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size=2>Pal,
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Please 
try to keep track of your MANY stories.   I have saved a lot of your 
emails just to remind me of the inconsistency in your 
reporting.
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You 
submit a stock system with no slippage.   You have done a lot of 
postings regarding stock systems.   Each time I ask you about 
slippage, you tell me that you only trade Forex and NEVER trade 
stocks.   Which is it?
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BTW, 
you would be the only person on the planet with no slippage trading 
FOREX.   My futures fund does about $50 million a day in FOREX trades 
with plenty of slippage (positive and negative).
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So, 
please humour me with your stock system and tell me how well it does with 1% 
slippage.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: palsanand 
  [mailto:palsanand@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:07 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] Re: 
  PositionScore IdeasI trade the FOREX market and there 
  are no slippages/commissions (the market being so huge they can afford to 
  have no commissions) there, i.e, What You See Is What You Get, the price 
  has no slippages, it takes 1 click to get a fill.rgds, Pal--- 
  In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher" 
  <chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:> Pal,> > What good 
  is a backtest with no slippage/commission?   Slippage 
  happens!> What kind of results do you get with 1% 
  slippage?>   -----Original Message----->   
  From: palsanand [mailto:palsanand@xxxx]>   Sent: Saturday, 
  December 13, 2003 9:36 PM>   To: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: 
  PositionScore Ideas> > >   If you think that 
  was nice, you might find the following nicer:> >   I 
  used the following for the PositionScore (modified) with 
  MaxOpenPos>   = 5, MaxRisk = 0.1 and PositionSize = 
  -100/MaxOpenPos, initial equity>   = $1000, MinShares = 
  100, Margin = 1, No commissions/slippage, No>   trade 
  delays:> >   tr13 = 0.4 * (C - Ref(C, -63)) / Ref(C, 
  -63) * 100;>   tr26 = 0.3 * (C - Ref(C, -126)) / Ref(C, -126) 
  * 100;>   tr37 = 0.3 * (C - Ref(C, -189)) / Ref(C, -189) * 
  100;>   tr52 = 0.3 * (C - Ref(C, -252)) / Ref(C, -252) * 
  100;>   RSW = tr13 + tr26 + tr37 + tr52;>   
  PositionScore = RSW;> > >   Statistics | Charts 
  | Trades | Formula | Settings | Symbols> >   
  Statistics>     All trades Long trades Short 
  trades>   Initial capital 1000.00 1000.00 
  1000.00>   Ending capital 11682.22 7056.75 
  5625.47>   Net Profit 10682.22 6056.75 
  4625.47>   Net Profit % 1068.22 % 605.67 % 462.55 
  %>   Exposure % 73.64 % 39.75 % 33.89 %>   
  Net Risk Adjusted Return % 1450.54 % 1523.54 % 1364.91 %>   
  Annual Return % 126.23 % 91.35 % 77.48 %>   Risk Adjusted 
  Return % 171.41 % 229.80 % 228.62 %> >   
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------->   
  ----------> >   All trades 1246 626 (50.24 %) 620 
  (49.76 %)>   Avg. Profit/Loss 8.57 9.68 
  7.46>   Avg. Profit/Loss % 1.10 % 1.20 % 1.00 
  %>   Avg. Bars Held 3.79 3.99 3.59> 
  >   
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------->   
  ----------> >   Winners 1201 (96.39 %) 606 (48.64 %) 
  595 (47.75 %)>   Total Profit 10819.18 6132.56 
  4686.62>   Avg. Profit 9.01 10.12 7.88>   
  Avg. Profit % 1.16 % 1.26 % 1.06 %>   Avg. Bars Held 3.82 
  4.02 3.60>   Max. Consecutive 232 122 174>   
  Largest win 77.52 77.52 60.60>   # bars in largest win 14 14 
  6> >   
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------->   
  ----------> >   Losers 45 (3.61 %) 20 (1.61 %) 25 
  (2.01 %)>   Total Loss -136.96 -75.81 
  -61.15>   Avg. Loss -3.04 -3.79 -2.45>   
  Avg. Loss % -0.36 % -0.41 % -0.32 %>   Avg. Bars Held 3.09 
  2.95 3.20>   Max. Consecutive 3 2 3>   
  Largest loss -21.17 -21.17 -17.19>   # bars in largest loss 2 
  2 3> >   
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------->   
  ----------> >   Max. trade drawdown -60.60 -4.03 
  -60.60>   Max. trade % drawdown -5.98 % -0.83 % -5.98 
  %>   Max. system drawdown -60.40 -23.03 
  -37.37>   Max. system % drawdown -1.53 % -0.70 % -1.63 
  %>   Recovery Factor 176.86 262.99 123.78>   
  CAR/MaxDD 82.47 130.55 47.67>   RAR/MaxDD 111.99 328.40 
  140.68>   Profit Factor 79.00 80.89 76.64>   
  Payoff Ratio 2.96 2.67 3.22>   Standard Error 1161.89 657.70 
  505.32>   Risk-Reward Ratio 2.52 2.49 
  2.56>   Ulcer Index 0.10 0.06 0.13>   Ulcer 
  Performance Index 1199.42 1449.04 539.46>   Sharpe Ratio of 
  trades 10.41 10.85 10.07>   K-Ratio 2.19 2.17 2.23> 
  >   rgds, Pal> >   --- In 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> 
  wrote:>   > If so, nice signals 
  (:-)>   >>   >>   
  >>   > Understatement!!!!!>   
  >>   >>   >>   
  > Ken>   >>   >>   
  >>   > -----Original Message----->   
  > From: Dave Merrill [mailto:dmerrill@xxxx]>   > Sent: 
  Saturday, December 13, 2003 6:07 PM>   > To: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   > Subject: RE: [amibroker] 
  Re: PositionScore Ideas>   >>   
  >>   >>   > Do I have it right that 
  there's other buy/sell signal code we're not>   > 
  seeing, and PositionScore is being used only for ranking when 
  there>   are>   > more buy signals 
  than available positions? This isn't a rotational>   > 
  system using only PositionScore?>   >>   
  >>   >>   > If so, nice signals 
  (:-)>   >>   >>   
  >>   > Dave>   
  >>   >>   >>   
  > This backtest comparison is for illustrative purposes only. I 
  make>   no>   > claims regarding 
  these test results other than the AFL and Setup>   > 
  criteria was identical for both tests. The only difference was 
  the>   > assignment of PositionScore = QRS versus 
  PositionScore = RSW.>   >>   > 
  NOTE:>   >>   > // RSW = .4*(Total 
  Return 13-Week)+.3*(Total Return 26-Week)+.3*>   
  (Total>   > Return 1-Year)>   > tr13 = 
  0.4 * (C - Ref(C, -65)) / Ref(C, -65) * 100;>   > tr26 = 
  0.3 * (C - Ref(C, -130)) / Ref(C, -130) * 100;>   > tr52 = 
  0.3 * (C - Ref(C, -260)) / Ref(C, -260) * 100;>   > RSW = 
  tr13 + tr26 + tr52;>   > PositionScore = 
  RSW;>   >>   > Date Range 6/1/1995 to 
  Present (No QRS scores exist prior to this)>   
  >>   > Direct comparison:>   
  >>   >       RSW 
  SCORE            QRS 
  SCORE>   >       Long 
  trades            Long 
  trades>   > Initial capital      
  100000            
  100000>   > Ending capital      
  22984180      190338380>   > Net 
  Profit      22884180      
  190238380>   > Net Profit %      
  22884.18%      190238.38%>   > 
  Exposure %      
  94.25%            
  94.16%>   > Net RAR %      
  24280.98%      202035.63%>   > 
  Annual Return %      
  89.07%              
  142.19%>   > Risk Adj Retn %      
  94.50%            
  151.01%>   >>   > All 
  trades      7431 (100.00 
  %)      7487 (100.00 %)>   > Avg. 
  Profit/Loss      3079.56 25409.16>   
  > Avg. Profit/Loss %      
  -4.16%      -2.88%>   > Avg. Bars 
  Held               
  2.65      2.63>   
  >>   > 
  Winners               
  3829 (51.53 %)      4066 (54.31 
  %)>   > Total Profit      
  64437022.92      436648089.7>   > 
  Avg. Profit      
  16828.68      107390.09>   > Avg. 
  Profit %      
  3.10%            
  3.13%>   > Avg. Bars Held      
  2.33            
  2.33>   > Max. Consecutive      
  17      17>   > Largest 
  win      978262.15      
  7798920.06>   > # bars in largest 
  win      2      
  2>   >>   > 
  Losers      3602 (48.47 
  %)            3421 
  (45.69 %)>   > Total Loss      
  -41552842.92      -246409709.4>   
  > Avg. Loss      
  -11536.05      -72028.56>   > 
  Avg. Loss %      
  -11.88%            
  -10.03%>   > Avg. Bars Held      
  2.98            
  2.99>   > Max. Consecutive      
  13      12>   > Largest 
  loss      
  -542767            
  -4301835.5>   > # bars in largest 
  loss      6      
  6>   >>   > Max. trade 
  drawdown      
  -610851.92      -4864832.72>   > 
  Max. trade % drawdown      
  -98.69%            
  -99.67%>   > Max. system 
  drawdown      
  -2119041.36      -15587244.83>   
  > Max. system % drawdown      
  -34.68%            
  -27.63%>   > Recovery Factor      
  10.8            
  12.2>   > CAR/MaxDD      
  2.57            
  5.15>   > RAR/MaxDD      
  2.72            
  5.46>   > Profit Factor      
  1.55            
  1.77>   > Payoff Ratio      
  1.46            
  1.49>   > Standard Error      
  2982472.3      25676798.01>   > 
  Risk-Reward Ratio      
  0.44      0.38>   > Ulcer 
  Index      
  12.1            
  7.64>   > Ulcer Performance 
  Index      6.92      
  17.9>   > Sharpe Ratio of 
  trades      -0.72      
  -0.86>   > 
  K-Ratio                       
  1.09      0.93>   
  >>   > FWIW, I have some other systems / variations 
  that I'll run a RSW vs.>   > QRS comparison on. If 
  there are any notable improvements to the RSW>   > 
  results, I'll post them.>   >>   > 
  Regards,>   >>   > 
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