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Adding to Dan's comments….I was talking with CSI Data tech support. I asked how often tickers change since there have been 30-35 changes each day this year. He said this is normal and CSI has a full-time employee just to keep track of ticker changes. This does not count splits, dividends or any other db maintenance issues.

 

By the way, ticker change updates in CSI Data are currently handled -- during an update -- by adding a new ticker. This means AB now has two tickers for the same stock. The first appears to have stopped trading while the 2nd has only one day of data. Splits, on the other hand, are completely replaced with corrected data. Support told me they already have code to "fix" this issue and it just needs more testing. PS: When you do a clean export the data is correct with a single ticker representing all the data (with the new symbol).

 

Note: The above is for a database exported to AB using the combined symbol + csi_num. I don't know what happens if you use csi_num only. It may work fine since no "change" is really necessary (as the symbol is not included in this case).

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Terry

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amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Clark
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 08:54
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bject: RE: [amibroker] Database Cleanup Script - need three testers

 

Steve, I’m sorry, but I have to agree with Joe on this issue…

 

While I can’t quote the specifics that he quotes, I do this work professionally – I’m a contract Data Warehouse jock.   (Or, “Database Developer”, “Database Architect”, or whatever my customer wants my title to be.)   Please believe me…

 

Data management is at least 10 times more difficult than it first appears.   On a complexity scale, AB looks like a 10 and IS a 10.  OTOH, a big database looks like a 1 and but is EASILY a 10!

 

Although getting good data is one of my biggest concerns, I would strongly recommend that Tomasz NOT to get into this business.  If he did, it would massively impact AB development and support.

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Landry
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:21 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Database Cleanup Script - need three testers

 

Hi Steve - I must respectfully disagree on having the Amibroker group provide "Amidata."  I can't

think of a venture more fraught with losses.  I've seen FastTrack struggle over 15 years with

keeping data current and I'm now experiencing Quotes Plus micues and they struggle to keep data

current as far a fundamental metrics and distributions, splits and current prices. Most recent gaps have to do 

with staying current with Profunds data and distributions for both FastTrack and QuotesPlus.  As I'm sure you've experienced it is a manpower intensive job with so much opportunities for "oh sh_ts"  that I can't see where it would be profitable. What with all the Friday night and Sat morning hand fixes; server outages, database changes, etc. ; and selfishly speaking it would dilute the support in both existing and new functionality in AB. 


It will be interesting to hear Tomasz's views on this when he visits Houston next month.


Best regards

Joe

 

 

--- Original Message -----

From: Steve Dugas

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:15 PM

Subject: Re: [amibroker] Database Cleanup Script - need three testers

 

Hi Dan,

 

Don't think I can help much with this one - I have gone back to TC2K and Wordens are very good about keeping their DB current with regards to tickers.  BTW, Nirvana Systems( OmniTrader ) has just come out with their new OmniData/OmniScan combo in OT2006, which also uses Media General sectors/industries like TC2K - maybe TJ should seriously consider offering "AmiData"   8 - )     I'm sure he would be just as capable as anyone of buying wholesale data and repackaging for it for retail. It might be a nice steady monthly income, could be stored right in AB's native DB for optimal speed, would include fundamentals for those that like them, etc.

 

Also, your message reminded me that a while ago, you thought you might write a replacement for the DLL that scraped earnings release dates from the web. Just curious if you have followed through on that one yet? If you need any help, I would be happy to help test that one if and when the time comes !

 

Steve

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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:09 PM

Subject: [amibroker] Database Cleanup Script - need three testers

 

Hi,

 

One of the issues that we deal with is bad data from vendors.  I use QP3.   I like it and think that they provide a good product for the price.  However, some of their data is not as clean as I'd like.

 

To resolve this, I took Tomasz's "Cleanup.js" Jscript and expanded it.   It does a fair amount (see below) and improves the quality of my data.   Although I use QP3 for data, the script is NOT specific to a particular data source.  Since it operates only on the AB database, it should work with any data source or vendor.

 

This script is NOT and will NOT be for sale, but I'm willing to share it with this group IF three people will step forward and be willing to test it.   (Since it deletes symbols, it has to be clean.)  Note that I do NOT want you to test it on a live AB database, only a test AB database.

 

Any takers?

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 

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What it does:

 

- Deletes Groups of symbols for GroupIDs that you specify (e.g., Preferred Stocks", Mutual Funds, etc.)

- Deletes symbols with no quotes or stale (never changing) quotes.

- Deletes specific symbols (from an "AlwaysDelete" text file list) that you know are bad or do not want.   This is an override list.

- Never deletes specific symbols (from a "AlwaysKeep" text file list)  that you always want to keep - EVEN IF they have no quotes or are in a "Delete" group.  I.e., this is an override list.

- Keeps logs of the overall runs, deleted symbols, deleted no-quotes symbols, etc.

 

In my case, I don't want a lot of unused or bad symbols clutering up my database.   I am not interested in the thousands of Mutual Funds, Preferred Stocks, Unit, and some other non-stock symbols.  But, I am interested in a handful of Mutual fund symbols (about 30-40), stocks, ETFs and some Indexes.

 

My script deletes all symbols which meet certain criteria, including certain groups.  So all Mutual Fund (a Group) symbols are deleted UNLESS they are in the "Always Keep" list.  OTOH, QP contains some old, unused symbols like the "LE**" symbols which are NOT in a "Delete" Group but I still want to delete them. These are listed in the "Always Delete" list.  

 

Before testing it this morning, I downloaded 29,000 symbols from QP into an AB test database.  This included Stocks, Indexes, Sector/Industry assignments and Mutual Funds.   After running the script, 21,000 were deleted.

 





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