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[amibroker] Re: Several questions



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Hello,

See this post:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/63015

When using eSignal mixed mode, last 120 days are filled with intraday data and when you switch
to "Daily" intraval those bars are generated by time-compression of intraday
bars. Exact results of time compression depends whenever you have
pre/after hours data viewing turned on or off and depends on
your start/end time settings in File->Database Settings->Intraday Settings.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "danielwardadams" <danielwardadams@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:18 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Simple question


> It appears that backtesting against both Yahoo and eSignal databases 
> outside the 120 eSignal intraday range gives results that are very 
> similar (but not identical). Outside the 120 day range, I also see 
> the OHLC are the same on the charts for both databases (spot checking 
> only).
> 
> Within the 120 range, however, the OHLC show differently within the 
> daily charts and it appears the eSignal values might be taken from 
> sometime in the last hour of trading (?). It is within the 120 range 
> that the backtest buy and sell points start to diverge.
> 
> I could probably dig deeper but I have to leave for an appointment.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> Once I get inside the intraday range, 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "ed" <ed2000nl@xxxx> wrote:
> > you can simply test what the problem could be. Do a backtest over a 
> limited period and compare the trades. 
> > 
> > One thing that could have gone wrong is that you pad with the same 
> symbol (see AA, settings, Pad and align data). 
> > 
> > But in general to find what the problem could be you have to start 
> comparing the trades you get for the different databases and go from 
> there,
> > 
> > rgds, Ed
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: danielwardadams 
> >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >   Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:39 PM
> >   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Simple question
> > 
> > 
> >   Does anybody else have problems getting comparable results doing 
> >   daily backtests of the same stocks with the same strategy, 
> period, 
> >   and settings using the Yahoo and eSignal databases?
> > 
> >   I just tried another period (365 days) and although the number of 
> >   trades was comparable (407 versus 443), the annual returns aren't 
> >   even close (212.97% versus 72.09%).
> > 
> >   Would somebody please shed some light on these descrepancies.
> > 
> >   Dan
> > 
> >   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "danielwardadams" 
> >   <danielwardadams@xxxx> wrote:
> >   > If I backtest the same portfolio of (approx 50) stocks with 
> exactly 
> >   > the same strategy and settings over the same period of time, 
> >   > shouldn't I expect fairly comparable results with both the 
> Yahoo 
> >   and 
> >   > eSignal EOD databases?
> >   > 
> >   > I would expect them to be close (acknowledging things like 
> splits 
> >   and 
> >   > data errors might be handled differently), but my results 
> aren't 
> >   even 
> >   > close.
> >   > 
> >   > One test from August 1999 to date gave the following results.
> >   > 
> >   > Yahoo:   Annual return = 66.71%, number of trades = 2287.
> >   > eSignal: Annual return = 52.05%, number of trades = 3977.
> >   > 
> >   > Although the eSignal data costs $$$, frankly I think I trust 
> the 
> >   > Yahoo data more. I've reported problems with the determinism of 
> the 
> >   > eSignal data before and haven't gotten any satisfactory 
> feedback. 
> >   > (Example: Not forcing backfill on all stocks to the same date 
> even 
> >   > though the data does exist). 
> >   > 
> >   > Which data should I believe? Or, maybe, are both sets of data 
> okay 
> >   > and it's a matter of the backtest code not working properly? 
> >   > Backtesting is the ONLY reason I want to use Amibroker but I'm 
> >   about 
> >   > ready to give up on it.
> >   > 
> >   > I'd be interested in anybody else's experiences on either data 
> >   > reliability or backtest reliability/determinism.
> >   > 
> >   > Dan
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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