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Graham,
I don't want to get into a pissing contest here ... or elsewhere ...
I like loops as well as the next guy and I write 'em when I need
to ... without digressing into which code does what or doesn't do
what especially since the original request was at least somewhat
ambiguous in terms of are we entering / exiting at open or close,
current bar or delayed bar ... the fact remains that the looping code
you wrote runs twice as long in an optimization as similarly written
code using strictly arrays and although this particular little afl is
nice and small and simple and probably has very few optimizables
assoicated with it ... array processing is still SIGNIFICANTLY faster
then loops and should be used where possible. Obviously I never
suggested that one should use array procesing even if it doesn't do
the job.
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxxx> wrote:
> Fred, I can understand your problem with loops making some
> optimisations longer, but you do not opt a system forever.
> There are times when standard array processing will not provide a
> solution to creating the trading system you want, and loops are
> required. In the case this thread is about there was no actual sell
> signal, using applystops instead, except for the stop loss exit. As
> this required only the original buy signal and any subsequent buy
> signals that occur afffect the stop value, then a loop had to be
used.
> Ideally using exrem, exremspan would be implemented or in my earlier
> example Flip, but again only if you can define the second end point
> after within the functions. This was not the case we were
discussing.
> So loops are the alternative to get the system to work.
> I think yu would have to agree that spending longer time optimising
is
> a better alternative to having no system at all.
>
> I will also point out, and I will add this to my signature. I
provide
> examples of how to solve the problem being asked about. There will
> generally always be alternative ways to achieve the same end as so
> often can be seen in the varied responses to questions. I also tend
to
> just type an answer into the email, occasionally resorting to
checking
> in AB only when I consider it necessary. Like in this case I needed
to
> check the bracket closures and ensure I had covered the loop
> conditions. As I provide an example only of how to do it, I leave it
> to the person to either use my suggestion and make it work for there
> particular case or ignore it in favour of someone elses method.
>
> On 8/9/05, Fred <ftonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > My comment was not about Graham's code per se ... it's fine for
loop
> > processing ... but there's no getting around the fact that loop
> > processing runs slower then array processing which SCREAMS ...
will
> > users even really notice the difference in a backtest or an
> > indicator ? no ... will they notice it in optimizations ? ... In a
> > lot of cases they will
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
<amibroker@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > I woudn't say that. Graham's code is very good (uses scalars
only)
> > and will run very fast.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Fred" <ftonetti@xxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:37 AM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Exit on first profitable open
> > >
> > >
> > > > That'll certainly work ... but it's overkill and run times
will
> > > > expand dramatically.
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > >> because an intital sell signal was not defined to enable the
use
> > of
> > > >> exrem, or other methods to exclude surplus buy signals you
> > probably
> > > >> need to use a loop method
> > > >> something along these lines
> > > >>
> > > >> buy = conditions;
> > > >> Sell = 0;
> > > >> intrade = 0;
> > > >> holdO = Null;
> > > >>
> > > >> for(i=1;i<BarCount;i++)
> > > >> {
> > > >> if( Buy[i] AND intrade[i-1]==0 )
> > > >> {
> > > >> intrade[i] = 1;
> > > >> HoldO[i] = O[i];
> > > >> }
> > > >> else
> > > >> {
> > > >> intrade[i] = intrade[i-1];
> > > >> HoldO[i] = HoldO[i-1];
> > > >> }
> > > >> if( O[i] > HoldO[i] AND intrade[i-1])
> > > >> {
> > > >> Sell[i] = 1;
> > > >> Intrade[i] = 0;
> > > >> }
> > > >> else
> > > >> {
> > > >> Sell[i] = 0;
> > > >> }
> > > >> }
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 8/9/05, Fred <ftonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > > >> > The example I provided would of course be for same day
trading
> > on
> > > > the
> > > >> > buy side ... If what you want is delayed a bar because you
are
> > > > buying
> > > >> > on the Open of the following bar then it would be one bar
less
> > > > i.e.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sell = O > Ref(O, -(BSB - 1));
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If this doesn't work for you then you need to be more
specific
> > > > about
> > > >> > exactly what is happening and how that compares with what
you
> > are
> > > >> > after.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Peter" <pa299@xxxx>
wrote:
> > > >> > > Fred
> > > >> > > Thanks but been there.
> > > >> > > As I understand it BarsSince(Buy); will return the bars
to
> > the
> > > > last
> > > >> > Raw
> > > >> > > buy signal. You may have the actual Buy entry then one or
> > more
> > > >> > other buy
> > > >> > > signals which are ignored ( assuming you include the line
> > > >> > > Buy=ExRem(Buy,Sell);) then the sell signal. BarsSince
(Buy);
> > will
> > > >> > return
> > > >> > > the bars to last Buy signal not the one where you
entered the
> > > >> > trade.
> > > >> > > That's the bit I can't solve.
> > > >> > > Peter
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> > On
> > > >> > > Behalf Of Fred
> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, 9 August 2005 7:38 a.m.
> > > >> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Exit on first profitable open
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Assuming you have an impulse type buy i.e.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Buy = Cross(X, Y);
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > then ...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > BSB = BarsSince(Buy);
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > ... should give you how many bars it's been since the buy
> > > >> > occured ...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Then assuming that you also bought at an opening ...
then ...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Sell = O > Ref(O, -BSB);
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Peter" <pa299@xxxx>
wrote:
> > > >> > > > Hi
> > > >> > > > After spending a huge amount of time trying to code an
> > `Exit
> > > > on
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > first profitable open' I give up.
> > > >> > > > Is anyone willing to share the code for what should be
a
> > very
> > > >> > simple
> > > >> > > > exit?????
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Any help would be appreciated!!
> > > >> > > > Peter
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
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> > > >> --
> > > >> Cheers
> > > >> Graham
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