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I realize that. But don't you think since they would not be in the same "formula" that more than 1 "core" could be utiltized?


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:16 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: AB optimized for dual core processor?

I believe TJ has already stated that the multithread setup time for
anything other than optimization makes it not worth the effort.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Im curious as to how multiple indicator windows function in terms of
> threading - could you comment on how multiple cores will or will
not affect
> their performance?

> TIA

> d

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> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Tomasz Janeczko
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:00 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AB optimized for dual core processor?
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> > "Sometime in the future" ?
> >
> > Is End of March no longer the target date for this ?
>
> No I did not mean that. I am simply more focused on delivering
> problem-free software than meeting some artificial deadlines
> but end of march is still realistic.
>
> >
> > Do you have any feel for the typical percentage run time
reductions
> > that would be experienced in optimization using dual core .vs. a
> > similar speed single core ?
>
> That depends on how long single backtest step runs but
> it should be reaching 2x with most complex formulas.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred" <ftonetti@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:19 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: AB optimized for dual core processor?
>
>
> > "Sometime in the future" ?
> >
> > Is End of March no longer the target date for this ?
> >
> > Do you have any feel for the typical percentage run time
reductions
> > that would be experienced in optimization using dual core .vs. a
> > similar speed single core ?
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
<amibroker@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> It was explained already a couple of times since October 2005
> > (search the archives).
> >> In short: if you are buying new hardware buy dual core machine.
Why?
> >> Even if apps do not use multiple threads, running 2 or more apps
> > (who runs only 1 app on Windows ???)
> >> is way smoother on dual core. You will never see
system "freezing"
> > when some program
> >> is busy processing.  For this alone it is worth buying.
> >>
> >> As for AB - it was discussed earlier. Most parts use single
thread.
> >> Some RT plugins use multiple threads (eSignal, IQFeed), AmiQuote
> > uses multiple threads,
> >> list controls use additional thread.
> >>
> >> I was making experiments on parallelization of AFL engine itself
> > but it turned
> >> out that single thread is faster because tasks are short, can be
> > highly-pipelined using proper
> >> code writing (removing jumps from assembly code) and no time is
> > wasted on context switching
> >> and thread synchronization.
> >>
> >> The only part that is suitable for SMP is optimization and it
will
> > be done sometime in the future.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Nikku" <nikku@xxxx>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:15 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] AB optimized for dual core processor?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > I am responding to my own question because I found out that
some
> > apps are
> >> >
> >> > " multithreaded SMP aware programs"
> >> >
> >> > and these are the ones that will benefit from having dual
cores.
> > Is that
> >> > correct? So I guess my question is - is AB a multithreaded SMP
> > aware program
> >> > or if not, is it likely to be one soon? Actually, I have no
idea
> > if AB is
> >> > even the type of program that needs to be a 'multithreaded SMP
> > aware
> >> > program'. I am just trying to figure out whether I should go
for
> > an AMD X2
> >> > 3800 dual core processor. I multitask a lot and I want to
> > optimize it.
> >> >
> >> > Nik
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Nikku" <nikku@xxxx>
> >> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:25 PM
> >> > Subject: [amibroker] AB optimized for dual core processor?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>
> >> >> I am building a new computer and trying to figure out which
> > processor to
> >> >> buy. My needs are obvious - run AB smoothly with streaming
data
> > and allow
> >> >> smooth multi-tasking (I like to play a CD while burning
another
> > one while
> >> >> having multiple browser and chat windows open while....)
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not a gamer at all, nor do I do anything that is video-
> > intensive.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is AB designed for or to take advantage of dual core
processors?
> > I am
> >> > asking
> >> >> without really understand the question - it is my impression
> > that the
> >> >> software you are using has to be optimized for dual core
before
> > dual core
> >> >> will make any difference for you. I am not a tech-head as you
> > can tell.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help is appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nik
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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