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Terry,

 

About two posts back, Tomasz responded with comments on this.   In general, I agree with him (and you, below).   Web Scraping from HTML pages can be done, but you really don’t want to depend on it.   In general, if you can get the information from a data provider, you will be far better off.    However…

 

Even data providers aren’t perfect.   Some examples:

 

·         eSignal provides intraday and EOD data.   But, AFAIK, they don’t provide much in the way of fundamental data or mapping to Sectors and Industries.   That’s based on a discussion that I had last week with their sales rep.   (eSignal users, please correct me if necessary.) 

 

·         TC2000 has both intraday and EOD price data, Sector and Industry mapping, and some fundamentals data.   But, and it’s a big but, their intraday price data and fundamentals data is NOT exposed in their API.  So AB can’t use it.   And their Sector mapping is “odd”.  They have 33 sectors, each of which has industries.  But the Sectors are not useful and don’t map very well to more established sectoring methods.  For example, they have a “Tobacco” Sector!   (I had TC2000 for a while and dropped it.)

 

·         Quotes Plus (QP3) is one of the best EOD vendors (IMO).   They provide good Sector and Industry mapping, and they expose a fairly large variety of fundamentals data to their API.    

 

However, Quotes-Plus gets their data from another provider and repackages it for our use.  They are dependent on that vendor.   This has downsides.  For example, the “Briefing” field used to contain both a short business summary (business description) and a financial summary (a paragraph or two of key financial results in the last several years).   Recently their provider split this data into to parts and the “Briefing” field now contains only a financial summary.   They have no estimate on when this will be fixed.  

 

Another issue with the QP3 data is that the Earnings Date is not really usable.  It is updated only monthly.  For me, that’s an issue.    

 

I use QP3 and like the data, but nothing’s perfect.   I’m working on a solution to pull some peripheral data off of the web and store it for use in AB.  I’d rather not do this, but the data’s not available otherwise.  I don’t recommend this for most people unless you’re a geek (like me).   I’m a programmer by profession, but it’s still a hassle.    And, as Tomasz has said, it has to be maintained.   I’m only doing this as a last resort.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:42 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Basic Fundamental Data

 

Dan,

 

Cool.

 

As you said, "I think the issue is related to the database.   I don’t think there is any place to put the data and unfortunately database modifications can be a big effort."

 

Seems easier to just get QP3 and let them do all the work for a pretty reasonable fee.

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Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Clark
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 23:08
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Basic Fundamental Data

 

Terry,

 

There’s a lot more data available.  Check this out: http://www.gummy-stuff.org/Yahoo-data.htm.  Also, you can get the estimated earnings date here:  http://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/20051111.html.     Changing the date string (last 8 characters) let’s you get to different dates.

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 9:45 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Basic Fundamental Data

 

As far as I can see, Yahoo maintains historical data in .csv format for downloading and the available columns are O-H-L-C-adj.Close-Volume.

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Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Clark
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 21:57
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Basic Fundamental Data

 

I think the issue is related to the database.   I don’t think there is any place to put the data and unfortunately database modifications can be a big effort.  

 

Currently, I’m working on a solution that downloads fundamental and other data from the web to text files.  Then AB reads and uses the data in the text files.  This isn’t for sale, but I’d be willing to share the code.

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tipequity
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:48 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Basic Fundamental Data

 

TJ

Why is it that you have not included yahoo fundamental data to AB
downloader? you already provide ability to download download pricing
data?











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