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  • Subject: Re: [amibroker] data holes causing problem for ATC (Was Re: More on data holes - for TJ)
  • From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:36:54 -0800

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Charles,

http://www.amibroker.com/guide/w_settings.html
"Pad and align to reference symbol"

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "firstview2000" <firstview2000_1999@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [amibroker] data holes causing problem for ATC (Was Re: More on data holes - for TJ)


> TJ,
> 
> When using intraday quotes, it is even more likely to get data holes.
> 
> When this occurs, the atc function can not generate results as 
> expected.
> 
> Here's a simplified example.
> 
> Suppose I want to create a composite that is 
> 1. the sum of 10 stocks, 
> 2. each stock has a price of $10 all the time.
> 3. each stock has 30 minute intraday quotes with exception of one 
> DATA HOLE in only one stock,
> 4. let's calculate the composite with periodicity in AA set to 1 hour.
> 
> Normal Quotes: 
> 12:00 12:30 1:00 1:30 2:00
> 10    10    10   10   10
> 
> Quotes with one data hole at 1:00 pm for only this stock
> 12:00 12:30 xx   1:30 2:00
> 10    10    xx   10   10
> 
> The calculated composite would have the following values:
> 12:00 12:30 1:00 2:00
> 100   10    90   100
> 
> The expected values should be:
> 12:00       1:00 2:00
> 100         100  100
> 
> 
> Note: The actual composite values are shown in the composite chart. 
> 
> 
> Can show me a way to fix it ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Charles
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > Michael,
> > 
> > I already answered the question: non-existing data is not included 
> in calculations.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Michael.S.G." <OzFalcon@xxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 1:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] More on data holes - for TJ
> > 
> > 
> > > TJ,
> > >   So what would be happening when you calculate composites with 
> Un-Padded data?
> > > Does AB fill the holes in the data with previous values for each 
> days 
> > > calculation, Or does it simply exclude that stock from the days 
> calc?
> > > 
> > > In regards to FORIEGN function, One would also have to be wary of 
> > > interpreting Volume with un-padded data......?
> > > 
> > >          Michael.
> > > 
> > > At 10:47 PM 1/01/2004, you wrote:
> > > >Chuck,
> > > >
> > > >My question for you, however, is how do the various indicators 
> and moving 
> > > >average calculations deal with un-padded data holes.   If I do a 
> 5-day MA, 
> > > >for instance, and one of the days has no data, what would I get 
> for the 
> > > >MA?   Same for RSI or any other indicator.    It's taken me 
> years to get 
> > > >rid of data holes and find a data providor who will consistently 
> pad them 
> > > >for me so that indicators and other calculations work properly 
> (IMO).
> > > >
> > > >That's why I prefer unpadded data. I don't want 'artificial' 
> data to 
> > > >affect my indicators. The MA from unpadded data represents only 
> real 
> > > >trading days data.
> > > >So if say there was no trading on friday, the MA would represent 
> 5 days 
> > > >before friday (previous friday, last monday, tuesday, wed, 
> thursday).
> > > > From my *personal* point of view, calculation of indicators 
> should not be 
> > > > affected by bars artificially added by padding process.
> > > >But of course your preference may be different and you can use 
> padded data 
> > > >and include all bars (including artificial ones with zero 
> volume).
> > > >
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Tomasz Janeczko
> > > >amibroker.com
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <mailto:chuck_rademacher@x...>Chuck Rademacher
> > > >To: <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:29 PM
> > > >Subject: [amibroker] More on data holes - for TJ
> > > >
> > > >TJ,
> > > >
> > > >Paul's plug-in and my conversion program could, if desired, 
> create data 
> > > >holes (consistently) for users who want them.   I'm not trying 
> to be 
> > > >funny, but it is possible to leave a hole on those days when the 
> volume is 
> > > >zero.   We can forget about why anyone would want to do this.   
> It can be 
> > > >done and it would be 100% consistent rather than 15% consistent 
> like it is 
> > > >for most data providors.
> > > >
> > > >My question for you, however, is how do the various indicators 
> and moving 
> > > >average calculations deal with un-padded data holes.   If I do a 
> 5-day MA, 
> > > >for instance, and one of the days has no data, what would I get 
> for the 
> > > >MA?   Same for RSI or any other indicator.    It's taken me 
> years to get 
> > > >rid of data holes and find a data providor who will consistently 
> pad them 
> > > >for me so that indicators and other calculations work properly 
> (IMO).
> > > >
> > > >I could test to see how some of these calculations are 
> affected... if only 
> > > >I had some data holes!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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