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Corey,
 
Thank you for sharing....
 
I notice at the bottom of the formula....you have a 
Param() for RSI lookback Divisor....since it is not assigned, I do not believe 
it serves any purpose at this time...is this correct ?
 

T=SmoothPeriod/Param<FONT 
size=2>("SmoothPeriod 
Divisor",<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>1,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>1,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>5,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>0.1);
T2=T/4<FONT 
size=2>;
Param("RSI Lookback 
Divisor",<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>4,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>1,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>15,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
size=2>0.1);// Not assigned
 
Anthony
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  Corey 
  Saxe 
  To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 5:03 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Determining 
  cycles
  
  Anthony,
   
  Here (attachment and below) is an example of RSI driven by 
  Hilbert cycle periods. As you can tell, I'm not done with this formula 
  either.
   
  Note that the Hilbert transform part of the cycle period 
  formula is different. I have found that over time Ehlers has made different 
  versions. I collect them like beer bottles and test them for accuracy and 
  response... like beer.
   
  -CS
   
  /* 
  ---------------------------------------------------------- 
  Adaptive RSI w/Hilbert Cycle 
  Period
  AFL conversion by Corey Saxe
  <FONT color=#000000 
  size=2>---------------------------------------------------------- 
  */
  SetBarsRequired( 
  100000, 0 );
  Prices =(<FONT 
  color=#ff0000>H+<FONT 
  color=#ff0000>L)/<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2;
  Smoother = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0; Detrender = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0;
  I1 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>; I2 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  Q1 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>; Q2 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  jI = 0<FONT 
  size=2>; jQ = 0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  X1 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>; X2 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  Y1 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>; Y2 = 0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  Re = 0<FONT 
  size=2>; Im = 0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  Period = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0;SmoothPeriod=<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1;
  CU=0<FONT 
  size=2>; CD=0<FONT 
  size=2>;
  pi = 4<FONT 
  size=2> * atan(<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1) ;
   
  for (i = 6; 
  i<BarCount; i++)
  {
  Smoother[i] = (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>4*Prices[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>3*Prices[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1]+ <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2*Prices[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2]+ Prices[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>3])/<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>10;
  Detrender[i] = (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*Smoother[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*Smoother[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*Smoother[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>4] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*Smoother[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>6]) * (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.075*Period[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.54<FONT 
  size=2>);
  //{Compute InPhase AND Quadrature 
  components}
  Q1[i] = (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*Detrender[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*Detrender[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*Detrender[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>4] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*Detrender[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>6])*(<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.075*Period[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.54);
  I1[i] = Detrender[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>3<FONT 
  size=2>];
  //{advance the phase of I1 AND Q1 by 90 
  degrees}
  jI[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*I1[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*I1[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*I1[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>4] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*I1[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>6] * (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.075*Period[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.54);
  jQ[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*Q1[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*Q1[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.5769*Q1[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>4] - <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.0962*Q1[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>6] * (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.075*Period[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.54<FONT 
  size=2>);
  //{Phasor addition to equalize amplitude due 
  to quadrature calculations (AND 3 bar averaging)}<FONT 
  size=1>
  I2[i] = I1[i] - jQ[i];
  Q2[i] = Q1[i] + jI[i];<FONT 
  color=#008000 size=1>
  //{Smooth the I AND Q components before 
  applying the discriminator}
  I2[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.2*I2[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.8*I2[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  Q2[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.2*Q2[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.8*Q2[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1<FONT 
  size=2>];
  //{Homodyne 
  Discriminator}
  //{Complex Conjugate 
  Multiply}
  X1[i] = I2[i]*I2[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  X2[i] = I2[i]*Q2[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  Y1[i] = Q2[i]*Q2[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  Y2[i] = Q2[i]*I2[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  Re[i] = X1[i] + Y1[i];
  Im[i] = X2[i] - Y2[i];<FONT 
  color=#008000 size=1>
  //{Smooth to remove undesired Cross 
  products}
  Re[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.2*Re[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.8*Re[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  Im[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.2*Im[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.8*Im[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1<FONT 
  size=2>];
  //{Compute Cycle 
  Period}
  if<FONT 
  size=2> (Im[i] != 0 
  AND Re[i] != <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0) Period[i] = (<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2*pi)/<FONT 
  color=#b300b3>atan<FONT 
  size=2>(Im[i]/Re[i]);
   
  if<FONT 
  size=2> (Period[i] > 1.5<FONT 
  size=2>*Period[i-1]) 
  Period[i] = 1.5<FONT 
  size=2>*Period[i-1<FONT 
  size=2>];
   
  if<FONT 
  size=2> (Period[i] < 0.67<FONT 
  size=2>*Period[i-1]) 
  Period[i] = 0.67<FONT 
  size=2>*Period[i-1<FONT 
  size=2>];
   
  if<FONT 
  size=2> (Period[i] < 6<FONT 
  size=2>) Period[i] = 6<FONT 
  size=1>;
   
  if<FONT 
  size=2> (Period[i] > 50<FONT 
  size=2>) Period[i] = 50<FONT 
  size=1>;
  Period[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.2*Period[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.8*Period[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1<FONT 
  size=2>];
  //End Hilbert Cycle 
  Period-----------------------------------------------<FONT 
  size=1>
  SmoothPeriod[i] = <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.33 * Period[i] + <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.67 * SmoothPeriod[i-<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1];
  }
  /*
  'x=int(0.5 * SmoothPeriod(i))
  ' for n = 1 To int(0.5 * 
  SmoothPeriod(i))
   
  ' if Close(n) > Close(n-1) 
then
  ' CU(n) = CU(n-1) + ( Close(n) - Close(n-1) 
  )
  ' End if
  'if Close(n) < Close(n-1) then
  ' CD(n) = CD(n-1) + ( Close(n-1) - Close(n) 
  )
  'End if
  'if (CU(n) + CD(n)) <> 0 
  then
  ' RSIh(n) = (100 * ( CU(n)) /( CU(n) + CD(n) ) 
  )
  ' End if
  'Next
  */
  T=SmoothPeriod/<FONT 
  color=#b300b3>Param(<FONT 
  color=#0000ff>"SmoothPeriod Divisor",<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>5,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.1);
  T2=T/4<FONT 
  size=2>;Param(<FONT 
  color=#0000ff>"RSI Lookback Divisor",<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>4,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>15,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0.1);
  mo = Prices-<FONT 
  color=#b300b3>Ref<FONT 
  size=2>(Prices,-T2);
  Up = <FONT 
  color=#b300b3>IIf( mo><FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0, mo, <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0);
  Dn = <FONT 
  color=#b300b3>IIf( mo<<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0, -mo, <FONT 
  color=#4b0082>0);
  Ut = <FONT 
  color=#b300b3>AMA(Up,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2/(<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2*T));
  Dt = <FONT 
  color=#b300b3>AMA(Dn,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2/(<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>2*T));
  RSIt=<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>100<FONT 
  size=2>*(Ut/(Ut+Dt));
  GraphXSpace<FONT 
  size=2>=5;
  Plot<FONT 
  size=2>(RSIt,"RSI-Hilbert",0,1);<FONT 
  face=Verdana color=#b300b3 size=1>
  Plot<FONT 
  face=Verdana>(RSI<FONT 
  face=Verdana>(LastValue<FONT 
  face=Verdana>(Smoothperiod)),"LastValue 
  RSI",1<FONT 
  face=Verdana>,1<FONT face=Verdana 
  size=1>);
  Plot(T,"Smoothed 
  Cycle Period",2,1|<FONT 
  face=Verdana>styleOwnScale);
  UT=<FONT 
  color=#b300b3>Param(<FONT 
  color=#0000ff>"Threshold",<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>70,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>50,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>100,<FONT 
  color=#4b0082>1<FONT 
  size=2>);
  PlotGrid<FONT 
  size=2>(UT,0);
  PlotGrid<FONT 
  size=2>(100-UT,0);
   
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
  >
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    >From: 
    Anthony 
    Faragasso 
    To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 4:28 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: 
    Determining cycles
    
    Corey,
     
    How do you use this formula with other 
    indicators....could you give us an example.....
     
    Thank you
    Anthony
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    >
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV 
      >From: 
      Corey 
      Saxe 
      To: <A 
      title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:24 
      AM
      Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: 
      Determining cycles
      
      Chuck,
       
      One of the things that I was working on is an improved 
      "smoother" (Smoother2) for the input data to the Hilbert transform (TASC 
      v18:11) rather that Ehlers smoother (Smoother1). As you can see I was 
      trying out Tillson's T3 smoother, and "Periods2" is just the amount of 
      periods of smoothing that T3 is using. "Smoother2" is the T3 output for 
      use in the rest of the formula. "a" is simply the "Hot" input parameter 
      for use in T3. Note that I am using TEMA and not EMA as the original T3 
      suggests. (BTW, I tripped over a TASC V19:6 article by Steve Burns that 
      describes an adaptive T3 to boot.)
       
      Yes, I undestand that the formula should be able to 
      accurately find cycles down to a period of 6 days but using a quick 
      and dirty test using a synthetic waveform (Sine Wave Test in the formula), 
      I found odd fluctuations in cycle period output below 9 days. I am still 
      working on a resolution for it.
       
      Smoother1 is the native smoother from Ehlers original 
      formula. Smoother2 is my replacement of it by T3.
       
      The formula that I sent for Ara is just one of many 
      rough test examples, not yet ready for prime time. Ara and 
      everyone are free to twist and tweak it as they please. When I am 
      confident of the accuracy of its output (and the accuracy of my 
      translation and AFL coding), I would be happy to share.
       
      Below is the EasyLanguage (Ha!) formula I derived from. 
      
       <FONT face=Arial 
      size=1>
      { 
      —————————————————————————————
      HilbertPeriod 
      (Function) by John Ehlers (7/22/00)
      This is the 
      Hilbert Cycle Period Function used by the Hilbert Channel
      Breakout 
      System.
      <FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 
      size=2>————————————————————————————— }
      Inputs: 
      Price(numeric);
      Vars: Smoother(0), 
      Detrender(0), I1(0), Q1(0), jI(0), jQ(0),
      I2(0),Q2(0), 
      X1(0), X2(0), Y1(0), Y2(0), Re(0), Im(0), Period(0);
      If CurrentBar 
      >5 then begin
      Smoother = 
      (4*Price + 3*Price[1] + 2*Price[2] + Price[3])/10;
      Detrender = 
      (.25*Smoother + .75*Smoother[2] - .75*Smoother[4]
      - 
      .25*Smoother[6])*(.046*Period[1] + .332);
      {Compute InPhase 
      and Quadrature components}
      Q1 = 
      (.25*Detrender + .75*Detrender[2] - .75*Detrender[4] -
      <FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 
      size=2>.25*Detrender[6])*(.046*Period[1] + .332);
      I1 = 
      Detrender[3];
      {advance the phase 
      of I1 and Q1 by 90 degrees}
      jI = .25*I1 + 
      .75*I1[2] - .75*I1[4] - .25*I1[6];
      jQ = .25*Q1 + 
      .75*Q1[2] - .75*Q1[4] - .25*Q1[6];
      {Phasor addition 
      to equalize amplitude due to quadrature calculations
      (and 3 bar 
      averaging)}
      I2 = I1 - 
      jQ;
      Q2 = Q1 + 
      jI;
      {Smooth the I and 
      Q components before applying the discriminator}
      I2 = .15*I2 + 
      .85*I2[1];
      Q2 = .15*Q2 + 
      .85*Q2[1];
      {Homodyne 
      Discriminator}
      {Complex Conjugate 
      Multiply}
      X1 = 
      I2*I2[1];
      X2 = 
      I2*Q2[1];
      Y1 = 
      Q2*Q2[1];
      Y2 = 
      Q2*I2[1];
      Re = X1 + 
      Y1;
      Im = X2 - 
      Y2;
      {Smooth to remove 
      undesired cross products}
      Re = .2*Re + 
      .8*Re[1];
      Im = .2*Im + 
      .8*Im[1];
      {Compute Cycle 
      Period}
      If Im <> 0 
      and Re <> 0 then Period = 360/ArcTangent(Im/Re);
      If Period > 
      1.5*Period[1] then Period = 1.5*Period[1];
      If Period < 
      .67*Period[1] then Period = .67*Period[1];
      If Period <6 
      then Period = 6;
      If Period >50 
      then Period = 50;
      Period = .2*Period 
      + .8*Period[1];
      {END CORE 
      CODE}
      HilbertPeriod = 
      Period;
      end;
       
      -CS
       
       
       
       
       
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
      >
        <DIV 
        >From: 
        <A title=chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">Chuck Rademacher 
        To: <A 
        title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 
        7:47 PM
        Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: 
        Determining cycles
        
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>Thanks, Phsst.   
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2> 
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>I am using Corey's code with great success and I was a bit 
        concerned about "future leak".   I couldn't see where it was 
        happening and didn't really take the time to investigate.   I 
        just liked the results I was getting.
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2> 
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>Corey, I'm hoping that you see this email as I have a couple of 
        questions for you.
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2> 
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>1.  Can you tell me what is going on with "Periods2" and 
        "a"?   I see you have them as Param statements, but can you 
        recommend defaults.   If I do understand what you are doing 
        with Periods2, your default of "5" seems a bit low.   
        Espeicially in light of your comment about "Periods < 9 are NOT 
        reliable".   Or is that referring to some other 
        variable?
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2> 
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>2.  You seem to have built-in two smoothing techniques 
        (Smoother1 and Smoother2).  Can you tell me more about the logic 
        behind these?
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2> 
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2> 
        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>Thanks.
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        >
          <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
          size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Phsst 
          [mailto:phsst@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 
          10:00 PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
          [amibroker] Re: Determining cyclesChuck and 
          Corey,The offending line of code is:SetBarsRequired( 
          1000000, 1000000 );The above line caused the 'Check' feature 
          to issue a warning aboutreferencing 'future 
          quotes'.Regards,Phsst--- In 
          amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck 
          Rademacher"<chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:> 
          Corey,> > When I used your code (or mine) for the 
          HilbertPeriod thingie, AB thinks> that we are looking into the 
          future.  Any idea where to look for the> 
          problem?>   -----Original 
          Message----->   From: Corey Saxe 
          [mailto:res1wgwl@xxxx]>   Sent: Saturday, February 
          07, 2004 5:30 AM>   To: 
          amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] 
          Determining cycles> > >   Ara,> 
          >   I use dynamic periods for nearly everything. To 
          suppose that amarket is> always and forever going to cycle 
          at say, 21 days is absurd.> >   Hence, why I 
          supported dynamic parameter input for variousfunctions and> 
          indicators.> >   Something I've been tweaking 
          is included.> >   Note that each indicator or 
          metric that you desire to measure hasits own> sweet-spot 
          which will be a multiple (or fraction) of the resulting cycle> 
          frequency.>   For instance, If you want to use cycle 
          period input to the MACD,you may> find that it works best 
          if the input periods are multiplied by 0.67, but> maybe RSI 
          works best if the cycle periods are multiplied by 0.5.> 
          >   Don't bother with FFT. The deficiencies are vast. 
          Dennis Meyers did a> series of articles a few years ago in 
          Futures mag, and describedmany of the> failures of FFT to 
          work on market prices because of the constantvariability> 
          of the current cycle periods.> >   
          -CS>     ----- Original Message 
          ----->     From: Ara 
          Kaloustian>     To: 
          Ami-Main>     Sent: Friday, February 06, 
          2004 11:43 AM>     Subject: [amibroker] 
          Determining cycles> > >     
          Has anyone used cycle length determined dynamically and used to 
          set> parameters for each run?> 
          >     I considered using Fast Fourier 
          Transform... am open to any other> suggestions> 
          >     If it works one can produce 
          constantly optimzed system ...geting close> to the"holly 
          grail"> >     
          Thanks>     Ara> > 
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