Ara, 
    I have been using my swing system for about 3 
    months . I have tested thousands of variations. 
    1. the latests backtest
    has a RAR of 110% and CAR of 67% Avg Proit/loss of 
    12.4%, 61.5% winners Max Drawdown of 5.6% and expectancy of 40cents per 100$ 
    invested per day (this is my own definition) and profit factor of 
    6.64
    2. Real performance is also very good with figures 
    matching backtest in terms of win/loss ratio, as well as Avg Profit (Avg 
    profit for each trade). Max drawndown is usually worse at around 8%. I dont 
    believe 5.6% is sustainable (you got to have a bad day 
    sometime).
    3. Position Sizing is volatility based with a 
    maximum cap of 5.7% of my initial capital.  Volatility risk is at 
    0.6% of my capital. Because I trade of a lot of smallcap stocks. I also pay 
    great attention to turnovers and capitalisations and have included 
    them  in my position sizing. I dont compound my profit in my testing 
    all positions are sized based on initial capital. I have tested it with 
    compounding for interest but I think it is distorting to select systems 
    based on those figures.
    4. I find that pattern based systems usually gives 
    me better results than purely indicator based systems. In pattern based 
    system I mean systems that evaluates the relative position of price bars to 
    form pattern. I find that volume is very useful but it was initially 
    difficult to incorporate it into my system but once I have successfully 
    incorporated it. I really turbo charge my system.  Generally I find 
    swing systems are very good pattern system. but if you use standard 
    indicators to code your system. I find that it will stop working all 
    together at some point. This is when the market has changed it rhythm and 
    both tempo and the magnitude of the swing has changed. Clyde Lee's ideas 
    about swing is very good and its well worth a read on his site. Unfortuntely 
    he only uses tradestation.
    I dont scale in or out, stop is at 16%. scaling in 
    and out might be the next thing to consider.
     
     
    Paul
    
    Would like to get a poll of sorts ... for 
    expected swing trading performance. Maybe there is some information that can 
    help everyone regardless of specific system used.
     
    Primarily interested in the potential of a 
    system, any pitfalls / difficulties in implementing it after simulation 
    studies were completed... 
     
    What would make good statistical 
    info:
     
    1. Backtest performance
    2. Real performance / Any special 
    considerations in implementing
    3. Money management - scaling in/out, stops, 
    risk level...
    4. Any issues and concerns
     
    My intent / desire is NOT to delve into 
    anyone's specific system as such, so if you feel it is 
    appropriate to describe your system, please keep it at a high 
    level.
     
    I have toyed with several systems, including 
    Relative strength, combination of standard indicators (MACD, Stochastics and 
    CCI) with preliinary backtest results of 20% per year, +/- a little, 
    but have not really traded based on any system as such, certainly not with 
    any consistancy.... so no track record.
     
    I have not succesfully integrated market 
    environment in backtests yet. My next step.
     
    My hope is that I can make about 5% to 10% per 
    month using trades of 3 days to 2 weeks. I have been known to be too 
    optimistic ... at times ...
     
    Appreciate any feedback
     
    Ara