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RE: [amibroker] Tear off tabs



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Tomasz:
 
First, you know that everyone and especially me appreciate and applaud the continuous efforts you make in improving AB.  You have done this from the very start and it is wonderful.  Thanks for your explanation below.
 
Since a long time ago, several of us asked about the ability to drag individual chart windows represented by "tabs" to a different "order" at the bottom (but not to other locations on the screen).  Instead of Sheet1, Sheet2, Sheet3, someone (like me) would like to easily change to Sheet2, Sheet1, Sheet3.  This is especially useful if you have 20 or 30 tabs and would like to see Tab 29 next to Tab3 after you have done a lot of chart construction work on the tabs inbetween.  So I am not advocating moving them just anywhere, but rather an easy way to change the ORDER of the tabs without having to remake all the chart components manually.  Much (exactly) like Excel worksheets can have their "order" adjusted just by dragging the tabs at the bottom of the screen next to the scroll bar.    I understand you saying they are hardwired.  Can you conceive of an easy way to change the order like I have described, still within the confines of your code structure?  
 
But....no matter.....thanks for continued improvements which make Amibroker even better to use.
 
Ken


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:18 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tear off tabs

Hello,
 
"I immediately thought that "Tear Off Tabs" meant I could move the tabs AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WHICH SELECT PANES by dragging them.  It does not seem to be so, or else I would appreciate knowing how to do it."
 
I explained already - "tear-off tabs" applies to DOCKING PANES (these which are available via View->Symbols/Layers/Layouts/Charts/Profile/Notepad/Interpretation).
 
Tabs next to scroller bar switch charting sheets and as such are hard-wired (the same was as scroll bar) to the chart window.
It makes no sense to move them elsewhere because they BELONG to chart (to each chart window separately because
you can display differnt sheet in different chart windows).
If you moved them somewhere else - you would not know WHICH tab controls WHICH window. This would lead to complete user confusion and mess.
 
Belive me I am thinking on user interface not one minute or one hour but long days and months and come up with something that really makes sense.
 
I struggled with the draging as the "docking stickers" disappeared when I let go of the left mouse button.  The video implies they stay visible until used.  In the video, there are docking stickers at the left, right, top and bottom and a centralized set of the four.  Mine does not display a "central sticker" as shown in the video.
 
This is limitation of the video (actually RoboHelp used to produce it).
On the video the mouse just moves and there is no way to tell you that you should DRAG (i.e. PUSH MOUSE BUTTON - HOLD DOWN - MOVE - AND RELEASE in target position). 
 
It all works with DRAG operation (you move panes in DRAG-AND-DROP).
Various stickers appear depending on mouse position. Drag your mouse over screen and you will see how they change.
 
does not seem to be a way to drag an individual chart tab
 
Again - charts are NOT docking panes.
 
There are two kind of windows:
1. docking panes ( View->Symbols/Layers/Layouts/Charts/Profile/Notepad/Interpretation) - which are in SINGLE instance
    and can be docked, floated, etc.
2. CHART windows which live in MDI layout that have multiple instances. (accessible and manageable by Windows-> menu)
 
Docking panes are somewhat of extension of "toolbar" concept .
 
While chart windows represent "document" (in MS Word methaphor).
 

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Close
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Tear off tabs

Several observations and a call for help on what I am missing with some of the new features.
 
I immediately thought that "Tear Off Tabs" meant I could move the tabs AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WHICH SELECT PANES by dragging them.  It does not seem to be so, or else I would appreciate knowing how to do it.  Right now I am assuming that the "Tabs" referred to are the tabs in the panes at the left side of the screen for "Symbols", "Layers", etc.  How wonderful it would be to drag the Chart Pane Tabs to new positions.
 
I struggled with the draging as the "docking stickers" disappeared when I let go of the left mouse button.  The video implies they stay visible until used.  In the video, there are docking stickers at the left, right, top and bottom and a centralized set of the four.  Mine does not display a "central sticker" as shown in the video.
 
But...does not seem to be a way to drag an individual chart tab, but still a lot of nice improvements, esp the autohide feature that gives more screen space for the charts.
 
Thanks,
 
Ken


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:23 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Tear off tabs

Hello,
 
"Tear-off" means that you can click on tab and DRAG it somewhere...
it undocks from original pane and can be left "floating" or docked in completely different pane.
(Previously it was not possible as Symbols/Layouts/Layers/Charts were connected together
into one "workspace" pane and you were not able to move say 'charts' alone somewhere else)
 

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