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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Summation Indices
From: "ed2000nl" <pablito@xxxxxxx>
2. Re: Re: Getextradata-Error(Fixed)
From: "Brian Elijah" <cadvantag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: New portfolio testing numbers
From: Yuki Taga <yukitaga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Indices again
From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: New portfolio testing numbers
From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
6. EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
From: "mrdavis9" <mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
8. Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
From: "mrdavis9" <mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Re: Summation Indices
From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
From: "mrdavis9" <mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: New Yahoo Group Archive?
From: "_THEM_" <manchu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: Re: Summation Indices
From: "Wayne Kroutil" <wayne100@xxxxxxx>
14. Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
From: "Gerard Carey" <gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
15. RE: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
16. RE: Re: Summation Indices
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
From: "gerard_carey" <gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
18. OT: Some interesting reading on recent Gold price Movements
From: "Bruce H." <bwh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
19. RE: Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
20. Re: Re: Summation Indices
From: "Wayne Kroutil" <wayne100@xxxxxxx>
21. Re: More Random thoughts.....
From: "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxxxxxxx>
22. RE: Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
23. Re: Trade You.... A poem...for a Profile View URL
From: "gerard_carey" <gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
24. Re: More Random thoughts.....
From: "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxxxxxxx>
25. RE: Re: More Random thoughts.....
From: "Dave Merrill" <dmerrill@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:17:56 -0000
From: "ed2000nl" <pablito@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Summation Indices
Joe,
maybe a suggestion. Let Yahoo send all new messages to your Email
adres. See: "Edit My Membership"
I send all messages to my local provider and can see the attachment
then.
regards, Ed
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joseph Landry" <jelandry@xxxx>
wrote:
> -Steve - Here's my village idiot question. I'd love to look at how
> you calculated the SIs since I'm been trying to match trade
> generated McClellan Summation Index for a Beasley Score card...in
> another area and would like too calc them for the Sectors.
However...
> my forum notes always come up empty on attachments - says
attachment
> not stored, same for GIFs.... so unless I'm missing something
> obvious on my Yahoo forum preferences,/browser security - these
> attachments are not visible to me. If it's possible to receive
> attachments via the forum please let me know, and would you store
> these AFLs in the library?
>
> Thanks
> Joe Landry
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:20:28 -0500
From: "Brian Elijah" <cadvantag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Getextradata-Error(Fixed)
Tomasz,
Not sure where the problem was. I purged all my data and reloaded all
tickers- then deleted anything that looked out of place.
I never did do the Fred's PT that generated @PT-EQTY.
But I did do the Top ROC of Dimitris's, but I don't see how that created any
problem with this.
But anyway its fixed. Thanks for the Help!!
Brian
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From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 2:30 PM
Subject: Fw: [amibroker] Re: Getextradata-Error
> Brian,
>
> I don't know but ... just a guess:
> the reason is that you may have some arificial equity
> added that does not follow convention of using ~ (tilde) at
> the beginning so it is not added at the end of the list but in
> the middle of the list (after QP2 indices).
> For example if you used Fred's PT then it generated @PT-EQTY-
> artificial ticker that of course could not be found in QP2 database
> and this may be the reason of your problem.
> If this is the case simply delete @PT-EQTY symbol.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Elijah" <cadvantag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Getextradata-Error
> >
> >
> > > That is the exact error message I get
> > >
> > > Error 18.
> > > GetExtraData failed
> > >
> > > How can this be fixed?
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ed2000nl" <pablito@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 4:16 AM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Getextradata-Error
> > >
> > >
> > > > i have a similar problem. I have a computer with Windows 2000 Prof +
> > > > AB + QP2 and a computer with Windows XP Prof + AB + QP2. The file
> > > > directory installations are exactly the same. If I "Explore"
> > > > through "all stocks" with the code shown below I get the following
> > > > error message on the Windows 2000 machine and I get NO error on the
> > > > Windows XP machine.
> > > >
> > > > The problem seems machine / operating system related ?
> > > >
> > > > regards, Ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----error message on the Windows 2000 machine
> > > >
> > > > Line 2, Column 40:
> > > > Var1 = (GetExtraData("SharesShort") / (GetExtraData("SharesFloat")
> > > > *1e6)) *100;
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------^
> > > >
> > > > Error 18.
> > > > GetExtraData failed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----code
> > > >
> > > > Var1 = (GetExtraData("SharesShort") / (GetExtraData("SharesFloat")
> > > > *1e6)) *100;
> > > >
> > > > Buy = (Cross(RSI(),25) OR
> > > > Cross(RSI(),26) OR
> > > > Cross(RSI(),27) OR
> > > > Cross(RSI(),28) OR
> > > > Cross(RSI(),29) OR
> > > > Cross(RSI(),30)) AND
> > > > V>100000 AND
> > > > C<30 AND
> > > > Var1 < 5;
> > > >
> > > > Filter = Buy;
> > > >
> > > > AddColumn( GetExtraData("SharesShort") , "Shares Short" );
> > > > AddColumn( GetExtraData("SharesFloat") , "Shares Float" );
> > > > AddColumn( Var1 , "Shares Short (%)" );
> > > > AddColumn( GetExtraData("LTDebtToEq") , "LT Debt to Eqty" );
> > > > AddColumn( GetExtraData("PEG") , "PEG" );
> > > > AddColumn( GetExtraData("CashFlowPerShare") , "CashFlowPerShare" );
> > > > AddColumn( GetExtraData("Yr1ProjEPSGrowth") , "Yr1ProjEPSGrowth" );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Brian Elijah" <cadvantag@xxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > To add to my weirdness with this. It works on a individual stock-
> > > > when I choose "apply to current stock"
> > > > >
> > > > > But- does not work in a exploration on my XP machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > :o(
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Brian Elijah
> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:09 PM
> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Getextradata-Error
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am getting an error with this formula.
> > > > >
> > > > > esp = GetExtraData("EPSRank");
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My Win '98 machine it works find- But on my Win XP it does not.
> > > > Both have Quotes Plus as the data source.Does anyone know why it
> > > > would work on '98 and not on XP
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:39:22 +0900
From: Yuki Taga <yukitaga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New portfolio testing numbers
Hi Tomasz,
Sunday, October 5, 2003, 7:23:38 PM, you wrote:
TJ> Shortly on Standard Error figure: standard error is a part of
TJ> linear regression analysis. For simple description see this:
TJ> http://www.numericalmathematics.com/least_squares.htm
TJ> Standard error of equity describes how much equity line
TJ> fluctuates around linear regression of it.
TJ> Note that standard error grows with your initial capital.
TJ> If the same system is tested usgin 10x more initial capital
TJ> then standard error will grow also 10x (assuming % commissions).
TJ> So you get high figures because your starting capital expressed
TJ> in YEN is high. You may prefer to divide standard error by starting
capital
TJ> to get some more resonable values and to be able to compare
TJ> figures when you are using different initial capital.
Okay, so a small number is good, right? If I divide by total capital
allotted to each equity (not aggregate total capital), I get a
fractional number. Is that meaningful?
Yuki
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:08:19 -0400
From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Indices again
Ouch! - I meant to finish the title statement before my earlier post. Here
is the corrected file.
Steve
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:44:46 +0200
From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New portfolio testing numbers
Yuki,
> Okay, so a small number is good, right? If I divide by total capital
> allotted to each equity (not aggregate total capital), I get a
> fractional number. Is that meaningful?
Yes smaller (relatively) standard error is good. But don't put to much
weight on it. Systems that produce exponential growth
have high standard error (because exponential curve does not resemble
straight line), even if they don't produce substantial drawdowns.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:11:39 -0500
From: "mrdavis9" <mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
I was unable to find anything in the user manual telling me how to run an
exploration for buy signals that occurr on only Sept. 9,2003 data. I want
to simulate the scenario where I run this exploration immediately after I
have just downloaded the EOD data at the end of the Sept. 2003 trading day.
All help will be appreciated. Ron D
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:13:09 +0200
From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Hello,
Set From and To dates to Sep 9 in AA window and that' it.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibrokeryahoogroups
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
I was unable to find anything in the user manual telling me how to run an
exploration for buy signals that occurr on only Sept. 9,2003 data. I want
to simulate the scenario where I run this exploration immediately after I
have just downloaded the EOD data at the end of the Sept. 2003 trading day.
All help will be appreciated. Ron D
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:37:46 -0500
From: "mrdavis9" <mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Thanks for the reply. That's what I did before I sent in the inquiry. I am
looking at the results as I type this. The date /time column does display
the correct day of 9/18/03. This exploration is the one where you showed me
how to make columns that display the date of purchase as well as the date of
sale. The date of purchase dates are all over the map starting back as far
as January 23, 2003. Some of the dates of sale are occurring before the
purchase date. The buy and sell arrows are also all over the map. What I
want to be able to see is only those buy arrows that occur on the day of
9/18/03. If other buy arrows happen to show up earlier that 9/18/03, that
is OK, but I don't want to see any that show up after 9/18/03. This
exploration seems to have totally ignored the fact that I checked the radio
button by the word FROM , and the two date entrys of 9/18/02. All help is
appreciated. Ron D
----- Original Message -----
From: Tomasz Janeczko
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Hello,
Set From and To dates to Sep 9 in AA window and that' it.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibrokeryahoogroups
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
I was unable to find anything in the user manual telling me how to run
an exploration for buy signals that occurr on only Sept. 9,2003 data. I
want to simulate the scenario where I run this exploration immediately after
I have just downloaded the EOD data at the end of the Sept. 2003 trading
day. All help will be appreciated. Ron D
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:25:07 -0400
From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Summation Indices
Hi,
For what its worth, I agree that e-mails are the way to go, especially since
Yahoo started deleting attachments. For those that don't subscribe to
e-mails, I will post the attachments to my folder in the Amibroker-AFL
group. Should be ready in about 10 mins.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: ed2000nl
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
Joe,
maybe a suggestion. Let Yahoo send all new messages to your Email
adres. See: "Edit My Membership"
I send all messages to my local provider and can see the attachment
then.
regards, Ed
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joseph Landry" <jelandry@xxxx>
wrote:
> -Steve - Here's my village idiot question. I'd love to look at how
> you calculated the SIs since I'm been trying to match trade
> generated McClellan Summation Index for a Beasley Score card...in
> another area and would like too calc them for the Sectors.
However...
> my forum notes always come up empty on attachments - says
attachment
> not stored, same for GIFs.... so unless I'm missing something
> obvious on my Yahoo forum preferences,/browser security - these
> attachments are not visible to me. If it's possible to receive
> attachments via the forum please let me know, and would you store
> these AFLs in the library?
>
> Thanks
> Joe Landry
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:54:37 -0500
From: "mrdavis9" <mrdavis9@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Additional information. I just noticed that the latest sell date is
9/18/03. I want the only buy date to be 9/18/03, because I am exploring
what happens when I scan on a healthy up day on the dow, and then the market
starts down on the next day, which is the day that the purchase will be
made. Until I am able to do what I want here, I will just click on the
purchase date column, and scroll down to those that occur on 9/18/03. I am
only doing a visual examination of the subsequent stock action anyway. Ron
D
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Thanks for the reply. That's what I did before I sent in the inquiry. I
am looking at the results as I type this. The date /time column does
display the correct day of 9/18/03. This exploration is the one where you
showed me how to make columns that display the date of purchase as well as
the date of sale. The date of purchase dates are all over the map starting
back as far as January 23, 2003. Some of the dates of sale are occurring
before the purchase date. The buy and sell arrows are also all over the map.
What I want to be able to see is only those buy arrows that occur on the day
of 9/18/03. If other buy arrows happen to show up earlier that 9/18/03,
that is OK, but I don't want to see any that show up after 9/18/03. This
exploration seems to have totally ignored the fact that I checked the radio
button by the word FROM , and the two date entrys of 9/18/02. All help is
appreciated. Ron D
----- Original Message -----
From: Tomasz Janeczko
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Hello,
Set From and To dates to Sep 9 in AA window and that' it.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibrokeryahoogroups
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
I was unable to find anything in the user manual telling me how to run
an exploration for buy signals that occurr on only Sept. 9,2003 data. I
want to simulate the scenario where I run this exploration immediately after
I have just downloaded the EOD data at the end of the Sept. 2003 trading
day. All help will be appreciated. Ron D
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:19:27 -0400
From: "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Ron,
You can define the buy and sell arrays any way you want:
Sell = 0; // if you dont want to record any sells
Buy = your conditions AND Datenum() == 1030918;
or, to get a buy signal for all stocks on that day, just
Buy = Datenum() == 1030918;
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Additional information. I just noticed that the latest sell date is
9/18/03. I want the only buy date to be 9/18/03, because I am exploring
what happens when I scan on a healthy up day on the dow, and then the market
starts down on the next day, which is the day that the purchase will be
made. Until I am able to do what I want here, I will just click on the
purchase date column, and scroll down to those that occur on 9/18/03. I am
only doing a visual examination of the subsequent stock action anyway. Ron
D
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Thanks for the reply. That's what I did before I sent in the inquiry. I
am looking at the results as I type this. The date /time column does
display the correct day of 9/18/03. This exploration is the one where you
showed me how to make columns that display the date of purchase as well as
the date of sale. The date of purchase dates are all over the map starting
back as far as January 23, 2003. Some of the dates of sale are occurring
before the purchase date. The buy and sell arrows are also all over the map.
What I want to be able to see is only those buy arrows that occur on the day
of 9/18/03. If other buy arrows happen to show up earlier that 9/18/03,
that is OK, but I don't want to see any that show up after 9/18/03. This
exploration seems to have totally ignored the fact that I checked the radio
button by the word FROM , and the two date entrys of 9/18/02. All help is
appreciated. Ron D
----- Original Message -----
From: Tomasz Janeczko
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
Hello,
Set From and To dates to Sep 9 in AA window and that' it.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdavis9
To: amibrokeryahoogroups
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: [amibroker] EXPLORE ONLY 1 DAY
I was unable to find anything in the user manual telling me how to
run an exploration for buy signals that occurr on only Sept. 9,2003 data.
I want to simulate the scenario where I run this exploration immediately
after I have just downloaded the EOD data at the end of the Sept. 2003
trading day. All help will be appreciated. Ron D
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 01:21:49 -0000
From: "_THEM_" <manchu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New Yahoo Group Archive?
Thanks for the reply... where on the ab site can i find Q3?
I've checked the Member's only area and the Support pages.
Thanks!
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marek Chlopek <mchlopek@xxxx> wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 of October 2003 05:06, _THEM_ wrote:
> > Are there new archive files for Q2 and/or Q3?
> >
> > Can't find 'em.
>
> Q3 uploading... (ncftp says we should wait 39 min)
>
> Q2 is partial on the server; i have thought I have sent final
archive to;
> unfortunately just after that I have deleted the file, so it is not
available
>
> Maybe someone else have it so I could merge archive for Q2 (needed
1 Jun-31
> Aug)?
>
> Regards,
> --
> Marek Chlopek
> mchlopek@xxxx
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:23:20 -0500
From: "Wayne Kroutil" <wayne100@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Summation Indices
Where can I find and sign up for the AFL group?
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Dugas
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
Hi,
For what its worth, I agree that e-mails are the way to go, especially
since Yahoo started deleting attachments. For those that don't subscribe to
e-mails, I will post the attachments to my folder in the Amibroker-AFL
group. Should be ready in about 10 mins.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: ed2000nl
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
Joe,
maybe a suggestion. Let Yahoo send all new messages to your Email
adres. See: "Edit My Membership"
I send all messages to my local provider and can see the attachment
then.
regards, Ed
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wrote:
> -Steve - Here's my village idiot question. I'd love to look at how
> you calculated the SIs since I'm been trying to match trade
> generated McClellan Summation Index for a Beasley Score card...in
> another area and would like too calc them for the Sectors.
However...
> my forum notes always come up empty on attachments - says
attachment
> not stored, same for GIFs.... so unless I'm missing something
> obvious on my Yahoo forum preferences,/browser security - these
> attachments are not visible to me. If it's possible to receive
> attachments via the forum please let me know, and would you store
> these AFLs in the library?
>
> Thanks
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:25:43 +1000
From: "Gerard Carey" <gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Yeah g'day
I'm trying to set up profile view for the ASX
(Australian Market) and would appreciate
any advice on a suitable URL.
In anticipatory thanks may I offer the
opportunity to enjoy a favourite poem by
William Makepeace Thackeray.
'THE BALLAD OF BOUILLABAISSE'
A STREET there is in Paris famous,
For which no rhyme our language yields,
Rue Neuve de petits Champs its name is --
The New Street of the Little Fields;
And there's an inn, not rich and splendid,
But still in comfortable case;
The which in youth I oft attended,
To eat a bowl of Bouillabaisse.
This Bouillabaisse a noble dish is --
A sort of soup, or broth, or brew,
Or hotchpotch of all sorts of fishes,
That Greenwich never could outdo;
Green herbs, red peppers, muscles, saffern,
Soles, onions, garlic, roach, and dace;
All these you eat at Terré's tavern,
In that one dish of Bouillabaisse.
Indeed, a rich and savory stew 'tis;
And true philosophers, methinks,
Who love all sorts of natural beauties,
Should love good victuals and good drinks.
And Cordelier or Benedictine
Might gladly, sure, his lot embrace,
Nor find a fast-day too afflicting,
Which served him up a Bouillabaisse.
I wonder if the house still there is?
Yes, here the lamp is as before;
The smiling, red-cheek'd écaillère is
Still opening oysters at the door.
Is Terré still alive and able?
I recollect his droll grimace;
He'd come and smile before your table,
And hoped you like your Bouillabaisse.
We enter; nothing's changed or older.
"How's Monsieur Terré, waiter, pray?"
The waiter stares and shrugs his shoulder --
"Monsieur is dead this many a day."
"It is the lot of saint and sinner.
So honest Terré's run his race!"
"What will Monsieur require for dinner?"
"Say, do you still cook Bouillabaisse?"
"Oh, oui, Monsieur," 's the waiter's answer;
"Quel vin Monsieur désire-t-il ?"
Tell me a good one." "That I can, sir;
The Chambertin with yellow seal."
"So Terré's gone," I say, and sink in
My old accustom'd corner-place;
"He's done with feasting and with drinking,
With Burgundy and Bouillabaisse."
My old accustom'd corner here is--
The table still is in the nook;
Ah! vanished many a busy year is,
This well-known chair since last I took.
When first I saw ye, cari luoghi,
I'd scarce a beard upon my face,
And now a grizzled, grim old fogy,
I sit and wait for Bouillabaisse.
Where are you, old companions trusty
Of early days, here met to dine?
Come, waiter! quick, a flagon crusty --
I'll pledge them in the good old wine.
The kind old voices and old faces
My memory can quick retrace;
Around the board they take their places,
And share the wine and Bouillabaisse.
There's Jack has made a wondrous marriage;
There's laughing Tom is laughing yet;
There's brave Augustus drives his carriage;
There's poor old Fred in the Gazette;
On James's head the grass is growing:
Good Lord! the world has wagged apace
Since here we sat the Claret flowing,
And drank, and ate the Bouillabaisse.
Ah me! how quick the days are flitting!
I mind me of a time that's gone,
When here I'd sit, as now I'm sitting,
In this same place--but not alone.
A fair young form was nestled near me,
A dear, dear face looked fondly up,
And sweetly spoke and smiled to cheer me.
-- There's no one now to share my cup.
. . . . . . . .
I drink it as the Fates ordain it.
Come, fill it, and have done with rhymes;
Fill up the lonely glass, and drain it
In memory of dear old times.
Welcome the wine, whate'er the seal is;
And sit you down and say your grace
With thankful heart, whate'er the meal is.
Here comes the smoking Bouillabaisse !
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:30:27 +0800
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Try this one
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}&companyName=&principal
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:26 AM
To: AB Yahoo group
Subject: [amibroker] Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Yeah g'day
I'm trying to set up profile view for the ASX
(Australian Market) and would appreciate
any advice on a suitable URL.
In anticipatory thanks may I offer the
opportunity to enjoy a favourite poem by
William Makepeace Thackeray.
'THE BALLAD OF BOUILLABAISSE'
A STREET there is in Paris famous,
For which no rhyme our language yields,
Rue Neuve de petits Champs its name is --
The New Street of the Little Fields;
And there's an inn, not rich and splendid,
But still in comfortable case;
The which in youth I oft attended,
To eat a bowl of Bouillabaisse.
This Bouillabaisse a noble dish is --
A sort of soup, or broth, or brew,
Or hotchpotch of all sorts of fishes,
That Greenwich never could outdo;
Green herbs, red peppers, muscles, saffern,
Soles, onions, garlic, roach, and dace;
All these you eat at Terré's tavern,
In that one dish of Bouillabaisse.
Indeed, a rich and savory stew 'tis;
And true philosophers, methinks,
Who love all sorts of natural beauties,
Should love good victuals and good drinks.
And Cordelier or Benedictine
Might gladly, sure, his lot embrace,
Nor find a fast-day too afflicting,
Which served him up a Bouillabaisse.
I wonder if the house still there is?
Yes, here the lamp is as before;
The smiling, red-cheek'd écaillère is
Still opening oysters at the door.
Is Terré still alive and able?
I recollect his droll grimace;
He'd come and smile before your table,
And hoped you like your Bouillabaisse.
We enter; nothing's changed or older.
"How's Monsieur Terré, waiter, pray?"
The waiter stares and shrugs his shoulder --
"Monsieur is dead this many a day."
"It is the lot of saint and sinner.
So honest Terré's run his race!"
"What will Monsieur require for dinner?"
"Say, do you still cook Bouillabaisse?"
"Oh, oui, Monsieur," 's the waiter's answer;
"Quel vin Monsieur désire-t-il ?"
Tell me a good one." "That I can, sir;
The Chambertin with yellow seal."
"So Terré's gone," I say, and sink in
My old accustom'd corner-place;
"He's done with feasting and with drinking,
With Burgundy and Bouillabaisse."
My old accustom'd corner here is--
The table still is in the nook;
Ah! vanished many a busy year is,
This well-known chair since last I took.
When first I saw ye, cari luoghi,
I'd scarce a beard upon my face,
And now a grizzled, grim old fogy,
I sit and wait for Bouillabaisse.
Where are you, old companions trusty
Of early days, here met to dine?
Come, waiter! quick, a flagon crusty --
I'll pledge them in the good old wine.
The kind old voices and old faces
My memory can quick retrace;
Around the board they take their places,
And share the wine and Bouillabaisse.
There's Jack has made a wondrous marriage;
There's laughing Tom is laughing yet;
There's brave Augustus drives his carriage;
There's poor old Fred in the Gazette;
On James's head the grass is growing:
Good Lord! the world has wagged apace
Since here we sat the Claret flowing,
And drank, and ate the Bouillabaisse.
Ah me! how quick the days are flitting!
I mind me of a time that's gone,
When here I'd sit, as now I'm sitting,
In this same place--but not alone.
A fair young form was nestled near me,
A dear, dear face looked fondly up,
And sweetly spoke and smiled to cheer me.
-- There's no one now to share my cup.
. . . . . . . .
I drink it as the Fates ordain it.
Come, fill it, and have done with rhymes;
Fill up the lonely glass, and drain it
In memory of dear old times.
Welcome the wine, whate'er the seal is;
And sit you down and say your grace
With thankful heart, whate'er the meal is.
Here comes the smoking Bouillabaisse !
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:33:31 +0800
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Summation Indices
At yahoo group site, if you search on Amibroker, then you will find the
various AB groups
Also I think they are all listed at the AB website
Cheers,
Graham
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http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Kroutil [mailto:wayne100@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:23 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
Where can I find and sign up for the AFL group?
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Dugas
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
Hi,
For what its worth, I agree that e-mails are the way to go, especially since
Yahoo started deleting attachments. For those that don't subscribe to
e-mails, I will post the attachments to my folder in the Amibroker-AFL
group. Should be ready in about 10 mins.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: ed2000nl
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
Joe,
maybe a suggestion. Let Yahoo send all new messages to your Email
adres. See: "Edit My Membership"
I send all messages to my local provider and can see the attachment
then.
regards, Ed
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joseph Landry" <jelandry@xxxx>
wrote:
> -Steve - Here's my village idiot question. I'd love to look at how
> you calculated the SIs since I'm been trying to match trade
> generated McClellan Summation Index for a Beasley Score card...in
> another area and would like too calc them for the Sectors.
However...
> my forum notes always come up empty on attachments - says
attachment
> not stored, same for GIFs.... so unless I'm missing something
> obvious on my Yahoo forum preferences,/browser security - these
> attachments are not visible to me. If it's possible to receive
> attachments via the forum please let me know, and would you store
> these AFLs in the library?
>
> Thanks
> Joe Landry
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:41:51 -0000
From: "gerard_carey" <gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Thanks Graham
But I was hoping for one that
took me directly to the
Profile/Quote/Financials of
the 'current' stock as does
the Yahoo one I use for the
US market.
Regds Gerard
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
Try this one
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?
searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}&companyName=&principal
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@x...]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:26 AM
To: AB Yahoo group
Subject: [amibroker] Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View
URL
>
> Yeah g'day
>
> I'm trying to set up profile view for the ASX
> (Australian Market) and would appreciate
> any advice on a suitable URL.
> In anticipatory thanks may I offer the
> opportunity to enjoy a favourite poem by
> William Makepeace Thackeray.
>
> 'THE BALLAD OF BOUILLABAISSE'
>
> A STREET there is in Paris famous,
> For which no rhyme our language yields,
> Rue Neuve de petits Champs its name is --
> The New Street of the Little Fields;
> And there's an inn, not rich and splendid,
> But still in comfortable case;
> The which in youth I oft attended,
> To eat a bowl of Bouillabaisse.
>
> This Bouillabaisse a noble dish is --
> A sort of soup, or broth, or brew,
> Or hotchpotch of all sorts of fishes,
> That Greenwich never could outdo;
> Green herbs, red peppers, muscles, saffern,
> Soles, onions, garlic, roach, and dace;
> All these you eat at Terré's tavern,
> In that one dish of Bouillabaisse.
>
> Indeed, a rich and savory stew 'tis;
> And true philosophers, methinks,
> Who love all sorts of natural beauties,
> Should love good victuals and good drinks.
> And Cordelier or Benedictine
> Might gladly, sure, his lot embrace,
> Nor find a fast-day too afflicting,
> Which served him up a Bouillabaisse.
>
> I wonder if the house still there is?
> Yes, here the lamp is as before;
> The smiling, red-cheek'd écaillère is
> Still opening oysters at the door.
> Is Terré still alive and able?
> I recollect his droll grimace;
> He'd come and smile before your table,
> And hoped you like your Bouillabaisse.
>
> We enter; nothing's changed or older.
> "How's Monsieur Terré, waiter, pray?"
> The waiter stares and shrugs his shoulder --
> "Monsieur is dead this many a day."
> "It is the lot of saint and sinner.
> So honest Terré's run his race!"
> "What will Monsieur require for dinner?"
> "Say, do you still cook Bouillabaisse?"
>
> "Oh, oui, Monsieur," 's the waiter's answer;
> "Quel vin Monsieur désire-t-il ?"
> Tell me a good one." "That I can, sir;
> The Chambertin with yellow seal."
> "So Terré's gone," I say, and sink in
> My old accustom'd corner-place;
> "He's done with feasting and with drinking,
> With Burgundy and Bouillabaisse."
>
> My old accustom'd corner here is--
> The table still is in the nook;
> Ah! vanished many a busy year is,
> This well-known chair since last I took.
> When first I saw ye, cari luoghi,
> I'd scarce a beard upon my face,
> And now a grizzled, grim old fogy,
> I sit and wait for Bouillabaisse.
>
> Where are you, old companions trusty
> Of early days, here met to dine?
> Come, waiter! quick, a flagon crusty --
> I'll pledge them in the good old wine.
> The kind old voices and old faces
> My memory can quick retrace;
> Around the board they take their places,
> And share the wine and Bouillabaisse.
>
> There's Jack has made a wondrous marriage;
> There's laughing Tom is laughing yet;
> There's brave Augustus drives his carriage;
> There's poor old Fred in the Gazette;
> On James's head the grass is growing:
> Good Lord! the world has wagged apace
> Since here we sat the Claret flowing,
> And drank, and ate the Bouillabaisse.
>
> Ah me! how quick the days are flitting!
> I mind me of a time that's gone,
> When here I'd sit, as now I'm sitting,
> In this same place--but not alone.
> A fair young form was nestled near me,
> A dear, dear face looked fondly up,
> And sweetly spoke and smiled to cheer me.
> -- There's no one now to share my cup.
>
> . . . . . . . .
>
> I drink it as the Fates ordain it.
> Come, fill it, and have done with rhymes;
> Fill up the lonely glass, and drain it
> In memory of dear old times.
> Welcome the wine, whate'er the seal is;
> And sit you down and say your grace
> With thankful heart, whate'er the meal is.
> Here comes the smoking Bouillabaisse !
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:45:15 +0800
From: "Bruce H." <bwh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: OT: Some interesting reading on recent Gold price Movements
How Governments Manipulate the Gold Market - A Primer
Copyright © 2003 by Freemarket Gold & Money Report. All Rights
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First published on October 6, 2003 in FGMR #332
After gold trading closed in New York on Friday $13.70 lower from the
previous day, a Reuters article gave the following reason for gold's rout:
"Gold tumbled 3.5 percent in New York on Friday as the first rise in U.S.
payrolls in eight months lifted anxiety about economic growth and undermined
the safe-haven case for bullion days after it had hit seven-year highs."
Their point of view sounds plausible I suppose, though I think the
recent "seven-year highs" in gold are far more telling about gold's
prospects than any one month's economic data. But regardless of whether
Reuters conclusion makes economic sense or not, the payrolls data was
released at 8.30am, and gold's sell-off didn't start until 12.10pm, almost
fours hours later. Therefore, did we see a delayed knee-jerk reaction to the
data? Or was some other factor at work?
In my view, it was clearly the latter. It is now becoming a well-known
'secret' that governments are trying to manage the gold price by actively
intervening in the gold market, and Friday's trading was a good example of
their fiddling with the free-market process. Here are some pointers for
everyone interested in learning how governments intervene in the gold
market.
(1) Work with a proxy. The US Exchange Stabilization Fund is the
ringleader of the government's manipulation efforts, but it never enters the
market directly itself, regardless whether it is intervening in the currency
or the gold market. It works with proxies in order to cover its tracks. The
secretive ESF places its orders to intervene with the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York, which carries out all intervention for the US government as
well as all orders from foreign central banks placed for execution during US
market hours.
When asked about its activity, the FRBNY never discloses for whom it
is acting, claiming that its account agreements bind it to respect the
confidentiality of its customers. But this approach is still not enough to
hide the tracks of the ESF and the various governments who intervene to
distort normal market forces. They want more cover, so the FRBNY places
these government instigated trading orders with the big New York banks.
Because these banks have such huge trading volume, the logic is that
government instigated trading will be hidden amidst the huge order flow
handled by these banks.
This line of attack to hide the government's trades works, except when
the government's orders are so huge and one-sided that they overwhelm normal
market forces. So it stands to reason that the repetitive and continuing
entry by banks like Morgan Chase and Morgan Stanley on the sell side of the
gold market at particularly critical market junctures and at unusual times
smacks of government intervention. This unholy alliance, also known to some
as the Washington/Wall Street Axis, demonstrates that these two forces are
in bed with each other to serve their mutual benefit. The banks that act as
government agents aim to make money anyway they can, even if it means taking
despicable steps that are unfair and harmful to those unaware when the
government intervenes. For its part, the government aims to distort markets
from operating normally. Why does the government do this?
Because market prices communicate information, sometimes that
information runs counter to what governments would like us to hear and
believe. So governments intervene in a market by preventing it from alerting
us of the market-message that governments don't want us to hear. For
example, we all know that the message of a rising gold price means that the
dollar is headed for rough times, which is useful and important knowledge.
But the government is more concerned about protecting its own interests and
those of the banks who help it manipulate markets, rather than letting us
receive a useful market-message to help protect our wealth.
(2) Wait until after the London market closes, which because of the
time change is 12.00 noon New York time. The London market is basically a
market for physical gold, while New York trades paper, which just represents
promises to pay gold. There's a big difference between these two markets. It
is easy to manipulate paper because all a government has to do is to create
these paper promises 'out of thin air', just like they do all the time when
they intervene in the foreign exchange markets. But governments cannot
create physical gold 'out of thin air'.
Therefore, they tend to stay away from the London market, and only put
physical gold into their market interventions sparingly because once they
are out of physical (or unwilling to use what they have left, which was the
case with President Nixon in 1971), their intervention game is over.
On Friday gold closed in London at $382.75, $13.35 above the New York
close only 1½ hours later. So clearly, the government through its compliant
bank agents only bombed the paper market.
(3) Intervene on a Friday afternoon in order to have the maximum
impact from your intervention. The reason is clear because after 12.00 noon
New York time, not only is London closed, but the rest of the world is
closed as well. This afternoon period in New York represents the moment when
the least amount of liquidity is in the market. So if government interveners
want 'more bang for their buck', they can get it when the rest of the world
is asleep or already enjoying their weekend.
The limited liquidity that is the dominant characteristic of the New
York market on Friday afternoon makes it easier for the interveners to get
bigger price moves, which then gives them a corollary benefit. A big price
move can scare people, particularly when they have the whole weekend to
think and worry about what the next week will bring. That result gives
governments even more 'bang for their buck'.
(4) Just keep selling & selling. When you intervene in the market on a
Friday afternoon with the intention of forcing the market lower, you begin
selling short. Because you are the government and you are only creating
promises to pay gold 'out of thin air', you just keep selling and selling
until you hit key sell-stops resting in the market. After all, who is going
to give the government a margin call? Consequently, there is no practical
limit as to how many paper promises the government can sell. So how much do
they sell? Simple, they sell enough until they complete their task, which is
to drive the market lower. But they also use the market itself to help them
accomplish their objective of lowering the gold price. Here is how they do
it.
It was no secret that $378 had become an important support point, and
that consequently, it was obvious that a large number of longs had placed
sell-stops under that level, or intended to sell if that level was broken.
So let's assume that the government starts selling and selling and that it
takes them 20,000 contracts in thin Friday afternoon trading to force the
market down to the point where the $378 level is broken. The government's
selling is now complete. Its mission is accomplished because of the new
selling that is generated when support at $378 is broken. The market is now
being driven lower by the longs who begin selling to cut losses or protect
profits.
As the market heads further below $378 support, more and more
sell-stops are generated because the snowball started by the government is
now rolling downhill on its own momentum. Then the government interveners
step back in and slowly begin buying back their 20,000 contract short 'paper
gold' position as the gold price heads down. They buy what the longs are now
selling, enabling the government to cover its short position.
The net result is that the government ends the day with no position,
and assuming they made $8 per ounce on average (which is not an unreasonable
assumption given Friday's $13 drubbing), the government walks away with $160
million picked from the pocket of the longs - loot that it splits with the
banks who acted as their agent. More importantly to the government, it
achieved its primary objective, which is to distort the free-market process
by forcing a lower gold price, thus hindering yet again the market-message
that the dollar is in trouble and that people should be stocking up with
gold for the tough times ahead. And the government did it without using one
ounce of physical metal.
So that's how they do it. Further proof will emerge later today when
Comex reports Friday's drop in open interest. It may not be 20,000
contracts, but I would be surprised if it is less than 12,000. But if the
drop turns out to be less than 8,000 contracts, given Friday's estimated
volume of 165,000 contracts (of which 125,000 apparently occurred after
12.10 when the government started intervening), then the shorts are in real
trouble.
A small drop in open interest would mean that too few longs were
scared out of the market in Friday's price plunge, and that as a
consequence, the longs are tenacious in looking for higher prices. In that
case, the shorts with their huge position have become even more vulnerable.
Further, if open interest drops by less than 8,000 contracts, look for gold
to quickly rally, back into the $375-$385 range seen the past four weeks.
Do I have documents proving the government intervention I discuss
above? No, but the body of evidence developed over the past few years by me
(see www.fgmr.com), www.GATA.org, Reg Howe (see www.goldensextant.com),
Frank Veneroso (see
http://http://goldmoney.com/en/commentary/2003-09-04.html) as well as many
others is not only huge and compelling, but this body of evidence continues
to grow. What's more, I've just made a new discovery, but let me start with
a little background information.
Back in December 2000 I wrote "The Smoking Gun"
http://www.fgmr.com/smokegun.htm and noted the discrepancy between the size
of the US gold stock published by the Federal Reserve in its monthly
Bulletin, which included "gold held by the ESF" in its report, and the size
of the gold stock published by the US Treasury in its monthly Bulletin. The
two reports were different, establishing that the ESF held gold or owed gold
(because in some months the discrepancy was a negative balance) at the
month-end record dates in which there was a discrepancy, which was virtually
every month from the end of 1996 to my December 2000 publication date.
Then less than two months after the publication of my discovery, the
Federal Reserve in February 2001 inexplicably changed its reporting of the
gold stock to delete any reference to the ESF, thus making its record of the
size of the US gold stock equal to the Treasury's report. This hasty change
by the Fed is reported in: http://www.fgmr.com/whatgold.htm
This after the fact 'adjustment' to US government reports was
revealing, given that the government felt sufficiently compelled to hide
further the tracks of the ESF to make this embarrassing change to its
reports. But that appeared to be the end of this little window into the
operation of the shadowy ESF because the Fed was no longer reporting the US
gold reserve plus the ESF's gold balance. Or so I thought.
Recently I was analyzing the Fed's audited balance sheet released in
its 2002 annual report, and I noticed that the discrepancy has reappeared.
As of December 31, 2002, the Federal Reserve reports $11,039 million in its
Gold Certificate Account, but as of the same day, the US Treasury Bulletin
reported the US Gold Reserve to be $11,043 million. At the $42.22 book value
used to record these entries, there is a discrepancy of 94,741 ounces of
gold on that one day. What is the reason for this divergence in these two
reports?
It seems obvious that this difference is the weight of gold held by
the ESF, which used to be reported by the Federal Reserve in its monthly
Bulletin. The divergence between the two reports has again reappeared
because the Fed can report in its monthly Bulletin whatever it wants to
include, or in this case, exclude. But it cannot exclude the impact of the
ESF on its year-end financial statement because if it did, it auditors,
KPMG, would not give an unqualified opinion in the audit. So even though the
Fed, presumably under the direction of the ESF, tried to re-write history by
changing their monthly unaudited reports, in the end they failed because
their manipulation of the gold market has now been exposed in the Fed's
audited financial statements, which raises an interesting question.
Does this blatant management of the gold market by the US government
mean that we should not buy gold? Definitely not, unless you would rather
rely upon the hollow promises of politicians instead of the proven and
reliable trustworthiness of gold. And regardless of any short-term
considerations such as Friday's trading action in the paper market for gold,
consider instead the important long-term case for gold. Recently, it was
summed up wonderfully by fund manager John Embry. His article - "15
Fundamental Reasons to Own Gold" - has been posted to the GoldMoney website,
so there is no need to get into it here, except to say that the long-term
potential for gold is truly outstanding. See:
http://goldmoney.com/en/commentary.php. Each of John's fifteen reasons
offers sufficient incentive in itself to continue buying and accumulating
gold each month as your cash-flow allows.
In summary, government manipulators and their bank agents won another
battle on Friday to keep the gold price under control. However, it is clear
that they are losing the war.
Since touching $252 over four years ago, gold has been in a primary
bull market. There is a steady and resilient worldwide movement out of
national currencies into gold, and given all the fundamental reasons to own
gold in preference to any national currency, I expect that gold's primary
bull market will continue.
Consequently, Friday's setback will soon be forgotten, and while it
hurts to see any market trashed in this way by the government, there is a
bright side to it. Friday's late-day sell-off has no doubt converted many
more, who had been skeptical, about government manipulation in the gold
market. Yes, even though the government intervenes in seemingly every
market, there still are some who believe that the government doesn't
intervene in the gold market. But that group is rapidly declining in number,
and not only because of blatant manipulations like the one that occurred on
Friday. Another factor is at work.
All one has to do is look at the dollar and its bleak prospects. Given
that sorry future, it is no wonder that people are increasingly moving into
gold, which explains the recent "seven-year highs" in gold noted in the
Reuters article. When one sees what is happening to the dollar, they opt for
gold regardless of the government manipulation. The ongoing destruction of
the purchasing power of the dollar and the relative undervaluation of gold
increasingly makes gold the prudent choice.
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:47:48 +0800
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Here is the list I have tried from various sources
http://investor.ninemsn.com.au/investor/shares/research/profile.asp?code={t}
&cntry=au
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/AnnHeadersForIssuer.jsp?ASXCode={t}&Tim
eFrame=past_week&x=5&y=14
https://www.etradeaustralia.com.au/application/index.asp?
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?symbol={t}&table=ASX
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?view=news&Displaycurrency=&symbol
={t}&table=ASX
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?view=news&Displaycurrency=&symbol
=ERG&table=ASX
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: gerard_carey [mailto:gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:42 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Thanks Graham
But I was hoping for one that
took me directly to the
Profile/Quote/Financials of
the 'current' stock as does
the Yahoo one I use for the
US market.
Regds Gerard
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
Try this one
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?
searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}&companyName=&principal
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@x...]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:26 AM
To: AB Yahoo group
Subject: [amibroker] Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View
URL
>
> Yeah g'day
>
> I'm trying to set up profile view for the ASX
> (Australian Market) and would appreciate
> any advice on a suitable URL.
> In anticipatory thanks may I offer the
> opportunity to enjoy a favourite poem by
> William Makepeace Thackeray.
>
> 'THE BALLAD OF BOUILLABAISSE'
>
> A STREET there is in Paris famous,
> For which no rhyme our language yields,
> Rue Neuve de petits Champs its name is --
> The New Street of the Little Fields;
> And there's an inn, not rich and splendid,
> But still in comfortable case;
> The which in youth I oft attended,
> To eat a bowl of Bouillabaisse.
>
> This Bouillabaisse a noble dish is --
> A sort of soup, or broth, or brew,
> Or hotchpotch of all sorts of fishes,
> That Greenwich never could outdo;
> Green herbs, red peppers, muscles, saffern,
> Soles, onions, garlic, roach, and dace;
> All these you eat at Terré's tavern,
> In that one dish of Bouillabaisse.
>
> Indeed, a rich and savory stew 'tis;
> And true philosophers, methinks,
> Who love all sorts of natural beauties,
> Should love good victuals and good drinks.
> And Cordelier or Benedictine
> Might gladly, sure, his lot embrace,
> Nor find a fast-day too afflicting,
> Which served him up a Bouillabaisse.
>
> I wonder if the house still there is?
> Yes, here the lamp is as before;
> The smiling, red-cheek'd écaillère is
> Still opening oysters at the door.
> Is Terré still alive and able?
> I recollect his droll grimace;
> He'd come and smile before your table,
> And hoped you like your Bouillabaisse.
>
> We enter; nothing's changed or older.
> "How's Monsieur Terré, waiter, pray?"
> The waiter stares and shrugs his shoulder --
> "Monsieur is dead this many a day."
> "It is the lot of saint and sinner.
> So honest Terré's run his race!"
> "What will Monsieur require for dinner?"
> "Say, do you still cook Bouillabaisse?"
>
> "Oh, oui, Monsieur," 's the waiter's answer;
> "Quel vin Monsieur désire-t-il ?"
> Tell me a good one." "That I can, sir;
> The Chambertin with yellow seal."
> "So Terré's gone," I say, and sink in
> My old accustom'd corner-place;
> "He's done with feasting and with drinking,
> With Burgundy and Bouillabaisse."
>
> My old accustom'd corner here is--
> The table still is in the nook;
> Ah! vanished many a busy year is,
> This well-known chair since last I took.
> When first I saw ye, cari luoghi,
> I'd scarce a beard upon my face,
> And now a grizzled, grim old fogy,
> I sit and wait for Bouillabaisse.
>
> Where are you, old companions trusty
> Of early days, here met to dine?
> Come, waiter! quick, a flagon crusty --
> I'll pledge them in the good old wine.
> The kind old voices and old faces
> My memory can quick retrace;
> Around the board they take their places,
> And share the wine and Bouillabaisse.
>
> There's Jack has made a wondrous marriage;
> There's laughing Tom is laughing yet;
> There's brave Augustus drives his carriage;
> There's poor old Fred in the Gazette;
> On James's head the grass is growing:
> Good Lord! the world has wagged apace
> Since here we sat the Claret flowing,
> And drank, and ate the Bouillabaisse.
>
> Ah me! how quick the days are flitting!
> I mind me of a time that's gone,
> When here I'd sit, as now I'm sitting,
> In this same place--but not alone.
> A fair young form was nestled near me,
> A dear, dear face looked fondly up,
> And sweetly spoke and smiled to cheer me.
> -- There's no one now to share my cup.
>
> . . . . . . . .
>
> I drink it as the Fates ordain it.
> Come, fill it, and have done with rhymes;
> Fill up the lonely glass, and drain it
> In memory of dear old times.
> Welcome the wine, whate'er the seal is;
> And sit you down and say your grace
> With thankful heart, whate'er the meal is.
> Here comes the smoking Bouillabaisse !
>
>
>
>
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>
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:01:47 -0500
From: "Wayne Kroutil" <wayne100@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Summation Indices
Thanks Graham---Have a good day.
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
> At yahoo group site, if you search on Amibroker, then you will find the
> various AB groups
> Also I think they are all listed at the AB website
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Graham
> http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
> http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Kroutil [mailto:wayne100@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:23 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
>
>
> Where can I find and sign up for the AFL group?
> Wayne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Dugas
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
>
>
> Hi,
>
> For what its worth, I agree that e-mails are the way to go, especially
since
> Yahoo started deleting attachments. For those that don't subscribe to
> e-mails, I will post the attachments to my folder in the Amibroker-AFL
> group. Should be ready in about 10 mins.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ed2000nl
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:17 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Summation Indices
>
>
> Joe,
>
> maybe a suggestion. Let Yahoo send all new messages to your Email
> adres. See: "Edit My Membership"
>
> I send all messages to my local provider and can see the attachment
> then.
>
> regards, Ed
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joseph Landry" <jelandry@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > -Steve - Here's my village idiot question. I'd love to look at how
> > you calculated the SIs since I'm been trying to match trade
> > generated McClellan Summation Index for a Beasley Score card...in
> > another area and would like too calc them for the Sectors.
> However...
> > my forum notes always come up empty on attachments - says
> attachment
> > not stored, same for GIFs.... so unless I'm missing something
> > obvious on my Yahoo forum preferences,/browser security - these
> > attachments are not visible to me. If it's possible to receive
> > attachments via the forum please let me know, and would you store
> > these AFLs in the library?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe Landry
>
>
>
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:05:26 -0000
From: "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: More Random thoughts.....
Hi,
To make a trading system profitable, we need a good money mangement
system in-addition to a good signal detection, verification and
interpretation system.
I find it very difficult to automate good money management
strategies. Sometimes, you have to enter the market at MOO (previous
session's close price), sometimes at High Of Day/Low Of Day etc.,
Sometimes you have to Pyramid/Pillar your losing positions and then
close out your losing positions at break even price. Sometimes you
have to have wide stops, sometimes narrow stops, sometimes no stops
(combine options with the straight underlying instrument). Sometimes
the data is not accurate and so your back-testing results are bogus.
It is just too complex to automate all of them. The best I can do is
to record my trades and co-relate with my trading report from my
account.
I do not believe the back-testing report created by the software. I
don't think it is prudent to base your trading just on these back-
testing results. You have to test it in the real-world for about 1
year with real-world money-management strategies or atleast a
simulation account. It is a very slow process... one needs a hell
of a lot of patience, especially when you see your simulation account
grossing returns of over 20% a day...
Maybe the new portfolio tester...
Regards,
Pal
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jtelang" <jtelang@xxxx> wrote:
> > After all, the bottom line is to make money! And not to second
> guess
> > what you think might occur next. The market is always right!
>
> Amen!
>
> I have a random question. Speaking of making money, how/what kind
of
> profitable systems have people in this group developed using AB? Do
> we have any heavy hitters who've written systems showing
_consistent_
> 100+% return systems using AB? Anyone interested in results of such
a
> quick survey?
>
> I myself am currently testing a system which shows following, which
> I'm in the process of confirming as I keep finding bugs in it :-) -
>
> Trading type: Stocks (only long plays)
> Period: Short term, 2-5 days in a trade.
> Avg annual return over last 5 years of data: Around 30%
> Max system % drawdown: 20%
>
> I know its certainly not a high flying system by any means, but at
> the same time I also read everywhere that most traders end up
losing
> money, so at least by that standard it sounds like a good one to
> start with. :-)
>
> Would love to hear statistics from other experts here. I'm sure
> there're lots of them...
>
> Jitu
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe"
<run_for_your_life2003@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, trust you signals because if they give you the wrong signal
> > you can only blame yourself for your mistakes.
> > At the moment a lot of investors thinks this market will tank in
> > October! I still buy according to the signals on my graph!
> >
> > Will the majority be fooled this month thinking a downmove in
> stocks
> > and in reality happens in November. I buy my stocks according to
my
> > signals! Very rarely listen to news on television or the
newspaper
> > and do a much better job on investing now.
> >
> > After all, the bottom line is to make money! And not to second
> guess
> > what you think might occur next. The market is always right!
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > READ NOTHING, LISTEN TO NO ONE, EXCEPT YOUR SIGNALS... SIGNALS
> > TALK
> > > TO YOU, SOMETIMES THEY SCREAM...
> > >
> > > LEARN TO BUY ON BEARISH NEWS AND SELL ON BULLISH NEWS
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Pal
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > THE TREND IS YOUR FRIEND BUT NOT WHEN IT IS GOING TO END....
> > > > CUT YOUR LOSSES SHORT & LET YOUR PROFITS RUN....
> > > > THERE IS A TIME TO GO SHORT, A TIME TO GO LONG, AND A TIME TO
> GO
> > > > FISHING....
> > > > BUY LOW, SELL HIGH....
> > > > BUY EAGERLY, SELL RELUCTANTLY....
> > > > YOU CAN'T CHERRY PICK SIGNALS, YOU HAVE TO TRADE EVERY DAMN
ONE
> > OF
> > > > THEM....
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pal
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:06:14 +0800
From: "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Oh fogot this one
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/q?m=a&s={t}&d=t&k=c1&t=1d&a=v&p=s&l=on&z=l&q=c
Cheers,
Graham
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http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Graham [mailto:gkavanagh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:48 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View
URL
Here is the list I have tried from various sources
http://investor.ninemsn.com.au/investor/shares/research/profile.asp?code={t}
&cntry=au
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/AnnHeadersForIssuer.jsp?ASXCode={t}&Tim
eFrame=past_week&x=5&y=14
https://www.etradeaustralia.com.au/application/index.asp?
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?symbol={t}&table=ASX
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?view=news&Displaycurrency=&symbol
={t}&table=ASX
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?view=news&Displaycurrency=&symbol
=ERG&table=ASX
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: gerard_carey [mailto:gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:42 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View URL
Thanks Graham
But I was hoping for one that
took me directly to the
Profile/Quote/Financials of
the 'current' stock as does
the Yahoo one I use for the
US market.
Regds Gerard
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
Try this one
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?
searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}&companyName=&principal
Cheers,
Graham
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http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@x...]
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 10:26 AM
To: AB Yahoo group
Subject: [amibroker] Trade You........ A poem.... for a Profile View
URL
>
> Yeah g'day
>
> I'm trying to set up profile view for the ASX
> (Australian Market) and would appreciate
> any advice on a suitable URL.
> In anticipatory thanks may I offer the
> opportunity to enjoy a favourite poem by
> William Makepeace Thackeray.
>
> 'THE BALLAD OF BOUILLABAISSE'
>
> A STREET there is in Paris famous,
> For which no rhyme our language yields,
> Rue Neuve de petits Champs its name is --
> The New Street of the Little Fields;
> And there's an inn, not rich and splendid,
> But still in comfortable case;
> The which in youth I oft attended,
> To eat a bowl of Bouillabaisse.
>
> This Bouillabaisse a noble dish is --
> A sort of soup, or broth, or brew,
> Or hotchpotch of all sorts of fishes,
> That Greenwich never could outdo;
> Green herbs, red peppers, muscles, saffern,
> Soles, onions, garlic, roach, and dace;
> All these you eat at Terré's tavern,
> In that one dish of Bouillabaisse.
>
> Indeed, a rich and savory stew 'tis;
> And true philosophers, methinks,
> Who love all sorts of natural beauties,
> Should love good victuals and good drinks.
> And Cordelier or Benedictine
> Might gladly, sure, his lot embrace,
> Nor find a fast-day too afflicting,
> Which served him up a Bouillabaisse.
>
> I wonder if the house still there is?
> Yes, here the lamp is as before;
> The smiling, red-cheek'd écaillère is
> Still opening oysters at the door.
> Is Terré still alive and able?
> I recollect his droll grimace;
> He'd come and smile before your table,
> And hoped you like your Bouillabaisse.
>
> We enter; nothing's changed or older.
> "How's Monsieur Terré, waiter, pray?"
> The waiter stares and shrugs his shoulder --
> "Monsieur is dead this many a day."
> "It is the lot of saint and sinner.
> So honest Terré's run his race!"
> "What will Monsieur require for dinner?"
> "Say, do you still cook Bouillabaisse?"
>
> "Oh, oui, Monsieur," 's the waiter's answer;
> "Quel vin Monsieur désire-t-il ?"
> Tell me a good one." "That I can, sir;
> The Chambertin with yellow seal."
> "So Terré's gone," I say, and sink in
> My old accustom'd corner-place;
> "He's done with feasting and with drinking,
> With Burgundy and Bouillabaisse."
>
> My old accustom'd corner here is--
> The table still is in the nook;
> Ah! vanished many a busy year is,
> This well-known chair since last I took.
> When first I saw ye, cari luoghi,
> I'd scarce a beard upon my face,
> And now a grizzled, grim old fogy,
> I sit and wait for Bouillabaisse.
>
> Where are you, old companions trusty
> Of early days, here met to dine?
> Come, waiter! quick, a flagon crusty --
> I'll pledge them in the good old wine.
> The kind old voices and old faces
> My memory can quick retrace;
> Around the board they take their places,
> And share the wine and Bouillabaisse.
>
> There's Jack has made a wondrous marriage;
> There's laughing Tom is laughing yet;
> There's brave Augustus drives his carriage;
> There's poor old Fred in the Gazette;
> On James's head the grass is growing:
> Good Lord! the world has wagged apace
> Since here we sat the Claret flowing,
> And drank, and ate the Bouillabaisse.
>
> Ah me! how quick the days are flitting!
> I mind me of a time that's gone,
> When here I'd sit, as now I'm sitting,
> In this same place--but not alone.
> A fair young form was nestled near me,
> A dear, dear face looked fondly up,
> And sweetly spoke and smiled to cheer me.
> -- There's no one now to share my cup.
>
> . . . . . . . .
>
> I drink it as the Fates ordain it.
> Come, fill it, and have done with rhymes;
> Fill up the lonely glass, and drain it
> In memory of dear old times.
> Welcome the wine, whate'er the seal is;
> And sit you down and say your grace
> With thankful heart, whate'er the meal is.
> Here comes the smoking Bouillabaisse !
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:45:10 -0000
From: "gerard_carey" <gcfinance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trade You.... A poem...for a Profile View URL
Thanks again
I'll try them out. I just remembered StockNessMonster.com which used
to give daily, easily accessible, 'course of trades info also
Regds Gerard
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
Here is the list I have tried from various sources
http://investor.ninemsn.com.au/investor/shares/research/profile.asp?
code={t}
&cntry=au
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?
searchBy=asx
Code&allinfo=on&asxCode={t}
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/AnnHeadersForIssuer.jsp?ASXCode=
{t}&Tim
eFrame=past_week&x=5&y=14
https://www.etradeaustralia.com.au/application/index.asp?
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?symbol={t}&table=ASX
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?
view=news&Displaycurrency=&symbol
={t}&table=ASX
http://www.stockhouse.com.au/comp_info.asp?
view=news&Displaycurrency=&symbol
=ERG&table=ASX
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:07:30 -0000
From: "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: More Random thoughts.....
I'd like to see the equity curve and statistics for the past 5 or 6
years from an automated system where you're getting 20% per day. If
you could generate those kind of returns people would be coming out
of the woodwork to bankroll your trading. After all beginning with a
balance of $100k you'd have close to $10b after 3 months. Then of
course you'd need to ante up some fairly fat estimated tax payment
for uncle.
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To make a trading system profitable, we need a good money mangement
> system in-addition to a good signal detection, verification and
> interpretation system.
>
> I find it very difficult to automate good money management
> strategies. Sometimes, you have to enter the market at MOO
(previous
> session's close price), sometimes at High Of Day/Low Of Day etc.,
> Sometimes you have to Pyramid/Pillar your losing positions and then
> close out your losing positions at break even price. Sometimes you
> have to have wide stops, sometimes narrow stops, sometimes no stops
> (combine options with the straight underlying instrument).
Sometimes
> the data is not accurate and so your back-testing results are
bogus.
> It is just too complex to automate all of them. The best I can do
is
> to record my trades and co-relate with my trading report from my
> account.
>
> I do not believe the back-testing report created by the software.
I
> don't think it is prudent to base your trading just on these back-
> testing results. You have to test it in the real-world for about 1
> year with real-world money-management strategies or atleast a
> simulation account. It is a very slow process... one needs a hell
> of a lot of patience, especially when you see your simulation
account
> grossing returns of over 20% a day...
>
> Maybe the new portfolio tester...
>
> Regards,
>
> Pal
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jtelang" <jtelang@xxxx> wrote:
> > > After all, the bottom line is to make money! And not to second
> > guess
> > > what you think might occur next. The market is always right!
> >
> > Amen!
> >
> > I have a random question. Speaking of making money, how/what kind
> of
> > profitable systems have people in this group developed using AB?
Do
> > we have any heavy hitters who've written systems showing
> _consistent_
> > 100+% return systems using AB? Anyone interested in results of
such
> a
> > quick survey?
> >
> > I myself am currently testing a system which shows following,
which
> > I'm in the process of confirming as I keep finding bugs in it :-
) -
> >
> > Trading type: Stocks (only long plays)
> > Period: Short term, 2-5 days in a trade.
> > Avg annual return over last 5 years of data: Around 30%
> > Max system % drawdown: 20%
> >
> > I know its certainly not a high flying system by any means, but
at
> > the same time I also read everywhere that most traders end up
> losing
> > money, so at least by that standard it sounds like a good one to
> > start with. :-)
> >
> > Would love to hear statistics from other experts here. I'm sure
> > there're lots of them...
> >
> > Jitu
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe"
> <run_for_your_life2003@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > Yeah, trust you signals because if they give you the wrong
signal
> > > you can only blame yourself for your mistakes.
> > > At the moment a lot of investors thinks this market will tank
in
> > > October! I still buy according to the signals on my graph!
> > >
> > > Will the majority be fooled this month thinking a downmove in
> > stocks
> > > and in reality happens in November. I buy my stocks according
to
> my
> > > signals! Very rarely listen to news on television or the
> newspaper
> > > and do a much better job on investing now.
> > >
> > > After all, the bottom line is to make money! And not to second
> > guess
> > > what you think might occur next. The market is always right!
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > READ NOTHING, LISTEN TO NO ONE, EXCEPT YOUR SIGNALS...
SIGNALS
> > > TALK
> > > > TO YOU, SOMETIMES THEY SCREAM...
> > > >
> > > > LEARN TO BUY ON BEARISH NEWS AND SELL ON BULLISH NEWS
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pal
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand"
<palsanand@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > THE TREND IS YOUR FRIEND BUT NOT WHEN IT IS GOING TO END....
> > > > > CUT YOUR LOSSES SHORT & LET YOUR PROFITS RUN....
> > > > > THERE IS A TIME TO GO SHORT, A TIME TO GO LONG, AND A TIME
TO
> > GO
> > > > > FISHING....
> > > > > BUY LOW, SELL HIGH....
> > > > > BUY EAGERLY, SELL RELUCTANTLY....
> > > > > YOU CAN'T CHERRY PICK SIGNALS, YOU HAVE TO TRADE EVERY DAMN
> ONE
> > > OF
> > > > > THEM....
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pal
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:49:44 -0400
From: "Dave Merrill" <dmerrill@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: More Random thoughts.....
as disappointing as it is to me, so far, every time I've come upon a
mechanical system with snazzy returns over a long period of time, especially
over a number of different tickers/markets, it's turned out that I was
peeking into the future a little by accident. I'm sure there must be some
systems where that's not the case that still do well, but I haven't found
them. yet. and no, I guess I'm not really *sure*, just hopeful.
I do think it's telling that my equity feedback experiments haven't been
more immediately fruitful. if past performance with a signal doesn't predict
future success with it, how reliable can it be? what does it mean that a
bunch of standard metrics don't perform all that impressively when managed
this way?
of course there's always a distinct possibility that my results mean nothing
because I've screwed up my coding, either out of sleep-short carelessness or
some misunderstanding of the new portfolio features. time and testing will
tell.
if others have great results, I'd love to know. if you don't want to
disclose your actual system, that's understandable. just indicating overall
performance and how you tested would be of interest to me, and I bet to
others.
dave
I'd like to see the equity curve and statistics for the past 5 or 6
years from an automated system where you're getting 20% per day. If
you could generate those kind of returns people would be coming out
of the woodwork to bankroll your trading. After all beginning with a
balance of $100k you'd have close to $10b after 3 months. Then of
course you'd need to ante up some fairly fat estimated tax payment
for uncle.
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