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RE: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems. Please Help.



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Yes, I agree, AmiBroker is a terrific program and good value for money, and Tomasz, Marcin and the community of users, Graham in particular, are always helpful and supportive.

 

But I and others remain disappointed that we haven’t been able to learn to be efffective AmiBroker programmers faster. I think that a manual along the lines of the MetaStock Formula Primer would give us all a leg up, and would be a great addition to the material already provided by AmiBroker.  I’m uncomfortable about holding MS up as a model, but I know that whenever any user asks about programming it, the answer is always “Read the Formula Primer”. The absence of an equivalent here is a serious gap for new users of AB at the moment. Since a model already exists, I don’t believe it would be expensive to do.

Barry

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Clark
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2005 1:00 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems. Please Help.

 

Not to mention a powerful, very flexible and extensible program!

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mrdavis9
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:20 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems. Please Help.

 

Another great benefit of using Amibroker is the prompt and invaluable help
that Graham so generously provides.  Ron D


----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham" <kavemanperth@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems. Please Help.


> Just keep in mind that MS is large organisation that charges a lot
> more money fir its program, and has been available for many years.
> Thus it could afford to be generous and provide an ABC of using MS.
> Perhaps TJ should charge $1000 for AB then employ a sawg of people to
> write a primer.
> One thing you do not get for your $1000+ from the other mob is the
> support from the developers.
>
> On 8/16/05, Barry Seeger <bseeger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Thanks, I just checked the Ft Monitor site, and I see Bill Barack's
>> Trading Systems 101, but nothing on AmiBroker Formula Language.
>>
>>
>>
>> The thing people appreciate about the MetaStock Formula Primer, available
>> here: http://www.equis.com/Customer/Resources/Formulas/Primer.aspx ,
>>
>> is that it focuses on the basic principles of the MetaStock language, so
>> it is pretty much unaffected by upgrades in the program. It's a good
>> model for a Formula manual.
>>
>>
>>
>> And you know I would hope that an AmiBroker Formula Language manual would
>> never become a best seller, because it would be available free, as the
>> MetaStock Formula Primer is.
>>
>> The fact is, it's a lot easier to learn to program MetaStock than
>> AmiBroker, just because of the existence of that free manual.
>>
>> AmiBroker needs something similar, and a very efficient approach to
>> writing it would be to just copy the one that works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>
>>
>> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Joe Landry
>> Sent: Monday, 15 August 2005 11:34 PM
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems. Please
>> Help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Barrack from the Ohio area has taught Amibroker 101 at various
>> venues.  He's
>>
>>
>> an excellent teacher and would do a great job on the manual.  In fact his
>> AB101 Camtasia videos that were
>>
>>
>> produced in 2004 are probably still available at FTMonitor.  I must
>> caution that they were
>>
>>
>> produced before a major change in the indicators, like drag and drop. (So
>> there's this old
>>
>>
>> version bug a boo always staring at you..how to keep the documentation
>> and therefore the
>>
>>
>> manual current.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The big question is - would it be worth his while or anyone else's while
>> to produce a manual?
>>
>>
>> If there was a chance of it becoming a best seller then there would be a
>> few folks dusting off
>>
>>
>> their eyeshades and keyboards to have a go at it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MHO
>>
>>
>> Joe Landry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: brseeger
>>
>>
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:43 PM
>>
>>
>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems. Please Help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Somebody suggested that I write a manual for AB, but if I could do
>> that, I wouldn't be asking for it.  Here is my suggestion for a
>> quick way to do it: take the MetaStock Formula Primer, which is
>> widely regarded as being pretty good, replace all the code with
>> AmiBroker code, add a chapter about arrays vs loops, and put it out
>> here for comments and fine-tuning.  That would take an AmiBroker
>> programmer 2 days, tops. As it would be offered for free, copyright
>> issues with MetaStock don't apply. It would be the best 2 days work
>> on AmiBroker ever, because it would open AB up to many more people
>> who are having difficulty learning to program it, and I know there
>> are many of us.
>>
>>
>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxxx> wrote:
>> > what about the wikipedia thing, is that moving forward?
>> >
>> > On 8/13/05, forex5x <forex@xxxx> wrote:
>> > > Hello Barry,
>> > >
>> > > I concur.
>> > > There is a program called Camtasia, and what it does is allow
>> the user to
>> > > record the screen and to speak as well.  This then becomes a
>> canned
>> > > demonstration of how to use a system that can be available on a
>> web site.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.techsmith.com/products/studio/default.asp
>> > > if you want to peek at it.
>> > >
>> > > If anyone is so inclined to develop a training system in this or
>> similar
>> > > manner it would be worth paying for the reduction in stress to
>> learn.
>> > >
>> > > Also, if someone wanted to write a book it would be in my
>> bookcase as soon
>> > > as I found out about it...as far as I know there is no
>> book...anyone know of
>> > > one?
>> > >
>> > > Forex5x AKA Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> > > Of brseeger
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:57 PM
>> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Getting Started with AFL Systems.
>> Please Help.
>> > >
>> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sidney Kaiser <s9kaiser@xxxx>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/67 - Release Date:
>> > > 8/9/2005
>> > >
>> > > I am also having difficulty learning to program well in AFL, and
>> I
>> > > know several other people who are having the same difficulty,
>> some
>> > > of whom have resorted to reading the User Guide 10 pages a day. I
>> > > think AmiBroker is a very good program, and I have no association
>> > > with any other charting package. I have used and programmed
>> several,
>> > > including MetaStock and WealthLab. My background is engineering,
>> > > including teaching at University level.
>> > >
>> > > The best free manual I have ever seen for novice coders is the
>> > > MetaStock Formula Primer, available here:
>> > > http://www.equis.com/Customer/Resources/Formulas/Primer.aspx
>> > >
>> > > AmiBroker needs to create something similar to that Primer: a
>> step-
>> > > by-step guide with exercises, from basics through to more
>> advanced
>> > > concepts, including anything unusual about the program, e.g.,for
>> AB,
>> > > how to decide when array processing will suffice, and when
>> looping
>> > > is necessary. In my humble opinion, such a Primer is an obvious
>> > > omission in the otherwise excellent User Guide, Function
>> Reference
>> > > and other support offered by AmiBroker.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
>> > >
>> > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
>> > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>> > >
>> > > For other support material please check also:
>> > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
>> > >
>> > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
>> > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>> > >
>> > > For other support material please check also:
>> > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers
>> > Graham
>> > AB-Write >< Professional AFL Writing Service
>> > Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
>> > http://e-wire.net.au/~eb_kavan/ab_write.htm
>>
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> --
> Cheers
> Graham
> AB-Write >< Professional AFL Writing Service
> Yes, I write AFL code to your requirements
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