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Grant,You feeling a bit inadequate??
Thanks for the input



----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Noble <gruntus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: I am lost
> Everyone has a NEED, bub. Tomasz' analogy is spot on - sounds like 
> you 
> want to fly before you can crawl. You're using borrowed code and 
> trying 
> to scale positions and you've been using AB how long ? Get over 
> yourself 
> -if it were easy everyone would be doing it. G 
> 
> allansn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 
> > *Tomasz,* 
> > 
> > *that is certainly not the answer I was expecting.I am making a 
> diligent 
> > effort to learn the coding and I have a specific NEED....Perhaps 
> you 
> > didnt bother to read my prior message to the board* 
> > 
> > *I posted the code that I was working with and can NOT get the 
> results 
> > expected from the code descriptions.It is not like I asked the 
> board to 
> > code me a system.I supplied the system which I copied from 
> either the 
> > manual or a user file.I had no problems whatsoever,but when I 
> went into 
> > the detailed trade report and went over the output,I discovered  
> that 
> > the supposed scale out of 50% was not occuring.but rather 
> 86%.After 
> > spending several hours on it,I thought that I may find some help* 
> > 
> > "/I don't have any experience as a pilot but please give me 
> simple 
> > one-page instruction how to fly jumbo-jet from New York to 
> London" 
> > Sorry but this is NOT doable"/ 
> > 
> > *Tomasz,your analogy is way off base and I really dont 
> appreciate it.* 
> > 
> > ** 
> > 
> > *Allan* 
> > 
> > ** 
> > 
> > ** 
> > 
> > ** 
> > 
> > ** 
> > 
> > *----- Original Message -----* 
> > 
> > *From*: Tomasz Janeczko <groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> > 
> > *Date*: Saturday, July 15, 2006 8:49 am 
> > 
> > *Subject*: Re: [amibroker] Re: I am lost 
> > 
> >  > Hello, 
> >  > 
> >  > What you are asking for can be compared to: 
> >  > . 
> >  > It takes time and effort to learn how to fly as it takes time and 
> >  > effort to learn how to use any tool more sophisticated than a 
> hammer.>  > 
> >  > Sorry guys but of you have no experience you should start with 
> >  > something simple and make your system 
> >  > simple not using pyramiding and such stuff.  Then go slowly 
> >  > learning AFL. THere is a plenty of material posted to this list, 
> >  > in the knowledge base and in the manual. 
> >  > 
> >  > Best regards, 
> >  > Tomasz Janeczko 
> >  > amibroker.com 
> >  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  >  From: allansn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >  >  To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >  >  Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:04 PM 
> >  >  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: I am lost 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  >  Thanks OT, 
> >  > 
> >  >  I will take you up on your offer.Ami is  great program,but 
> is in 
> >  > desparate need of a simplied" Dummy" manual for those that have 
> >  > very little programming experience. 
> >  > 
> >  >  As I did not write this code,and was using it to learn  "AFL",I 
> >  > am having a difficult time pinpointing what is causing an 86% 
> >  > scale out,when it should be 50%.. 
> >  > 
> >  >  If there are any power users who have a simple code that 
> >  > involves "scaling in/out of positions"and replacing stops,or a 
> >  > pyramyiding example would really appreciate seeing it. 
> >  > 
> >  >  Allan 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  >  From: orionsturtle <orionsturtle@xxxxxxxxx> 
> >  > 
> >  >  Date: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:20 pm 
> >  > 
> >  >  Subject: [amibroker] Re: I am lost 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  >  > I don't have the expertise in programming but I have been 
> >  >  > struggling 
> >  >  > with this same bit of code for the past 2 weeks. I have made 
> >  > it 
> >  >  > work 
> >  >  > on the long only side and would be glad to send you the EOD 
> >  > sys 
> >  >  > file 
> >  >  > I have that works. Between the detail log and the trade report 
> >  > you 
> >  >  > should be able to see what is going on and make 
> adjustments to 
> >  >  > suite 
> >  >  > your needs. The switches in the backtest settings will screw 
> >  > you 
> >  >  > up 
> >  >  > if not set properly and may account for your weird results. 
> >  > make 
> >  >  > sure in the backtest settings>portfolio tab, that the limit 
> >  > trade 
> >  >  > size as % of entry bar is set to zero and just the "Trade size 
> >  >  > limit 
> >  >  > when..." is the only thing checked. i have my max positions 
> >  > set to 
> >  >  > one for now until I get the code fully to my liking. If you 
> >  > want 
> >  >  > the 
> >  >  > SYS file reach me at orionsturtle@xxxxxxxxx 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > peace 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > OT 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "matrix10014" <allansn@xxx> 
> >  > wrote: 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > Hi, 
> >  >  > > Been playing with a code that I copied to familairize myself 
> >  >  > with 
> >  >  > > some of the functionality of Amibroker...As you can see,the 
> >  >  > entry 
> >  >  > is 
> >  >  > > a simple moving average crossover,that exits 50% of the 
> >  > position 
> >  >  > up 
> >  >  > > 20% and the remaining 50% up 30%.There is also a trailing 
> >  > stop.. 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > When i check a detailed log of the trade,I get very bizzare 
> >  >  > results. 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > An example is HANS..On 10/31/2005 I go long 205 shares of 
> >  > HANS@ 
> >  >  > 48.59 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > On 11/3,I scale out of 176 shares@xxx is 86% of my 
> >  >  > > position,when i am supposed to scale out of half.As its not 
> >  > my 
> >  >  > > code,and i am trying to learn Ami code,i really dont know 
> >  > what 
> >  >  > went 
> >  >  > > wrong.. 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 10/31/2005 
> >  >  > >         Enter Long, HANS, Price: 48.59, Shares: 205, 
> >  >  > > Commission: 0, Rank: 1, Equity 100000, Margin Loan: 0, Fx 
> >  > rate: 1 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > >                 11/3/2005 
> >  >  > >         Exit signals:HANS=Scale-Out, 
> >  >  > > Scale-Out Long HANS, Price 59.74, Shares 176, Fx Rate 1, 
> >  >  > > Number of shares - Current: 29, Exited: 176, Max: 205, Avg. 
> >  >  > Entry 
> >  >  > > Price 48.59, Avg. Exit Price 59.74, Avg Fx. Rate Entry 1, 
> >  > Exit 
> >  >  > 1, 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > The code is as follows 
> >  >  > >                        
> >  >  > > Buy = Cross(C, MA( C,21) ); 
> >  >  > > Sell = 0; 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > // the system will exit 
> >  >  > > // 50% of position if FIRST PROFIT TARGET stop is hit 
> >  >  > > // 50% of position is SECOND PROFIT TARGET stop is hit 
> >  >  > > // 100% of position if TRAILING STOP is hit 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > FirstProfitTarget = 20; // profit 
> >  >  > > SecondProfitTarget =30; // in percent 
> >  >  > > TrailingStop = 50; // also in percent 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > priceatbuy=0; 
> >  >  > > highsincebuy = 0; 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > exit = 0; 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > for( i = 0; i < BarCount; i++ ) 
> >  >  > > { 
> >  >  > >    if( priceatbuy == 0 AND Buy[ i ] ) 
> >  >  > >     { 
> >  >  > >        priceatbuy = BuyPrice[ i ]; 
> >  >  > >     } 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > >    if( priceatbuy > 0 ) 
> >  >  > >     { 
> >  >  > >        highsincebuy = Max( High[ i ], highsincebuy ); 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > >       if( exit == 0 AND 
> >  >  > >           High[ i ] >= ( 1 + FirstProfitTarget * 0.01 ) * 
> >  >  > > priceatbuy ) 
> >  >  > >        { 
> >  >  > >          // first profit target hit - scale-out 
> >  >  > >          exit = 1; 
> >  >  > >          Buy[ i ] = sigScaleOut; 
> >  >  > >        } 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > >       if( exit == 1 AND 
> >  >  > >           High[ i ] >= ( 1 + SecondProfitTarget * 0.01 ) * 
> >  >  > > priceatbuy ) 
> >  >  > >        { 
> >  >  > >          // second profit target hit - exit 
> >  >  > >          exit = 2; 
> >  >  > >          SellPrice[ i ] = Max( Open[ i ], ( 1 + 
> >  >  > SecondProfitTarget 
> >  >  > * 
> >  >  > > 0.01 ) * priceatbuy ); 
> >  >  > >        } 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > >       if( Low[ i ] <= ( 1 - TrailingStop * 0.01 ) * 
> >  > highsincebuy 
> >  >  > ) 
> >  >  > >        { 
> >  >  > >          // trailing stop hit - exit 
> >  >  > >          exit = 3;   
> >  >  > >          SellPrice[ i ] = Min( Open[ i ], ( 1 - TrailingStop 
> >  > * 
> >  >  > > 0.01 ) * highsincebuy ); 
> >  >  > >        } 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > >       if( exit >= 2 ) 
> >  >  > >        { 
> >  >  > >          Buy[ i ] = 0; 
> >  >  > >          Sell[ i ] = exit + 1; // mark appropriate exit code 
> >  >  > >          exit = 0; 
> >  >  > >          priceatbuy = 0; // reset price 
> >  >  > >          highsincebuy = 0; 
> >  >  > >        } 
> >  >  > >     } 
> >  >  > > } 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > > SetPositionSize( 10, spsPercentOfEquity ); 
> >  >  > > SetPositionSize( 50, spsPercentOfPosition * ( Buy == 
> >  >  > > sigScaleOut ) ); // scale out 50% of position 
> >  >  > > 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > 
> >  >  > 
> >  > 
> > 
> > 
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