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Hello,
I think I made myself prefectly clear in the help
file I have referenced previously, but let me make it clearer:
you must NOT use expandFirst in your trading
system except one case: getting opening price.
Every other price field or indicator (that is usually based on
CLOSING price) will effectively look into the future if you use
expandFirst.
MACD is based ON CLOSING price. You MUST NOT use it
with expandFirst in weekly mode unless you delay the signal (trading) by one
week.
AFL produces consistent results no matter in what mode you run
it (exploration, indicator, backtest) so all functions behave the
same
always. Imagine the mess when each function worked differently
in different mode.
Best regards, Tomasz Janeczko amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:19
PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Backtesting and
TimeFrameExpand(xxx,inWeekly, expandFirst);
Hello Tomasz,
I read user guide and I thought that I understand
it.. But I thought,that backtesting should work like in the
realtime.. But with expandFirst it works different.. Maybe Im
confused, so I'll try explain what happening me..
Realtime:
1. At monday, stock going higher -> so
weekly MACD (with expandFirst) is higher then previous week
2. my system give me buy signal
3. At tuesday, stock fall down -> so
weekly MACD (with expandFirst) change to be lower then previous
week
4. buy signal from monday disappear
In backtesting,
its not buy signal and it not buy stock, but it should buy
stock at monday
Tommorow, I'll try make some simple example to
better explain this problem..
Thank you very much...
MR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:19
PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Backtesting
and TimeFrameExpand(xxx,inWeekly, expandFirst);
Hello,
along with TimeFrameExpand, quote:
TimeFrameExpand( array, interval, mode =
expandLast ) - expands time-compressed array from 'interval' time frame to
base time frame ('interval' must match the value used in TimeFrameCompress
or TimeFrameSet) Available modes: expandLast - the compressed value is
expanded starting from last bar within given period (so for example weekly
close/high/low is available on Friday's bar) expandFirst - the compressed
value is expanded starting from first bar within given period (so for
example weekly open is available from Monday's bar) expandPoint - the
resulting array gets not empty values only for the last bar within given
period (all remaining bars are Null (empty)).
Caveat: expandFirst used on price different than open may
look into the future. For example if you create weekly HIGH series,
expanding it to daily interval using expandFirst will enable you to know on
MONDAY what was the high for entire week.
Best regards, Tomasz Janeczko amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:04
AM
Subject: [amibroker] Backtesting and
TimeFrameExpand(xxx,inWeekly, expandFirst);
Hi all,
First, thanks for AB.. Its really good
appliacations and I'm spending a lot of time with it. Anyway, looks
like I found some backtesting bug..
I was really suprised with
results from my new system, but later I found that backtesting is
cheating probably.. Im using weekly timeframe to compute MACD and then
expanding it to daily and I wanted use expandFirst.. So I'm getting
signals after monday.. I know, that if week will continue in wrong
direction,then signal disappear.. Its ok, but when I use backtesting,
it probably use values for whole next week and use signal from monday
(ie first day of this week).. So backtesting works with whole week,but
buying at monday and this is why I getting so good results (85%
wiinners, 250% annual return¨)
Could somebody confirm this and
help me to get real results ? Or its bug (feature) in the AB
?:)
thank you very much..
Roarke
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