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size=2>Ace/Gary,
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size=2>This is probably a very dumb question but could you explain why you need 
an integer Ranking number if you already have ROC Ranking number? I am 
missing somethin basic... 
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size=2>Another question is whether you need to know the rank of all 3000 stocks 
or only the top 100?
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size=2>You comments will be much appreciated!
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size=2>herman.

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: acesheet 
  [mailto:acesheet@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: January 6, 2004 11:22 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] Re: 
  How to test IBD's idea?Gary,I see that you 
  are basically placing the ROC of whatever stock you are analyzing in the 
  particular order within the 'ROC stackup' for the day under 
  consideration.What you are doing is pretty much the same thing I did, 
  but in a different way. So it is a pure statistical stackup in that sense 
  and is the proper way of performing a ranking. It is very slow and 
  memory consuming for a large watchlist though. I like the results, but 
  it sure takes some time! It seems correct.In terms of Exploring for RS 
  stocks you'll find the code I presented is much faster, once the 
  calibration indices are created (~xroc and ~yrank). It does the same thing 
  that you did, but it only needs to create the stackup once. My code 
  creates a reference index that stores the stackup information for today, 
  whereas yours creates it for each stock you are scanning, which is why it 
  takes so long. Mine takes a long time, but only once per day. The RS 
  calculation then references the stored information, which makes it a lot 
  quicker.This is good work though. I'll be able to refer back to it for 
  ideas I think.Take that for what its 
  worth.-ace--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
  "gary_tiger2001" <gary_tiger2001@xxxx> wrote:> Ace,> 
  Please check my code below, it looks much simpler. It can rank from> 1 
  to 100. But the exploration is really slow for big database. I am> 
  trying to reduce the calculation amount before I can use it for> daily 
  exploration.> > //replace your watchlist number with 15> 
  list = CategoryGetSymbols( categoryWatchlist, 15 );> p = 20;> 
  Count=0;> rank = 0;> symVal = 0;> relval = 0;> 
  Ownval = ROC(C,p);> for( i = 0; ( sym = StrExtract( list, i ) ) != ""; 
  i++ )> {> symVal = Nz(Foreign( sym, "Close" ));> relval = 
  ROC(symval, p);> n=Nz(IIf(relVal!=0,1,0));> 
  Count[BarCount-1]=Count[BarCount-1]+n[BarCount-1];> 
  if(relval[BarCount-1] > Ownval[BarCount-1])> rank[BarCount-1] = 
  rank[BarCount-1]+1;> }> AddColumn(Count,"count",1.0);> 
  AddColumn(rank,"rank",1.0);> rank[BarCount-1] = 
  int(100*(Count[BarCount-1]-rank[BarCount-1])/Count> 
  [BarCount-1]);> > Filter = 1;> 
  AddColumn(Ownval,"ROC",1.2);> AddColumn(rank,"rank",1.0);> 
  > > Gary,> > > --- In 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "acesheet" <acesheet@xxxx> wrote:> 
  > JOE,> > > > I'm 99% certain the way I propose to 
  calculate the IBD RS *is* the > > way that it is done in terms 
  of comparing relative strength on a > > purely statistical basis. If 
  you look in Excel at the PERCENTRANK > > function you'll see 
  that it does essentially the same thing as > what > > I 
  designed in AFL for this code. > > > > Other formulations 
  may try to approximate the IBD number - I've > > designed a few of 
  those myself - but they aren't really doing what > > the essence 
  of the 1-99 comparison is. The code I showed does > > exactly what a 
  RS Rank compared to all stocks in the database and > is > 
  > not really an approxiamtion, except for the 11 point curve fit of 
  > > the CPD curve.> > > > The only difference 
  between the one I show and IBD's is that they > do > > 
  some weighting of either more than one ROC going into the CPD > > 
  comparison. I don't know what IBD's weightings are, but I'm pretty 
  > > sure it doesn't matter all that much as long as the idea finds 
  > high > > RS stocks to trade. In other words I really don't 
  think it matters > > if IBD says a stock is an 88 and this 
  calculation says its a 84.> > > > Have fun.> > 
  > > -ace> > > > --- In 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joseph Landry" <jelandry@xxxx> > 
  > wrote:> > > Ace - I subscribe to the forum digest so I don't 
  get any > > > attachments, and I'm wondering if you could forward 
  the AFL code > > to > > > me directly?> > 
  > > > > The folks over in the TC2000 area have a way of 
  calculating what > > > they say is IBD relative strength 
  number and as soon as I find > it > > > and the underlying 
  rationale I'll post it here.> > > > > > Thanks 
  > > > JOE > > > > > > --- In 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gary_tiger2001" > > > 
  <gary_tiger2001@xxxx> wrote:> > > > Thanks Ace, Harvey 
  & Jason,> > > > > > > > I will study the 
  code...> > > > > > > > Cheers,> > 
  > > Gary> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
  "acesheet" <acesheet@xxxx> > > wrote:> > > > 
  > Gary,> > > > > > > > > > There's a 
  couple of different ways of doing it. Some more > time > > 
  > > > consuming, some less. One way is to compare the returns 
  > using > > > ROC > > > > to > > 
  > > > a reference index (like SP500 or Value Line for US stocks). 
  > If > > a > > > > > stock's performance 
  significantly beats out the index, then > > its > > 
  > a > > > > > safe bet that it has high relative 
  strength. I've used this > > > > concept > > 
  > > > for back testing.> > > > > > > 
  > > > Another way is to use what's called the 'Cumulative > 
  > Probability' > > > > of > > > > > the 
  market returns. See post # 55179. If you have a large > > enough 
  > > > > > database you should be able to get these AFL 
  scripts to work > > > very > > > > > well 
  in terms of comparison with IBD's RS ranks. Currently I > > > 
  only > > > > > have a script that uses "today's" data 
  however, so it won't > be > > > so > > > 
  > > hot for backtesting. This method of ranking works very 
  well.> > > > > > > > > > You could 
  take the idea shown in post 55179 and adapt it to > > > > 
  collect > > > > > the data over time and create several 
  historical ROC indices > > for > > > > the 
  > > > > > 10 point curve fit. Something like > > 
  > > ~xroc1,~xroc10...~xroc90,~xroc99. > > > > > It 
  will probably take AB a very long time to crunch the > > numbers, 
  > > > > > however.> > > > > > 
  > > > > Hope that gives you some ideas.> > > > 
  > > > > > > -ace> > > > > > 
  > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gary_tiger2001" 
  > > > > > <gary_tiger2001@xxxx> wrote:> > 
  > > > > Happy new year to all of you.> > > > > 
  > > > > > > > I wish to test the idea from IBD, like 
  the relative > > strenghth > > > > > > 
  ranking, etc. I cannot figure out how to do it in AB. > > > 
  Basically, > > > > I > > > > > > have a 
  universe of stocks. Is it possible to rank the > > strength > 
  > > > of > > > > > > stocks compared to my 
  stock universe, from 1 - 99? > > > > > > > > 
  > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > 
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