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RE: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?



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J,  I certainly don't have that problem.  i have 12 "sheets" with 4 or 5
panes on each for my IB futures trading.  one sheet has 4 charts each with
different symbols, they are all the same time frame.  I keep my RTQ below my
chart tabs, squezed as small as i can get vertically, but not minimized.
i'm also on a dialup phone connection.  when i switch from one sheet to
another, there is no delay in the updating--the data is always there.  i
have 12 symbols in the RTQ, 9 futures and 3 stocks.  When i draw a trend
line--it's right now, there is NO lag.  I'm not doing any automated trading,
nor scans or explores.

You must have something else going on in the background.  Maybe it's the 3
different time frames you have displayed at the same time.  I would try and
reduce what you have displayed, or better yet, start with a minimum set of
charts and work your way to where you are now, until you see a noticable
drop in response.

I'm looking at the Windows Task Manager/Perfomance tab, and my CPU Useage is
between 8 & 17%, with TWS standalone and AB running, connected to a phone
line via an Ethernet cable to a router and then to another computer which is
the one connected to the inet.

i couldn't live with a snail either, you need a rabbit to be faster then the
next guy..... :)
ron


-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of J. Biran
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:14 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?


I think we DO agree on the facts: when RTQ window is minimized, only the
data
for open charts is being updated.

Actually, with “Automatic backfill on first data access” disabled (in
database settings),
even with RTQ window open the same applies: only the data for open charts is
being updated.

The reason why in my case this is unsatisfactory is that for each symbol I
view,
I use 3 timeframes. Each symbol uses (only) 2 panes (price and one indicator
pane).

With this setting, when I view 2 symbols, even though Broker.exe never
consumes more than 50% of CPU power (window task manager window),
the response time of AB becomes unbearable and hardly usable for intraday
trading.

In busy market times, the delay between clicking on a tool button and it
being recognized
(the button gets selected) takes sometimes 2 seconds, and the time for the
pointer to change
into a hairline another 2 seconds.

When I try drawing a trendline, it takes forever to line up the end point to
where I want it.
Often I have to repeat and move the end point several times.


This hinders my ability to pay attention to market activity while I am
fiddling around with
drawn objects.

So, talking about opening another instance of AB is out of the question,
even though
4 symbols would have been sufficient for my needs.

My computer is fairly powerful, I have 2GB of RAM, large HDDs and a fancy
graphic card.
I do not think my indicators are particularly complex. So, this must be a
typical situation
for my circumstances.

This leads me to the conclusion that the only workable solution would be to
be able
to switch around and open new symbols in real time.

If any AB user there doing daytrading has a different experience I would
appreciate hearing about it.



Joseph Biran
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From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Terry
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:27 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?

Testing today with RT feed on: With RTQ window minimized (auto hide),
I continue to get RT quotes and my visible charts continue to be updated in
RT.
This is NOT true for charts that are not shown. However, I believe you can
open
a second main window and view a different chart sheet and they will both be
updated.
This 2nd window can be minimized or simply covered up with the other main
window.
--
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of J. Biran
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 23:58
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?


I did not mean you can not minimize the RTQ window, yes, it is physically
possible
to do of course.

But, when you do that no data is collected for any symbol in that TRQ
window!
Only the data for symbols in open chart(s) is then being saved!

Even with RTQ window open, I am not sure data is saved under all conditions.
(you can try and check the date stamp on the data files, or you can disable
auto back fill and switch between symbols looking for holes in intraday
data).

This is a not well advertised behavior of AB the reason for which I do not
understand.


Joseph Biran
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From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Terry
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:53 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?

I just tried it and was able to minimize it. At first all I saw was the
small x, but after moving it left and back again, the pushpin showed up and
now it's an auto-hiding tab at the bottom. I assume it will still update,
but can't tell now.
--
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of J. Biran
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 16:53
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?

This is really a pet peeve of mine.

I would say stocks updated means the data for all the TRQ listed symbols
is being saved to the local database in real time or a timely manner.

The purpose is to be able to switch from one symbol to another
with no delay and a full set of data points. There are only that many
symbols you can keep open charts open for before exceeding any
CPU capabilities.

Also, when using tick based data the backfill poses some limitations in its
functionality
(maybe because of IB’s restrictions).

In short, unless the data saving of a limited number of symbols is a serious
burden on AB I really do not understand the reason for this restriction.

On a positive note, there is one good reason to keep TRQ window open
(slightly),
it is monitoring that data is coming in (background of the price changes to
yellow
and moves around). I keep my RTQ window a small size vertically oriented
just to see
the Last Price of a few symbols. I have had more than one occasion that even
though
the status “light” was green, no data was registering. Only “Reconnect”
fixed it.

An ideal user friendly feature could be an built in data arrival check with
optional alarm,
and a pull down list of a user definable subset of TRQ symbols used to
switch
between symbols with no requirement to have TRQ open at all.
(the existing pull down of symbol selection list is just too long to allow
quick switching)


Joseph Biran
____________________________________________




From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:27 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?

Hello,

> All  I see is x in corner. It takes up too much space and I need all
> the stocks in it updated in RT.
What do you mean with 'stocks updated'.

If you want to have CHARTS updated - they are updated
automatically (all open charts).

If you want SCAN/ EXPLORATION / BACKTEST - you don't need
to run RTQ window. Just use "wait for backfill"

>
> When I hit the X, does it still update all the stocks?
If it was open and you close it then yes,
but what for you need to constantly update? Data is delivered on demand. If
something is missing - BACKFILL
feature is to fill the gap. (Unless you run feed that has no backfill).

BTW: did you notice "auto-hide" feature in beta? It is just "minimized
window".

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "me_rayme" <rayme9@xxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:28 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Can RTQ be minimized?


> All  I see is x in corner. It takes up too much space and I need all
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> When I hit the X, does it still update all the stocks?
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