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I use the ZLR signal in Woodies CCI to enter my trades. So far I'm
making money.
I always use the first or second ZLR signal after a trend change. (The
trend change that occurred after 11:00am Thursday showed 10 ZLR
signals during the run-up - I only used the first.)
I look at the at the SP500 Futures premium over cash to see if it is
close to initiating buy/sell programs
I look at the daily trend using an adaptive moving average indicator
I look at TICK and TRIN
And finally CNBC and the economic calendar for announcements that
might influence the trade (such as last weeks FOMC announcement which
put large spikes both up and down into the market.
Now for closing out a trade. This is more important than the entry. I
sell 1/2 if the position moves 1/2 point in my direction (ER2), then I
sell 1/4 when the Heikin-Ashi (Tomasz version) shows a whisker, doji
or changes color, then another 1/4 when the market trend changes per
my adaptive moving average.
So, no my implementation of WCCI is not mechanical.
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <ftonetti@xxx> wrote:
>
> If some successful Woodie trader would like to step forward and
> explain what it is they do, I'd be happy to write the code for it to
> their satisfaction ...
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <fimdot@> wrote:
> >
> > Those who have made Woodie work have their own spin, including the
> use of other indicators and learning how to live with
> nebulous "rules" that Woodie's guidelines provide. As the guidelines
> indicate, the guidelines have some "nuances" that cannot be described
> and have to be learned on the job. Some use one Woodie pattern (e.g.,
> ZLR) and others all or some of the patterns. Some use the patterns in
> conjunction with other indicators. Sit in on the Woodie chat
> sometime and see how many variations are used by traders in the same
> market at the same time. One often hears Woodie traders say something
> like one has to find their "style" because the "system" is not black
> and white. By definition, this is not a mechanical system and any
> attempt to code this "system" will at best be a snapshot of one of
> many configurations used by traders. I doubt that any attempt to
> code from the guidelines will be attractive, as opposed to coding
> what a successful Woodie trader does.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Fred" <ftonetti@>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:44 AM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: seeking the following in a trading
> platform for a Woodie's CCI trader
> >
> >
> > > The "RULES" as stated in the documentation written by someone who
> has
> > > apparently been using the "METHOD" for some time and which were
> > > verified by Woodie himself while not extremely straightforward
> can be
> > > turned into AFL.
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Rakesh Sahgal" <rakeshsahgal@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> To the extent I have been able to understand, Woodies is more of
> a
> > > method,
> > >> rather than a system where objectively laid out criteria can be
> > > applied.
> > >>
> > >> Success is as much a function of the trader's competence in
> > > understanding
> > >> and applying the method(not system) as it is a function of the
> > > trader
> > >> knowing when there is a higher probability of a particular
> pattern
> > >> succeeding. The fact that it is hyped up to the extent it is,
> is
> > > probably
> > >> because novices gravitate towards it hoping they can gloss over
> > > their own
> > >> shortcomings and achieve some measure of success.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> R
> > >>
> > >> On 10/27/06, Fred <ftonetti@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > It's not about discretionary .vs. system trading ... I have
> every
> > >> > respect for those who are successful with some form of
> > > discretionary
> > >> > trading ...
> > >> >
> > >> > However, when I hear of a particular method where the experts
> > > state
> > >> > that there are definite rules and the rules are written and
> > > applied
> > >> > via AFL or ELx or whatever and the resulting backtest is a
> flop
> > > and
> > >> > then the experts then state that the rules can't be backtested
> I
> > >> > become more than a little suspicious.
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <fimdot@>
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I wouldn't knock Woodies (or any other) approach. I know a
> > > couple
> > >> > of traders who have done very well following in his
> footsteps. I
> > >> > never got comfortable with it but there is always more than
> one
> > > way
> > >> > to do something successfully (e.g., system vs. discretionary
> > > trading).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Bill
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: "Fred" <ftonetti@>
> > >> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:41 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: seeking the following in a trading
> > >> > platform for a Woodie's CCI trader
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Woodies is like being on a Jim Jones trip ... now drink the
> > >> > coolaide
> > >> > > > boys and girls ...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000"
> <stevehite@>
> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Tomasz,
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I apologize for my outburst like this. It just burns me
> up
> > >> > > >> sometimes when I know how powerful your product already
> is
> > > and
> > >> > how
> > >> > > >> people come on this board and want the moon put into a
> $229
> > >> > price
> > >> > > >> tag.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Next time, I'll just curse to myself and ignore these
> kinds
> > > of
> > >> > > > posts.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Steve
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000"
> <stevehite@>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Dennis,
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > What are you trying to do? Suck the life force out of
> this
> > >> > group
> > >> > > >> and
> > >> > > >> > leave it for dead? Maybe you were some powerful guy
> in
> > > the 9
> > >> > to
> > >> > > >> 5
> > >> > > >> > business world where that kind of detailed delegation of
> > >> > > >> > responsibility got you fat bonuses, but I would hope
> that
> > >> > > >> technique
> > >> > > >> > doesn't fly in the trading community where no one owes
> you
> > >> > > >> anything.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > I have lost a couple of trading buddies to "the Woodies
> > > CCI"
> > >> > and,
> > >> > > >> > unfortunately, by the time I saved myself from it, they
> > >> > already
> > >> > > >> had to
> > >> > > >> > go back to their 9 to 5 jobs in order to put food on the
> > >> > table.
> > >> > > >> [I'm
> > >> > > >> > not joking]
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between
> users
> > > only.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail
> directly
> > > to
> > >> > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > >> > > >
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > For other support material please check also:
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
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> > > Date:
> > >> > 10/20/2006
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Please note that this group is for discussion between users
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> > >> >
> > >> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
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> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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