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Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data



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Tomasz - Thanks for adding the ODBC plug-in.  I think it will benefit me but the mySQL learning curve looks like
it is pretty steep for me.  I'm wondering if in your "details will follow later" if you could include an example of 
hooking up to Access tables?  A starter say. 

Best regards
JOE 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tomasz Janeczko 
  To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data


  Don,

  Current version of the SQL plugin is read-only, but future release will allow writing from AFL level,
  this connected with GetFnData would give possibility to actually create historical fundamental database from one simple
  AFL formula. Details will follow later.

  Best regards,
  Tomasz Janeczko
  amibroker.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Don Lindberg 
    To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:05 AM
    Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data


           Brian,

          Thanks for the reply. I now have a much clearer picture of how the data is kept in AB. Now I have to figure out how to create a SQL database with the "extra" data I want to build history on  |;>).

          Thanks Again,

          Don

          -------Original Message-------

          From: brian.z123
          Date: 07/21/06 16:08:47
          To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [amibroker] Re: In the Ongoing Discussion of Historical Fundamental Data

          Hello Don,

          I still have a lot to learn about AB, so, with some qualification the
          answer is no.

          Ami does not work like that.
          It can only keep six fields or columns of data (OHLCVOI), if we
          compare it a spreadsheet or a database table for learning purposes.
          The other information like the company name, category and the new
          fundamental data etc is only stored once.
          If you are used to spreadsheets just consider that the Yahoo data is
          stored in columns with only one row, while the OHLCVOI data can be
          stored in an unlimited number of rows (technically speaking this in
          not correct as Ami uses arrays not 'columns' but that is how I think
          about it for ease of learning).
          When you update your fdata with a new download from Yahoo the old
          numbers will be replaced (overwritten) by the new numbers so there is
          No way to refer back to previous, say EPS.

          There was a way around this by importing with the ASCII wizard and
          using an artificial ticker to store the historical data, but that is a
          little more difficult to do.
          To manage that with the new Yahoo fdata you would first need to export
          the data from AB on a regular basis and save each line of export by
          appending it to the previous line(s)in a separate file outside of AB
          e.g. a .CSV file.
          From there you can import it back into AB as an artificial ticker..
          That is a separate subject if you want to go into it.

          That is not so relevant as of today as Tomasz just posted a notice to
          say that the new 'database' plug in has been released.
          It is designed to allow users to read databases containing data that
          is extra to the OHLCVOI fields that comprise the normal AB databases.
          I haven't downloaded and read the instructions as yet but I expect it
          to be easy to use.

          In the long run, that would be the recommended way to go for
          fundamentalists.
          It will definitely be much easier to use historical fundamental data.
          That leaves us with the problem now of finding some databases to
          practise on.
          For actual trading use databases that have been kept for us by others
          are the best bet but some users will export from AB/Yhaoo data and
          compile historcal records for themselves.

          For commercial sources refer to mmy previous historical fundamental
          data provider lists.

          One of the sources in that list is reported to have free data (HOOVER)
          which would be good for training use or people who prefer that.
          I will look more closely at the prospects on the list later.
          I am not optimistic about the chance of finding free histo fdata (the
          cost of compiling and maintaining such databases is too high for
          owners to give a lot of it away).

          Some Amifriends might have histo database files they will share for
          training use.

          I am sure there will be more forum help forthcoming on the new plugin
          and how to acquire and use histo fundamental databases.

          BrianB.

          --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Don Lindberg" <dlindber@xxx> wrote:
          >
          > I have a question about setup of AmiBroker regarding the Fundamental
          > Data we can now dowload from Yahoo.  While I realize that Yahoo does
          > not keep this info in a Historical database, does AmiBroker?  What I
          > mean is this. If I download the fundamental data, say once a week,
          am
          > I overtime building a history of this data? And if I am, how do I
          > compare today with last week?
          >
          > Don Lindberg
          >







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