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size=2>Dave,
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I'm 
think my comments are, at best, ambiguous and I apologise for the 
confusion.   The confusion came about due to talking about "dynamic 
parameters" vs. "stock-specific parameters".
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While I 
would really discourage anyone from using a different parameter set for each 
stock, I would recommend using identically calculated dynamic 
parameters for each bar for each stock.
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Now, 
that statement may lead to even more confusion unless I give some examples and 
these are only my opinions:
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Good 
example:
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    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>5/15 cross for all stocks
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Bad 
examples:
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    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>5/15 cross for IBM
    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>5/17 cross for MSFT
    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>4/13 cross for INTC
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color=#0000ff size=2>etc.
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Good 
example using a percentage of the Hilbert calculated cycle length on any 
day:
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color=#0000ff size=2>0.25% / 0.75% cross for all 
stocks
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Bad 
examples:
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    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>0.25% / 0.75% cross for IBM
    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>0.33% / 0.80% cross for MSFT
    <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>etc.
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  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Dave Merrill 
  [mailto:dmerrill@xxxxxxx]Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:38 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker] 
  Determining cycles
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  class=322173113-08022004>As I suspected. 
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  class=322173113-08022004>Just for my understanding then, what you mean by 
  "adjusting the lookback period" is changing the period for EMAs or other 
  functions over time, but using the same value for all issues? Thinking through 
  the underlying trading idea here, that'd say that the "frequency" of the 
  overall market changes, but that there's some degree of consistency across 
  various issues at any given time? 
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  <SPAN 
  class=322173113-08022004>Dave 
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    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Chuck 
    Rademacher
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    size=2>Dave,
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>IMO, that would be extreme overfitting.   It takes about 
    fifteen minutes doing out-of-sample research to convince me that individual 
    parameters for each (or even a few) stocks would make a serious dent in my 
    assets.  I feel this way regardless of whether you are talking about 
    RSI, MA, EMA, whatever.   To me, the beauty of trading  
    stocks instead of 40 futures markets is that you can find a single parameter 
    set that works across thousands of stocks generating thousands of 
    trades.  I like statistics on my side!
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      <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Dave Merrill 
      [mailto:dmerrill@xxxxxxx]Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:25 
      PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
      [amibroker] Determining cycles
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      class=031482321-07022004>Chuck, just out of curiosity, why do you say 
      you'd NEVER use different periods for each stock? Is your concern there 
      with overfitting? Something else?
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      <SPAN 
      class=031482321-07022004>Dave
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        size=2>Ara,
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        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>I should tell you that I have never found moving averages to work 
        well, over time, except for market timing using something like a 5/15 
        EMA crossover.  Every attempt that I've made to find one moving 
        average across a basket of stocks has not been profitable.   
        Dynamically adjusting the lookback periods, however, does improve things 
        considerably.  For the record, I would NEVER use different lookback 
        periods for each 
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