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Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data



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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graham 
  To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data


  I honestly have no idea what the heck they mean or what they are for

  -- 
  Cheers
  Graham
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  Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
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  On 24/07/06, brian.z123 <brian.z123@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  > Hello Graham,
  >
  > Is that a cryptic message or are you just sick of acronyms?
  >
  > BrianB2
  >
  > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxx> wrote:
  > >
  > > Now all I have to do is work what the heck all these acronyms like
  > ODBC and
  > > SQL mean
  > >
  > >
  > > --
  > > Cheers
  > > Graham
  > > AB-Write >< Professional AFL Writing Service
  > > Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
  > > http://e-wire.net.au/~eb_kavan/ab_write.htm
  > >
  > > On 22/07/06, Tomasz Janeczko <groups@xxx> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Hello,
  > > >
  > > > ODBC plugin is database-independent, so you can hook up to
  > Access as well.
  > > > Just create database in Access, then create ODBC data source
  > name linking
  > > > to Access database,
  > > > using Windows Control Panel / Admin ODBC data sources and then
  > you can
  > > > use the plugin.
  > > >
  > > > Any subsequent examples will work on all/any database engine.
  > > >
  > > > Best regards,
  > > > Tomasz Janeczko
  > > > amibroker.com
  > > >
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > *From:* Joe Landry <jelandry@xxx>
  > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:15 PM
  > > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
  > Historical
  > > > Fundamental Data
  > > >
  > > > Tomasz - Thanks for adding the ODBC plug-in. I think it will
  > benefit me
  > > > but the mySQL learning curve looks like
  > > > it is pretty steep for me. I'm wondering if in your "details
  > will follow
  > > > later" if you could include an example of
  > > > hooking up to Access tables? A starter say.
  > > >
  > > > Best regards
  > > > JOE
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > *From:* Tomasz Janeczko <groups@xxx>
  > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:34 AM
  > > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
  > Historical
  > > > Fundamental Data
  > > >
  > > > Don,
  > > >
  > > > Current version of the SQL plugin is read-only, but future
  > release will
  > > > allow writing from AFL level,
  > > > this connected with GetFnData would give possibility to actually
  > create
  > > > historical fundamental database from one simple
  > > > AFL formula. Details will follow later.
  > > >
  > > > Best regards,
  > > > Tomasz Janeczko
  > > > amibroker.com
  > > >
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > *From:* Don Lindberg <dlindber@xxx>
  > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:05 AM
  > > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
  > Historical
  > > > Fundamental Data
  > > >
  > > > Brian,
  > > >
  > > > Thanks for the reply. I now have a much clearer picture of how
  > the data is
  > > > kept in AB. Now I have to figure out how to create a SQL
  > database with the
  > > > "extra" data I want to build history on |;>).
  > > >
  > > > Thanks Again,
  > > >
  > > > Don
  > > >
  > > > *-------Original Message-------*
  > > >
  > > > *From:* brian.z123 <brian.z123@xxx>
  > > > *Date:* 07/21/06 16:08:47
  > > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > > > *Subject:* [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
  > Historical
  > > > Fundamental Data
  > > >
  > > > Hello Don,
  > > >
  > > > I still have a lot to learn about AB, so, with some
  > qualification the
  > > > answer is no.
  > > >
  > > > Ami does not work like that.
  > > > It can only keep six fields or columns of data (OHLCVOI), if we
  > > > compare it a spreadsheet or a database table for learning
  > purposes.
  > > > The other information like the company name, category and the new
  > > > fundamental data etc is only stored once.
  > > > If you are used to spreadsheets just consider that the Yahoo
  > data is
  > > > stored in columns with only one row, while the OHLCVOI data can
  > be
  > > > stored in an unlimited number of rows (technically speaking this
  > in
  > > > not correct as Ami uses arrays not 'columns' but that is how I
  > think
  > > > about it for ease of learning).
  > > > When you update your fdata with a new download from Yahoo the old
  > > > numbers will be replaced (overwritten) by the new numbers so
  > there is
  > > > No way to refer back to previous, say EPS.
  > > >
  > > > There was a way around this by importing with the ASCII wizard
  > and
  > > > using an artificial ticker to store the historical data, but
  > that is a
  > > > little more difficult to do.
  > > > To manage that with the new Yahoo fdata you would first need to
  > export
  > > > the data from AB on a regular basis and save each line of export
  > by
  > > > appending it to the previous line(s)in a separate file outside
  > of AB
  > > > e.g. a .CSV file.
  > > > From there you can import it back into AB as an artificial
  > ticker.
  > > > That is a separate subject if you want to go into it.
  > > >
  > > > That is not so relevant as of today as Tomasz just posted a
  > notice to
  > > > say that the new 'database' plug in has been released.
  > > > It is designed to allow users to read databases containing data
  > that
  > > > is extra to the OHLCVOI fields that comprise the normal AB
  > databases.
  > > > I haven't downloaded and read the instructions as yet but I
  > expect it
  > > > to be easy to use.
  > > >
  > > > In the long run, that would be the recommended way to go for
  > > > fundamentalists.
  > > > It will definitely be much easier to use historical fundamental
  > data.
  > > > That leaves us with the problem now of finding some databases to
  > > > practise on.
  > > > For actual trading use databases that have been kept for us by
  > others
  > > > are the best bet but some users will export from AB/Yhaoo data
  > and
  > > > compile historcal records for themselves.
  > > >
  > > > For commercial sources refer to mmy previous historical
  > fundamental
  > > > data provider lists.
  > > >
  > > > One of the sources in that list is reported to have free data
  > (HOOVER)
  > > > which would be good for training use or people who prefer that.
  > > > I will look more closely at the prospects on the list later.
  > > > I am not optimistic about the chance of finding free histo fdata
  > (the
  > > > cost of compiling and maintaining such databases is too high for
  > > > owners to give a lot of it away).
  > > >
  > > > Some Amifriends might have histo database files they will share
  > for
  > > > training use.
  > > >
  > > > I am sure there will be more forum help forthcoming on the new
  > plugin
  > > > and how to acquire and use histo fundamental databases.
  > > >
  > > > BrianB.
  > > >
  > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Don Lindberg" <dlindber@>
  > wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > I have a question about setup of AmiBroker regarding the
  > Fundamental
  > > > > Data we can now dowload from Yahoo. While I realize that
  > Yahoo does
  > > > > not keep this info in a Historical database, does AmiBroker?
  > What I
  > > > > mean is this. If I download the fundamental data, say once a
  > week,
  > > > am
  > > > > I overtime building a history of this data? And if I am, how
  > do I
  > > > > compare today with last week?
  > > > >
  > > > > Don Lindberg
  > > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
  > > >
  > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
  > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
  > > >
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