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<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I don't recall that - Having one of those days
today.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>One thing that I've been doing is putting my live trading
system on a second computer where I run the formula in AB via
automation. The program then exports the results from AB to a shared
file with my main computer and on the main computer I have a small app the reads
that file and puts up a very small window that's "always on top" that keeps me
aprised of what's going on signal wise. It has some safeguards built in as well
- no file update in so many mins and changes color to alert me that something
needs attention.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I found the above technique necessary in order to do
automation development on my main system. If I were to try to run both on
the same computer I couldn't since any prog I ran with autmation would grab the
wrong instance and screw it up.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Just some FYI info for you.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>d
From: Herman van den Bergen
[mailto:psytek@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:46
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker]
Does your Esignal data match your QP2 data???
I'll
be using a shared file system... i think you were the one to suggest some afl
code for that earlier :-)
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>herman
<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: dingo
[mailto:dingo@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:17
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE:
[amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???Importance: High
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>H:
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'd be interested in what you do as a final solution on
this.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Also, are you trading your EOD signals
presently?
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>d
From: Herman van den Bergen
[mailto:psytek@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:14
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE:
[amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thank you Tomasz, if indeed your solution gives a better
match then this is a big step forward, I found differences as high as
0.9% in my first sample of only 20 bars and the
differences covered each of OHLC. Yes i have the Esignal app
installed and will check it out, however I may just have to go my own way
on this problem and that is OK.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>wrt to system sensitivity (thank you for the warning), i was
wondering how long it would take for somebody to bring that up
;-) But this is altogether another topic with probably as
many views as we have traders :-)
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I appreciate you taking the time to look into the EOD/RT data
problem,
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>best regards,
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>herman
<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Tomasz Janeczko
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:26
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re:
[amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???Importance: High
Herman,
One off-side comment: if the system is so
sensitive that 0.04%...0.15% difference in daily prices makes it
non-working
it may be extremely risky to trade it.
As for the plugin:
I have just made the experiment and modified
the plugin so it does not get Form-T records.
Unfortunatelly
some differences in data still remain.
Do you have eSignal own app installed ? You may take a
look at hourly chart and see that close of last hourly
bar in a day not always equals to close of daily bar.
Let's take a look at AAPL yesterday 3/15 in eSignal's
own application:
Daily Close 26.45
<> Close of last hourly bar
(15:00-16:00) 26.48
The difference is 0.03 (0.11%)
Best regards,Tomasz
Janeczkoamibroker.com
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----- Original Message -----
<DIV
>From:
Herman van den
Bergen
To: <A
title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004
7:49 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Does
your Esignal data match your QP2 data???
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tomasz, I recognize there may not be an easy way and it is not
your responsibility to solve it; it will be up to the individual user
to develop a custom solution.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The problem faced is simply that many traders have designed and
traded systems using standard EOD data for years, systems that may not
(in my case they do not) work with RT-Compressed data. This
is a problem of the times and i am not blaming anybody for
it.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<SPAN
class=453413718-16032004>I posted my solution last week wrt
another topic: I will run two instances of AB (RT&EOD)
and share an information file between them. Not a nice solution but i
cannot think of a better one. Perhaps we could spawn an EOD
AmiBroker version from an RT AmiBroker version and pass data from
one to the other...
<SPAN
class=453413718-16032004>
<SPAN
class=453413718-16032004>Best
regards,
<SPAN
class=453413718-16032004>Herman.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Tomasz Janeczko
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004
1:29 PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject:
Re: [amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???Importance: High
Hello,
Of course it is possible - using time-compressed
data.
But we should agree that daily data created by
compression of intraday data
are perfectly valid - in fact they represent
_ALL_ actual trades.
Best regards,Tomasz
Janeczkoamibroker.com
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----- Original Message -----
<DIV
>From:
<A title=dingo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">dingo
To: <A
title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004
7:14 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Does
your Esignal data match your QP2 data???
<FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So, in your opinion is it possible
to do what Herman is trying to do ie work on intraday stops, etc
but use EOD signals?
<FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>d
From: Tomasz Janeczko
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 16,
2004 1:05 PMTo: <A
href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject:
Re: [amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???
Herman,
This would lead to much bigger problems than
you think. Now daily (compressed) data in intraday database
match intraday data.
This allows to use multiple time frames and
price levels in different time frames match each
other.
With your suggestion implemented you will
have daily data that do not match intraday data. In other
words
your single formula would operate
on different data and generate different
signals.
Right now if you calculate highest from
intraday it is also highest from daily (compressed)
data.
With your approach this would not work.
Best regards,Tomasz
Janeczkoamibroker.com
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----- Original Message -----
<DIV
>From:
Herman
van den Bergen
To: <A
title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 16,
2004 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker]
Does your Esignal data match your QP2 data???
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thank you Tomasz and others for all your
comments however I really think i understand ALL the
issues and i am NOT arguing with any of them. The problem has
been confirmed: I am not seeking an explanantion; i am seeking
a practical solution.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The differences appear in all price
fields (OHLC) and seem to exceed that which may be caused by
Form-T trades so there is no garantee that adding a Form-T
filter would solve the problem. If it is an easy test we
could try but perhaps the effort would be better spend on
development of a function that allows us to access both the
eSignal EOD and eSignal RT DB from the same code. I know this
will introduce other problems however i think we can code
around those.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Best regards,
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>herman
<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----From: Tomasz Janeczko
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 16,
2004 11:11 AMTo:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [amibroker]
Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???Importance: High
Herman,
TimeFrameGetPrice as any other timeframe funciton
COMPRESSES data.
In your case it creates DAILY bars from intraday data.
Those intraday data contain
ALL trades, while EOD records published by NASDAQ do
NOT include all trades.
Hence the difference.
As Jayson pointed out this is by nasdaq regulation and
you may only wish NOT to receive Form-T
in intraday data - this is doable but would require
changing the plugin to REMOVE Form-T records
from intraday data.
Best regards,Tomasz
Janeczkoamibroker.com
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>
----- Original Message -----
<DIV
>From:
<A title=psytek@xxxxxxxx
href="">Herman van den Bergen
To: <A
title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March
16, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: RE:
[amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hello Jayson, I think everybody
misses the point.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As my subject line indicates I
found a significant difference between eSignal/QP2
EOD and eSignal RT data. Initially this was denied, now it
is explained.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The point I made and that is
missed by most readers remains exactly the same: the data
differs significantly and you cannot convert short term
EOD systems to RT and expect the same results. BTW, I
trade NASDAQ exclusively and wouldn't think of changing,
also pre/after hours data is NOT included in the
comparison.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>AmiBroker does not let you access
separate EOD and RT databases from one program (as far as
I know) so it is impossible to convert complicated code
that took years to develop and is based on EOD-quality
data to an RT environment. This means that EOD short-term
traders will not be able to optimize Stops,
Targets and Limit orders with adding RT data; using that
type of orders will give you unrealistic results in EOD
backtesting. The only solution i can think of is
to maintain two databases and develop some form of
communication between the RT and EOD instances of AB
(Composites don't work because they reside in different
DBs).
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>After going around in circles a few
times my original question has been answered: eSignal
RT OHLC data retrieved using <FONT color=#0000ff
size=2>TimeFrameGetPrice() is NOT the same as
eSignal or QP2 EOD OHLC data. The reason
for this is irrelevant, the fact stands and causes
problems in system design and conversion from EOD to RT.
Now that this has been confirmed I have to find a way
to work around/with it.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thank you for your comments
Jason,
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>best regards,
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>herman.
<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----From: Jayson
[mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday,
March 16, 2004 10:11 AMTo:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE:
[amibroker] Does your Esignal data match your QP2
data???Importance: High
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Herman,
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think Tomasz hit the nail on the
head. Are you finding the errors to be in Nasdaq stocks
only? You will not match exactly RT and EOD
because of nasdaq rules. But the real question is, are
they errors? I would say no, they are accurate
reflections of the nasdaq rules. RT data by design is a
zoomed in snapshot of what actually occurred during the
trading day and does in fact include trades that the EOD
numbers do not see. Did those trades not happen? Of
course they did and of course they will be reflected in
the decisions of RT traders during the after hours
session and again tomorrow in the pre market. Personally
I hate the pre and after markets as they just muddy of
the waters but nasdaq has them and if you plan to trade
RT data you have to learn to live with it. An
alternative would be to avoid the Nasdaq stocks for your
system testing
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,
Jayson
<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----From: Herman van den Bergen
[mailto:psytek@xxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March
16, 2004 9:13 AMTo:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE:
[amibroker] Does your eSignal data match your QP2
data???
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=796213912-16032004><SPAN
class=796213912-16032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>see also my inline response to
Tomasz...
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=796213912-16032004><SPAN
class=796213912-16032004>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=796213912-16032004><SPAN
class=796213912-16032004>I challenge
anybody to produce code that extracts EOD OHLC
prices from eSignal RT that "reasonable accurate"
matches either eSignal EOD or QP2 data.
<FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Considering the trend of
EOD traders moving into RT this is an important topic;
nobody wants to throw out working EOD trading systems
that took years to develop; the idea is to improve
existing EOD systems with RT data, not to start
from scratch developing new systems.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> <SPAN
class=796213912-16032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT
face=Arial>The TimeFrameGetPrice() doesn't seem
to help here (see code posted
earlier). We
may need a way to switch from eSignal
RT or eSignal EOD on the fly. The only
alternative I see is to run two AB
instances and use custom files to share data between
them. This means forever synchronizing two code versions
for each system, maintain two databases, and develop
additional data-sharing code. All this work is a very
discouraging thought. If you have a better idea I'd like
to hear from you.
<SPAN
class=796213912-16032004>
If
somebody proves me wrong (wouldn't be the first time) I
will humbly and publicly post a retraction and
apology.
<SPAN
class=796213912-16032004>
<SPAN
class=796213912-16032004>best
regards,
<SPAN
class=796213912-16032004>herman
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