail, so you might advise NASA to stock 
at
> > least 6
> >> > spares at all times.
> >> >
> >> > Some trading systems, though, will be successful because they
> > take
> >> > advantage of repeating sequences of events, not random events.
> > Business
> >> > cycles go through a specific sequence, company growth follows 
a
> > certain
> >> > pattern from infancy to maturity, price trends/reversals 
follow a
> >> > sequence, etc.  If trades based on reliable, repeating 
patterns
> > are
> >> > taken out of order by a MCS such that a massive drawdown or a
> >> > bankrupting series of losers occurs, that can distort the 
value
> > of the
> >> > trading method by putting the trades in an order that wouldn't
> > occur.
> >> >
> >> > Soapbox alert!:)  Another reason that "Why does it work?" is
> > such an
> >> > important question with trading systems, since a good answer 
to
> > that
> >> > question can lead to a good answer for another important
> > question, "When
> >> > WON'T it work?"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > S.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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