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"It gets worse the farther back in time I go. I'll have to study the problem some more."

 

It sounds like you might be seeing a back-adjusted data problem. I would really like to have the fundamental data of QP3, but I think it's more important to have access to ACTUAL PRICES and EXTINCT STOCKS so my back-tested trades in 1995 will appear realistic. I.e., I will buy stocks based on their "real" price at the time and I will not have survivorship bias in my tests (buying only stocks that are still in business today because the database no longer has the old stocks - most data vendors seem to think this is a "benefit" as their databases are not "cluttered" with all the dead stocks). So I use CSI Data and give up on the fundamental info.

 

Also check how your data is exported. CSI allows exports to be proportionally back-adjusted for dividends and splits. This method corrects for splits, dividends and capital gains and never allows the prices to go negative (which AB doesn't like). By adjusting for both dividends and capital gains you don't get false signals on your indicators when the price drops by the amount of the dividend.

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Terry

-----Original Message-----
From:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Springer
Sent:
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 00:28
To:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Single Value from Array

 

Terry,

I want to thank you for the time you put into educating me. I learned a lot. I rewrote my code using what you taught me and everything worked out as it should. It was much faster, and much cleaner. Unfortunately, I haven't thought this through enough. It's looking more and more like what I want to do will simply not be possible. The code returns different values from the array, but several vary from what QP3's own software is telling me the earnings should be; even on the last earnings reported (which should be barcount-0). It gets worse the farther back in time I go. I'll have to study the problem some more. At least I learned a lot about loops and arrays!

 

Cato

Terry <MagicTH@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cato,

 

Almost.

 

EPS is an array. AB let's you access individual array elements, called bars (bar = day in a daily database), with [brackets]. So, EPS[i] is just one of the days in the database for the symbol in use. You were correct in your original assumption on that count. What you're missing is the necessity of breaking those out into separate elements since EPS already contains the values you want. Maybe an example is in order:

 

Buy = C > 10 AND ESP > 20; //A simple example that buys if Price is > $10 and EPS > 20

 

A backtest evaluates each bar (or the range of bars you select as dates to test) and it knows on each day (bar) what the values are. The EPS will change quarterly as it should. You don't really need to do anything special to make this happen.

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Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Springer
Sent:
Monday, March 20, 2006 18:49
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Single Value from Array

 

Terry,

Thank you for your excellent reply. I think you pegged me right on. I was under the impression that the [] subscript referenced only a single number from that array. But you're telling me that EPS[x] is an array as well, albeit an array with the same number repeated for however many bars. So, if I can rephrase what you wrote, I don't need EPSx, I just need EPS with the various values for i to pull the number I want to manipulate out? I can understand that, and see that what I really need is to discover the values for "i" at each change. Do I understand you correctly?

 

If so, do you have any recommendations for discovering the values for "i"? Would it be much like your first post? I imagine I would use different variables for each occurrence of a change, but I probably shouldn't start assuming again.

 

Again, your reply was very clear and clarifies a lot of questions I had. Thank you, again.

 

Cato

Terry <MagicTH@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cato,

 

I don't have QP3 so I can't get too specific, but I think you have a basic misunderstanding on how Amibroker is supposed to work. It's very common for people with coding experience to want AB to work with single values. If I'm way off on understanding your issue, my apologies!

 

AB is an array processing system. For example, you shouldn't mix arrays and single values as you have done in your Do loop. You have assigned a single value to an array with EPS0 = EPS[b-1]. So, you have assigned the same value to the entire EPS0 array. This array is the same size array as the ticker you are working with. Now you have 4 arrays, all barcount long, with the same value in each one. I think you are thinking you have an array that is one-quarter long (about 66 days), but it is not. Besides, you already have all the data in the original EPS array and it's already arranged by quarter. In abbreviated form you have this:

 

Array Values à

EPS   11111111111111122222222222222233333333333333334444444444444444

EPS0  11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

EPS1  22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222

EPS2  33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

EPS3  44444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444

 

You need to get comfortable with data being in arrays and each bar simply represents the status "as of that bar". It really works well this way. Your EPS has a value everyday. If it doesn't change for an entire quarter, you simply have the same value everyday. Then, on the day it changes, you'll have the new value for the next 66 days. On any given day you can simply refer to your EPS or Sales array and you will have the correct value. AB "knows" which day you are "on". Same answer for your original question about Ref(). It does refer to a single value -x bars in the past, it's just an array of single references so on any given day, the array "knows" the answer -x bars previously.

 

Again, sorry if I am explaining something you already know.

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Terry

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Thank you very much for replying, Terry. That's pretty much what I discovered over the weekend. Would you mind looking at my response to Bill Barnard and providing your input?

Terry <MagicTH@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Try this:

i = 0; //Start at beginning of array
do i++; while (myArray[i-1] == myArray[i])
//After this line executes, the value of i = the first changed array
element.
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-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Springer
Sent:
Monday, March 20, 2006 10:35
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Single Value from Array

 

Hi Bill,

I've figured it out, but have run into a new problem. I'm trying to get the history of EPS and Sales from the QP3 data, which are arrays. I didn't want to be this specific because I realize others don't have QP3 and I wanted to phrase my question in general terms that I think would work with all arrays. I think if you run this code on any array you should come up with the same error I got. Would you mind looking at it and giving your input?

 

EPS=GetExtraData("EPS");

b=BarCount;

i=1;

EPS0=EPS[b-1];

Sales0=Sales[b-1];

//CurrentQ-1

do

{

EPS1=EPS[b-i];

Sales1=Sales[b-i];

i++;

}

while (EPS1==EPS0 AND i<b);

//CurrentQ-2

//i=1;

do

{

EPS2=EPS[b-i];

Sales2=Sales[b-i];

i++;

}

while (((EPS2==EPS0) OR (EPS2==EPS1)) AND i<b);

//CurrentQ-3

i=1;

do

{

EPS3=EPS[b-i];

Sales3=Sales[b-i];

i++;

}

while (((EPS3==EPS2) OR (EPS3==EPS1) OR (EPS3==EPS0)) AND i<b);


There's more, but you can see the general pattern from these three. The EPS array is set up so that each bar for a quarter has the same EPS value. When a new EPS comes out, the EPS changes (ideally; since I'll only be looking at stocks where EPS increases, I don't care if the code mistakes a new EPS for an unchanged EPS). I step back through the array to search for a different EPS.

 

This code works fine, but I would prefer that "i" continues counting up rather than reseting (as I've done with the "i=1;" line before each do loop). The problem with this is that the do loop checks the condition /after/ running the "EPSx=EPS[b-i];" line. So, when it hits a stock with few bars, the code errors out with the "outside 0... (barcount-1) range" error. Is there a way to put a conditional statement in before the "EPSx=EPS[b-1];" line so that if "i" is greater than the barcount, then EPSx is null, or 0?

 

I've tried changing the "EPSx=EPS[b-i];" line to "EPSx=iif(i>b, 0, EPS[b-i];" but that still errors out. Maybe there's something more basic I'm missing.

 

Thank you, for your help.

 

Cato
Bill Barnard <wbarnard@xxxxxxx> wrote:

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeff Springer <fatboycato@xxx> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for replying, Bill, but I don't think that will
work for me. I was hoping to use the code in an exploration, and I
think this code will only give me the data in a debugger window,
correct? I tried assigning the _Trace calls to variables, and then
displaying that variable with AddColumn, but of course that doesn't
work. I'm too programming ignorant to know why.
>   
>   It seems to me that if Ref() calls up a specific value in the
array, then it shouldn't be returning an array, just that specific
value. I'm sure there's a good reason why it doesn't work this way, I
only wish I had some way of calling up a value from an array and
assigning that value, and only that value, to a variable.

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You are welcome. sorry it isn't what you need.

Ref() does produce an array, the original one shifted by a certain amount.

If you can describe what you are trying to do, very exactly, in
English, I am sure the code would not be too difficult.

 

 

 


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