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Barry,
For the CD's for the original AB101 class taught in at the FTMonitor
conference in 2004, go to www.ftmonitor.com and down the left hand
side, find the "2004 conference". Under that link, you will find the
2004 materials.
As mentioned, this talk covered basic material for beginners, but
was created before the new front end was introduced.
This spring, the material was rewritten to include the new front end
and presented to a class in Pensacola, FL. It will be repeated on
the weekends of October 8 and 29 (two 1 1/2 day classes)in Detroit,
MI. If you want more information, contact Bert Ward at (248)682-7778.
Bill
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dan Clark" <dan_public@xxxx>
wrote:
> Barry,
>
>
>
> I looked at the manual. Much of what is in primer is available
in the
> Amibroker Users Guide. Key sections would be:
>
>
>
> * Tutorial --> Amibroker Formula Language
>
> * Tutorial --> Video
>
> * AmiBroker Formula Language
>
>
>
> While I agree that it would be nice to have an AFL primer packaged
together
> like this, the effort level would be much higher than you are
projecting.
> My knowledge of the details of MetaStock is limited. Even based
on that
> limited knowledge, I can see several issues that would increase the
> projected effort by an order of magnitude:
>
>
>
> * AB and Metastock have some major differences in how they
work.
> For example, AB processes arrays. Metastock does not. That
makes direct
> comparisons difficult.
>
>
>
> * In general, AB has features that Metastock does not, and
vice
> versa. Or they have the same function, but it works
differently. For
> example, Metastock has something called the "P Variable" and
the "Security()
> Function". It appears that they do something similar to AB's
> AddToComposite function, but that's not clear. So, are they
comparable?
> Yes? No? How? How not? Answering this question alone might
take hours
> of research.
>
>
>
> * Another issue is the outline or table of contents.
What should
> be included? Excluded? What is necessary to know? What not?
What is
> important to one person might not be important to the next.
Defining this
> would the first step and it would be very difficult.
>
>
>
> * My sense of AB versus Metastock is that Metastock is more
> "polished" because it is an older product. But it looks a bit
monolithic.
> You can create functions and buy plugins, but can't really change
the way it
> operates. OTOH, AB is layered like an onion.
>
>
>
> Your first impression is charts and formulas and backtesting.
What you see
> is what you get. However, as you learn it better, you see start
seeing
> layers. If you don't like the way a "layer" works, you can
modify it.
> Take charts for example.
>
>
>
> Think of the visible chart as Layer 1. It's similar to other
packages.
> You can navigate around, change symbols, etc. But suppose certain
> indicator parameters aren't quite right.
>
>
>
> If don't like the way a chart looks, you can right-click and
change some
> parameters. This is layer 2. Simple enough and similar to other
packages.
> Don't like the parameters that you see? Change them.
>
>
>
> Let's say you don't see a parameter that you need, so you right-
click and
> select "Edit Formula". Now you are into layer 3. Layer 3 is
pretty deep.
> But you find out pretty quickly that you can do things like
creating or
> modifying your own user parameters to change styles, colors,
indicator
> periods etc. using AFL functions. So you tweak or create some
new
> parameters, save them and close the Formula Editor. Now right
click and
> your new parameters are there.
>
>
>
> In addition, in the Layer 3 function layer, you can create an
large variety
> of AFL functions that can be used for exploration, scans,
indicators.
>
>
>
> But what if that isn't enough? Well, you can use the AFL
scripting host and
> use VBScript or Jscript. Think of that as Layer 4.
>
>
>
> But suppose you need some REALLY heavy lifting. Well you create
objects
> externally or can call the Amibroker objects from an AFL script.
For
> example, I needed to set the "FullName" programmatically. That's
a simple
> call to the AB "Broker" object. Think of that as Layer 5.
>
>
>
> But there is one additional layer - AddToComposite. (Let's call
this Layer
> 6). This allows you to CREATE AND SAVE your own data.
Everything I
> described before is related to manipulating, analyzing and
displaying data.
> With AddToComposite, you create your own data. It can be
something like
> creating your own Sector indexes from your list of tradable stocks
or
> something like creating a new symbol that contains the results of a
> processed indicator for another symbol. Now you can use this
symbol like
> any other symbol!
>
>
>
> The key underlying all of this is the AB function. Everything
below Layer
> 2 is done with functions. How well does that relate to
Metastock?
>
>
>
> I think writing a quality, 100 page, AFL Primer would be a big
task. I
> think that it would take a talented person at least a month of
long days to
> do it. And that would NOT be me.
>
>
>
> Just my two cents.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Dan.
>
> _____
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Barry Seeger
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:58 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
Please Help.
>
>
>
> Yes, I agree, AmiBroker is a terrific program and good value for
money, and
> Tomasz, Marcin and the community of users, Graham in particular,
are always
> helpful and supportive.
>
>
>
> But I and others remain disappointed that we haven't been able to
learn to
> be efffective AmiBroker programmers faster. I think that a manual
along the
> lines of the MetaStock Formula Primer would give us all a leg up,
and would
> be a great addition to the material already provided by
AmiBroker. I'm
> uncomfortable about holding MS up as a model, but I know that
whenever any
> user asks about programming it, the answer is always "Read the
Formula
> Primer". The absence of an equivalent here is a serious gap for
new users of
> AB at the moment. Since a model already exists, I don't believe it
would be
> expensive to do.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Dan Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2005 1:00 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
Please Help.
>
>
>
> Not to mention a powerful, very flexible and extensible program!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of mrdavis9
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:20 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
Please Help.
>
>
>
> Another great benefit of using Amibroker is the prompt and
invaluable help
> that Graham so generously provides. Ron D
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham" <kavemanperth@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
Please Help.
>
>
> > Just keep in mind that MS is large organisation that charges a
lot
> > more money fir its program, and has been available for many
years.
> > Thus it could afford to be generous and provide an ABC of using
MS.
> > Perhaps TJ should charge $1000 for AB then employ a sawg of
people to
> > write a primer.
> > One thing you do not get for your $1000+ from the other mob is
the
> > support from the developers.
> >
> > On 8/16/05, Barry Seeger <bseeger@xxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe,
> >>
> >> Thanks, I just checked the Ft Monitor site, and I see Bill
Barack's
> >> Trading Systems 101, but nothing on AmiBroker Formula Language.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The thing people appreciate about the MetaStock Formula Primer,
available
>
> >> here:
http://www.equis.com/Customer/Resources/Formulas/Primer.aspx ,
> >>
> >> is that it focuses on the basic principles of the MetaStock
language, so
> >> it is pretty much unaffected by upgrades in the program. It's a
good
> >> model for a Formula manual.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> And you know I would hope that an AmiBroker Formula Language
manual would
>
> >> never become a best seller, because it would be available free,
as the
> >> MetaStock Formula Primer is.
> >>
> >> The fact is, it's a lot easier to learn to program MetaStock
than
> >> AmiBroker, just because of the existence of that free manual.
> >>
> >> AmiBroker needs something similar, and a very efficient
approach to
> >> writing it would be to just copy the one that works.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Barry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >
> >>
> >> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Joe Landry
> >> Sent: Monday, 15 August 2005 11:34 PM
> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
Please
> >> Help.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill Barrack from the Ohio area has taught Amibroker 101 at
various
> >> venues. He's
> >>
> >>
> >> an excellent teacher and would do a great job on the manual.
In fact his
>
> >> AB101 Camtasia videos that were
> >>
> >>
> >> produced in 2004 are probably still available at FTMonitor. I
must
> >> caution that they were
> >>
> >>
> >> produced before a major change in the indicators, like drag and
drop. (So
>
> >> there's this old
> >>
> >>
> >> version bug a boo always staring at you..how to keep the
documentation
> >> and therefore the
> >>
> >>
> >> manual current.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The big question is - would it be worth his while or anyone
else's while
> >> to produce a manual?
> >>
> >>
> >> If there was a chance of it becoming a best seller then there
would be a
> >> few folks dusting off
> >>
> >>
> >> their eyeshades and keyboards to have a go at it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> MHO
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe Landry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >>
> >> From: brseeger
> >>
> >>
> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:43 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
Please Help.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Somebody suggested that I write a manual for AB, but if I could
do
> >> that, I wouldn't be asking for it. Here is my suggestion for a
> >> quick way to do it: take the MetaStock Formula Primer, which is
> >> widely regarded as being pretty good, replace all the code with
> >> AmiBroker code, add a chapter about arrays vs loops, and put it
out
> >> here for comments and fine-tuning. That would take an AmiBroker
> >> programmer 2 days, tops. As it would be offered for free,
copyright
> >> issues with MetaStock don't apply. It would be the best 2 days
work
> >> on AmiBroker ever, because it would open AB up to many more
people
> >> who are having difficulty learning to program it, and I know
there
> >> are many of us.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxxx>
wrote:
> >> > what about the wikipedia thing, is that moving forward?
> >> >
> >> > On 8/13/05, forex5x <forex@xxxx> wrote:
> >> > > Hello Barry,
> >> > >
> >> > > I concur.
> >> > > There is a program called Camtasia, and what it does is
allow
> >> the user to
> >> > > record the screen and to speak as well. This then becomes a
> >> canned
> >> > > demonstration of how to use a system that can be available
on a
> >> web site.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.techsmith.com/products/studio/default.asp
> >> > > if you want to peek at it.
> >> > >
> >> > > If anyone is so inclined to develop a training system in
this or
> >> similar
> >> > > manner it would be worth paying for the reduction in stress
to
> >> learn.
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, if someone wanted to write a book it would be in my
> >> bookcase as soon
> >> > > as I found out about it...as far as I know there is no
> >> book...anyone know of
> >> > > one?
> >> > >
> >> > > Forex5x AKA Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> >> > > Of brseeger
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:57 PM
> >> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
> >> Please Help.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sidney Kaiser
<s9kaiser@xxxx>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
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> >> > > 8/9/2005
> >> > >
> >> > > I am also having difficulty learning to program well in
AFL, and
> >> I
> >> > > know several other people who are having the same
difficulty,
> >> some
> >> > > of whom have resorted to reading the User Guide 10 pages a
day. I
> >> > > think AmiBroker is a very good program, and I have no
association
> >> > > with any other charting package. I have used and programmed
> >> several,
> >> > > including MetaStock and WealthLab. My background is
engineering,
> >> > > including teaching at University level.
> >> > >
> >> > > The best free manual I have ever seen for novice coders is
the
> >> > > MetaStock Formula Primer, available here:
> >> > > http://www.equis.com/Customer/Resources/Formulas/Primer.aspx
> >> > >
> >> > > AmiBroker needs to create something similar to that Primer:
a
> >> step-
> >> > > by-step guide with exercises, from basics through to more
> >> advanced
> >> > > concepts, including anything unusual about the program,
e.g.,for
> >> AB,
> >> > > how to decide when array processing will suffice, and when
> >> looping
> >> > > is necessary. In my humble opinion, such a Primer is an
obvious
> >> > > omission in the otherwise excellent User Guide, Function
> >> Reference
> >> > > and other support offered by AmiBroker.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > --
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> >> > Graham
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