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Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data



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On 24/07/06, brian.z123 <brian.z123@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Graham,
>
> Is that a cryptic message or are you just sick of acronyms?
>
> BrianB2
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Now all I have to do is work what the heck all these acronyms like
> ODBC and
> > SQL mean
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Graham
> > AB-Write >< Professional AFL Writing Service
> > Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
> > http://e-wire.net.au/~eb_kavan/ab_write.htm
> >
> > On 22/07/06, Tomasz Janeczko <groups@xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hello,
> > >
> > > ODBC plugin is database-independent, so you can hook up to
> Access as well.
> > > Just create database in Access, then create ODBC data source
> name linking
> > > to Access database,
> > > using Windows Control Panel / Admin  ODBC data sources and then
> you can
> > > use the plugin.
> > >
> > > Any subsequent examples will work on all/any database engine.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Joe Landry <jelandry@xxx>
> > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:15 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
> Historical
> > > Fundamental Data
> > >
> > > Tomasz - Thanks for adding the ODBC plug-in.  I think it will
> benefit me
> > > but the mySQL learning curve looks like
> > > it is pretty steep for me.  I'm wondering if in your "details
> will follow
> > > later" if you could include an example of
> > > hooking up to Access tables?  A starter say.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > JOE
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Tomasz Janeczko <groups@xxx>
> > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:34 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
> Historical
> > > Fundamental Data
> > >
> > > Don,
> > >
> > > Current version of the SQL plugin is read-only, but future
> release will
> > > allow writing from AFL level,
> > > this connected with GetFnData would give possibility to actually
> create
> > > historical fundamental database from one simple
> > > AFL formula. Details will follow later.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Don Lindberg <dlindber@xxx>
> > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:05 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
> Historical
> > > Fundamental Data
> > >
> > >    Brian,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. I now have a much clearer picture of how
> the data is
> > > kept in AB. Now I have to figure out how to create a SQL
> database with the
> > > "extra" data I want to build history on  |;>).
> > >
> > > Thanks Again,
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > *-------Original Message-------*
> > >
> > >  *From:* brian.z123 <brian.z123@xxx>
> > > *Date:* 07/21/06 16:08:47
> > > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Subject:* [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of
> Historical
> > > Fundamental Data
> > >
> > > Hello Don,
> > >
> > > I still have a lot to learn about AB, so, with some
> qualification the
> > > answer is no.
> > >
> > > Ami does not work like that.
> > > It can only keep six fields or columns of data (OHLCVOI), if we
> > > compare it a spreadsheet or a database table for learning
> purposes.
> > > The other information like the company name, category and the new
> > > fundamental data etc is only stored once.
> > > If you are used to spreadsheets just consider that the Yahoo
> data is
> > > stored in columns with only one row, while the OHLCVOI data can
> be
> > > stored in an unlimited number of rows (technically speaking this
> in
> > > not correct as Ami uses arrays not 'columns' but that is how I
> think
> > > about it for ease of learning).
> > > When you update your fdata with a new download from Yahoo the old
> > > numbers will be replaced (overwritten) by the new numbers so
> there is
> > > No way to refer back to previous, say EPS.
> > >
> > > There was a way around this by importing with the ASCII wizard
> and
> > > using an artificial ticker to store the historical data, but
> that is a
> > > little more difficult to do.
> > > To manage that with the new Yahoo fdata you would first need to
> export
> > > the data from AB on a regular basis and save each line of export
> by
> > > appending it to the previous line(s)in a separate file outside
> of AB
> > > e.g. a .CSV file.
> > > From there you can import it back into AB as an artificial
> ticker.
> > > That is a separate subject if you want to go into it.
> > >
> > > That is not so relevant as of today as Tomasz just posted a
> notice to
> > > say that the new 'database' plug in has been released.
> > > It is designed to allow users to read databases containing data
> that
> > > is extra to the OHLCVOI fields that comprise the normal AB
> databases.
> > > I haven't downloaded and read the instructions as yet but I
> expect it
> > > to be easy to use.
> > >
> > > In the long run, that would be the recommended way to go for
> > > fundamentalists.
> > > It will definitely be much easier to use historical fundamental
> data.
> > > That leaves us with the problem now of finding some databases to
> > > practise on.
> > > For actual trading use databases that have been kept for us by
> others
> > > are the best bet but some users will export from AB/Yhaoo data
> and
> > > compile historcal records for themselves.
> > >
> > > For commercial sources refer to mmy previous historical
> fundamental
> > > data provider lists.
> > >
> > > One of the sources in that list is reported to have free data
> (HOOVER)
> > > which would be good for training use or people who prefer that.
> > > I will look more closely at the prospects on the list later.
> > > I am not optimistic about the chance of finding free histo fdata
> (the
> > > cost of compiling and maintaining such databases is too high for
> > > owners to give a lot of it away).
> > >
> > > Some Amifriends might have histo database files they will share
> for
> > > training use.
> > >
> > > I am sure there will be more forum help forthcoming on the new
> plugin
> > > and how to acquire and use histo fundamental databases.
> > >
> > > BrianB.
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Don Lindberg" <dlindber@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a question about setup of AmiBroker regarding the
> Fundamental
> > > > Data we can now dowload from Yahoo.  While I realize that
> Yahoo does
> > > > not keep this info in a Historical database, does AmiBroker?
> What I
> > > > mean is this. If I download the fundamental data, say once a
> week,
> > > am
> > > > I overtime building a history of this data? And if I am, how
> do I
> > > > compare today with last week?
> > > >
> > > > Don Lindberg
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
> > >
> > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > >
> > > For other support material please check also:
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
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