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From: mrdavis9 [mailto:mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:27 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
TJ said>Only checking e-mail headers reveals that e-mail is spoofed, but
what percentage of people look in the headers? The rest is trustfully
opening an e-mail that looks like it was from me
Ron D's reply>Is it programatically impossible for yahoo to create a filter
that would check the sender against the list of known members, and filter
out all of those sent from non-member email addresses?
If this kind of filter is actually possible to create, then maybe Dingo can
create it and give it to Yahoo to use. Ron D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
>
> >
> > Hi TJ / All,
> >
> > Just felt the urge to add my 2 cents because I agree with Herman and
Corey
> > on both points:
> >
> > 1. Re trimming messages - I know that some people have problems with
long
> > messages, but I would suggest that, at least where people are posting
> > code/formulas for someone, please leave the original request intact so
we
> > can tell what the code is for without having to track down the original
> > e-mail.
>
> Sorry but I don't understand. According to my knowledge messages are NOT
trimmed by Yahoo.
>
> If someone, when replying, decides to trim the past correspondence
manually, it is his/her choice.
>
> >
> > 2. I miss the attachments also. On the one hand, I understand TJ's
desire to
> > maintain a high-quality list that people feel safe about joining. On the
> > other hand, we are missing out on a major component of the list which,
to my
> > mind at least, is far superior to going to the boards all the time.
After
> > weighing the pro's and con's, it seems to me that the attachments should
be
> > turned back on. It does seem hard to believe there are still people out
> > there that are not aware of the dangers, or still refuse to use a
quality
> > anti-virus product (there are even free ones out there!). At the risk of
> > sounding harsh, it is probably time they learned one way or the other.
> > People also have the option of not opening *any* attachment from this
group
> > if they so choose, while those who protect their computer responsibly
and
> > wish to assume the risk would be able to do so.
>
> Yes we can try to re-enable. But the problem is not only about the viruses
itself,
> but rather about the way it is sent. A couple of attacts used spoofed
e-mail addresses
> and the messages appeared (at first look) to be from legitimate users of
this list
> including me. Only checking e-mail headers reveals that e-mail is spoofed,
but
> what percentage of people look in the headers? The rest is trustfully
opening an e-mail
> that looks like it was from me.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 1:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
>
>
>
> >
> > 2. I miss the attachments also. On the one hand, I understand TJ's
desire to
> > maintain a high-quality list that people feel safe about joining. On the
> > other hand, we are missing out on a major component of the list which,
to my
> > mind at least, is far superior to going to the boards all the time.
After
> > weighing the pro's and con's, it seems to me that the attachments should
be
> > turned back on. It does seem hard to believe there are still people out
> > there that are not aware of the dangers, or still refuse to use a
quality
> > anti-virus product (there are even free ones out there!). At the risk of
> > sounding harsh, it is probably time they learned one way or the other.
> > People also have the option of not opening *any* attachment from this
group
> > if they so choose, while those who protect their computer responsibly
and
> > wish to assume the risk would be able to do so.
> >
> > TJ, do you think we could try the attachments again at some point? I'm
sure
> > no one wants to stick you with monitoring every individual e-mail, but
> > perhaps the people who are targeting this list will eventually move on
to
> > something more constructive, or at least find another target. Thanks for
> > listening!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> You have no idea how many virus attacks / spam hit this list
> >> simply because someone (me and Marcin) take care about this
> >> so it does not appear at all.
> >> Take a look at other (popular) Yahoogroups and you will see the
> >> difference.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Corey Saxe" <res1wgwl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 5:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I think that its about time for TJ to allow attachments, too.
> >>>
> >>> If someone can't figure out how to procure and operate serious
anti-virus
> >>> software to function in today's world, it's doubtful if
> >>> they could ever successfully integrate and operate AB.
> >>>
> >>> Dumbing-down the list is unnecessary.
> >>>
> >>> -CS
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Herman van den Bergen
> >>> To: AmiBroker YahooGroups
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:55 AM
> >>> Subject: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what others think about this but i find many posts
becoming
> >>> useless because they have been trimmed to "save bandwidth" and/or are
> >>> incomplete. I may see interesting posts but because earlier text has
> >>> been
> >>> removed they have essentially become noise to me. Of course the loss
of
> >>> attachments is a major blow as well.
> >>>
> >>> I really miss the complete (uncut) posts we had before, they were a
joy
> >>> to
> >>> read - we no longer have continuity in many topics and i don't have
> >>> time to
> >>> search/browse/follow-links to find out what it is all about.
Everybody,
> >>> please make an effort to make your posts a stand-alone item, i.e.
> >>> include
> >>> earlier text or copy relevant earlier-text to your post to make it
> >>> meaningful on its own.
> >>>
> >>> I bet many of you, just like me, are missing out on many wonderful
ideas
> >>> and
> >>> applications that were reduced to noise in the pursuit of brevity and
> >>> bandwidth.
> >>>
> >>> It is not a sin to use bandwidth if it helps you to get the point
across
> >>> or
> >>> make things more clear for the reader!!!!
> >>>
> >>> many thanks,
> >>> herman.
> >>>
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