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[amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data



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Hello Prashanth,

Thanks for the zoo link.
I didn't kow about that site before so that is a good find for me.

BrianB.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Prashanth" <prash454@xxx> wrote:
>
> Is this a Joke :) ?
> 
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/ODBC.html
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODBC
> 
> http://sqlzoo.net/
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Prashanth
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Graham 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:13 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of 
Historical Fundamental Data
> 
> 
>   I honestly have no idea what the heck they mean or what they are 
for
> 
>   -- 
>   Cheers
>   Graham
>   AB-Write >< Professional AFL Writing Service
>   Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
>   http://e-wire.net.au/~eb_kavan/ab_write.htm
> 
>   On 24/07/06, brian.z123 <brian.z123@xxx> wrote:
>   > Hello Graham,
>   >
>   > Is that a cryptic message or are you just sick of acronyms?
>   >
>   > BrianB2
>   >
>   > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Now all I have to do is work what the heck all these 
acronyms like
>   > ODBC and
>   > > SQL mean
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --
>   > > Cheers
>   > > Graham
>   > > AB-Write >< Professional AFL Writing Service
>   > > Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
>   > > http://e-wire.net.au/~eb_kavan/ab_write.htm
>   > >
>   > > On 22/07/06, Tomasz Janeczko <groups@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Hello,
>   > > >
>   > > > ODBC plugin is database-independent, so you can hook up to
>   > Access as well.
>   > > > Just create database in Access, then create ODBC data 
source
>   > name linking
>   > > > to Access database,
>   > > > using Windows Control Panel / Admin ODBC data sources and 
then
>   > you can
>   > > > use the plugin.
>   > > >
>   > > > Any subsequent examples will work on all/any database 
engine.
>   > > >
>   > > > Best regards,
>   > > > Tomasz Janeczko
>   > > > amibroker.com
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > *From:* Joe Landry <jelandry@>
>   > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:15 PM
>   > > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
>   > Historical
>   > > > Fundamental Data
>   > > >
>   > > > Tomasz - Thanks for adding the ODBC plug-in. I think it 
will
>   > benefit me
>   > > > but the mySQL learning curve looks like
>   > > > it is pretty steep for me. I'm wondering if in 
your "details
>   > will follow
>   > > > later" if you could include an example of
>   > > > hooking up to Access tables? A starter say.
>   > > >
>   > > > Best regards
>   > > > JOE
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > *From:* Tomasz Janeczko <groups@>
>   > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:34 AM
>   > > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
>   > Historical
>   > > > Fundamental Data
>   > > >
>   > > > Don,
>   > > >
>   > > > Current version of the SQL plugin is read-only, but future
>   > release will
>   > > > allow writing from AFL level,
>   > > > this connected with GetFnData would give possibility to 
actually
>   > create
>   > > > historical fundamental database from one simple
>   > > > AFL formula. Details will follow later.
>   > > >
>   > > > Best regards,
>   > > > Tomasz Janeczko
>   > > > amibroker.com
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > *From:* Don Lindberg <dlindber@>
>   > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:05 AM
>   > > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
>   > Historical
>   > > > Fundamental Data
>   > > >
>   > > > Brian,
>   > > >
>   > > > Thanks for the reply. I now have a much clearer picture of 
how
>   > the data is
>   > > > kept in AB. Now I have to figure out how to create a SQL
>   > database with the
>   > > > "extra" data I want to build history on |;>).
>   > > >
>   > > > Thanks Again,
>   > > >
>   > > > Don
>   > > >
>   > > > *-------Original Message-------*
>   > > >
>   > > > *From:* brian.z123 <brian.z123@>
>   > > > *Date:* 07/21/06 16:08:47
>   > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > > > *Subject:* [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
>   > Historical
>   > > > Fundamental Data
>   > > >
>   > > > Hello Don,
>   > > >
>   > > > I still have a lot to learn about AB, so, with some
>   > qualification the
>   > > > answer is no.
>   > > >
>   > > > Ami does not work like that.
>   > > > It can only keep six fields or columns of data (OHLCVOI), 
if we
>   > > > compare it a spreadsheet or a database table for learning
>   > purposes.
>   > > > The other information like the company name, category and 
the new
>   > > > fundamental data etc is only stored once.
>   > > > If you are used to spreadsheets just consider that the 
Yahoo
>   > data is
>   > > > stored in columns with only one row, while the OHLCVOI 
data can
>   > be
>   > > > stored in an unlimited number of rows (technically 
speaking this
>   > in
>   > > > not correct as Ami uses arrays not 'columns' but that is 
how I
>   > think
>   > > > about it for ease of learning).
>   > > > When you update your fdata with a new download from Yahoo 
the old
>   > > > numbers will be replaced (overwritten) by the new numbers 
so
>   > there is
>   > > > No way to refer back to previous, say EPS.
>   > > >
>   > > > There was a way around this by importing with the ASCII 
wizard
>   > and
>   > > > using an artificial ticker to store the historical data, 
but
>   > that is a
>   > > > little more difficult to do.
>   > > > To manage that with the new Yahoo fdata you would first 
need to
>   > export
>   > > > the data from AB on a regular basis and save each line of 
export
>   > by
>   > > > appending it to the previous line(s)in a separate file 
outside
>   > of AB
>   > > > e.g. a .CSV file.
>   > > > From there you can import it back into AB as an artificial
>   > ticker.
>   > > > That is a separate subject if you want to go into it.
>   > > >
>   > > > That is not so relevant as of today as Tomasz just posted a
>   > notice to
>   > > > say that the new 'database' plug in has been released.
>   > > > It is designed to allow users to read databases containing 
data
>   > that
>   > > > is extra to the OHLCVOI fields that comprise the normal AB
>   > databases.
>   > > > I haven't downloaded and read the instructions as yet but I
>   > expect it
>   > > > to be easy to use.
>   > > >
>   > > > In the long run, that would be the recommended way to go 
for
>   > > > fundamentalists.
>   > > > It will definitely be much easier to use historical 
fundamental
>   > data.
>   > > > That leaves us with the problem now of finding some 
databases to
>   > > > practise on.
>   > > > For actual trading use databases that have been kept for 
us by
>   > others
>   > > > are the best bet but some users will export from AB/Yhaoo 
data
>   > and
>   > > > compile historcal records for themselves.
>   > > >
>   > > > For commercial sources refer to mmy previous historical
>   > fundamental
>   > > > data provider lists.
>   > > >
>   > > > One of the sources in that list is reported to have free 
data
>   > (HOOVER)
>   > > > which would be good for training use or people who prefer 
that.
>   > > > I will look more closely at the prospects on the list 
later.
>   > > > I am not optimistic about the chance of finding free histo 
fdata
>   > (the
>   > > > cost of compiling and maintaining such databases is too 
high for
>   > > > owners to give a lot of it away).
>   > > >
>   > > > Some Amifriends might have histo database files they will 
share
>   > for
>   > > > training use.
>   > > >
>   > > > I am sure there will be more forum help forthcoming on the 
new
>   > plugin
>   > > > and how to acquire and use histo fundamental databases.
>   > > >
>   > > > BrianB.
>   > > >
>   > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Don Lindberg" 
<dlindber@>
>   > wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > I have a question about setup of AmiBroker regarding the
>   > Fundamental
>   > > > > Data we can now dowload from Yahoo. While I realize that
>   > Yahoo does
>   > > > > not keep this info in a Historical database, does 
AmiBroker?
>   > What I
>   > > > > mean is this. If I download the fundamental data, say 
once a
>   > week,
>   > > > am
>   > > > > I overtime building a history of this data? And if I am, 
how
>   > do I
>   > > > > compare today with last week?
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Don Lindberg
>   > > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between 
users only.
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