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[amibroker] Re: POSTING STOPS



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hmmm - im a novice to amibroker but not to trading and i have rarely 
put hard stops on trades i prefer to feel it out a little and let a 
stop be breached a bit - give it some time to see whats really going 
on then go from there - i think thats something that takes experience 
as for me that has worked more than it hasnt but ive gotten cought 
more then once but nothing too major - i think some common sense 
helps?
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I came accross this in S & C Magazine interview with Don Bright of 
> Bright Trading:
> 
> Do you have any sort of stop associated with your buys or shorts? 
Is 
> it possible to post them with your entry? I have read in several 
> books that you should know your exit before you enter a stock. - 
> Bobdek 
> 
> Using stop orders is tantamount to showing your poker hand to other 
> players. "Mental" stops, on the other hand, provide a trader with 
the 
> opportunity to scan the overall market conditions without being 
taken 
> advantage of. Here's one prime example of something that happens 
> every day: Assume a stock is trading 50.00/50.10 10x10. Now you see 
> the quote: 49.00/50.10 1x1. Your (sell) stop is 49.20. 
> 
> Most experienced traders actually put in buy orders as quickly as 
> they can when they see the bid price drop, since they know that 
> a "negotiated print" is about to take place at a lower price. Then 
> the stock prints, say 100,000 shares at 49.10; your trigger goes 
off, 
> and you lose money. 
> 
> In all likelihood, the stock will rebound near its previous price, 
> since this was simply an example of a "trade-through" aberration. 
> Since many brokers in the crowd (and market makers at firms) 
> are "holding orders" (so they can get extra commissions), they must 
> rush to buy the stock at their limit prices - at which the stock 
goes 
> back up - you lose. Now, if you were using mental stops, not only 
> would you not sell, you would actually be buying and making money. 
> Floor traders, specialists, and market makers understand this 
> phenomenon, and use it to take advantage of stop orders and pricing 
> variables. 
> 
> Looks to me a good rule of thumb is to wait for about 20 minutes 
when 
> your mental stop is hit and if and only if you are still losing, 
that 
> it is prudent to exit the trade and not before, but there are 
certain 
> instances where a tight stop is essential, for e.g., trying to 
catch 
> the trend on a pulback, because if you are wrong about the trend, 
it 
> would be costly indeed.  A better strategy is to optimize your 
entry 
> points based on volatility and a prediction of the next day's 
range, 
> in which case we can even afford to have a tight stop in all cases 
> and a uniform way of coding stops in AB.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> rgds, Pal


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