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[amibroker] Re: ^VLIC : The use of the D_ratio (for Steve)



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Steve,
You may replace the trading system of the example with your own and 
see the performance per period.
Perhaps the 2-year interval is big for some other systems, but for 
D_ratio is was almost necessary.
As for the D_ratio, the main principle is that for longer periods I 
use moving D1, D2 instead of fixed levels.
Searching from 1990 till now was quite interesting for various N100 
stocks. D_ratio was definitely better than B&H even for the non-
attractive cases. If you wonder for the reason, the answer is 
simple:D_ratio have had a good "contact" with profits the last 
[bearish] 3 years. This is the tough period for many systems. This is 
the main reason I try to concentrate to this environment.
DT
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "steve_almond" <steve2@xxxx> wrote:
> Dimitris,
> 
> More remarkable ideas! Testing against ^NDX with:
> 
> I=5
> Z=10
> k0=250
> K1=20
> K2=30
> 
> Gives remarkable results (and just a little curve fitting.....)
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" 
> <TSOKAKIS@xxxx> wrote:
> > Steve,
> > The
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/43353
> > code may help your investigation for the recent years
> > DT
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "steve_almond" <steve2@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > > Dimitris,
> > > 
> > > You raise an interesting question. Just how long is a sensible 
> > > backtest? Personally, I see no point in backtesting to 1960 let 
> > > alone 1930. The computer was hardly invented then, never mind 
> the 
> > > internet.
> > > What I do like to see is a period of rising prices and a period 
> of 
> > > falling prices. I want to include the most recent data, so that 
> > > means taking 2000-2003 as my falling period. The obvious choice 
> for 
> > > the rising period is now 1997-2000, the most recent relevant 
> period.
> > > Hence my test period is usually 1/1/1997 to yesterday.
> > > 
> > > I often think it would be beneficial if we all reported results 
> for 
> > > the same bunch of criteria, such as:
> > > 
> > > Date: 1/1/1997 - present
> > > Initial equity: $10,000
> > > Compounded: Yes (or No?)
> > > Commission: 0.5%
> > > 
> > > Etc. etc.
> > > 
> > > Of course, I don't expect my preferences to be selected, but a 
> > > discussion about a suitable set might be interesting.
> > > 
> > > After such a discussion, I would happily share my most 
> interesting 
> > > backtests (methods & results). Would anyone else?
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" 
> > > <TSOKAKIS@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > > I understand your comments, but there is a more tough 
> question: 
> > If 
> > > we 
> > > > make a 10 or 20-year study and it is consistent to some basic 
> > > > principles of the indicator and it is , hopefully, 
profitable, 
> > > shall 
> > > > we expect a repetition of the 20-year scenario ?
> > > > The 20-year study may be VERY attractive to force us think in 
> > this 
> > > > way. Is it correct? I really doubt. 
> > > > Anyway, i will temporarily forget these hesitations and give 
> some 
> > > > long-term descriptions, just for the dialogue. Give me some 
> more 
> > > time 
> > > > for the examples.
> > > > DT
> > > > >   Dimitris,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   We have visited this area before. The D-Ratio indicator 
> falls 
> > > > apart once
> > > > > taken out of the last few years of bearish conditions. See 
> the 
> > > > attached
> > > > > chart where D_Ratio for ^VLIC took us out of the ^NDX in 
mid 
> > > > November 1998
> > > > > at ~1460, and kept us on the sidelines as the ^NDX went to 
> > ~4700.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I know you don't keep data back before 2000, but you 
> should 
> > in 
> > > my
> > > > > opinion - unless you are sure that the coming year will be 
> like 
> > > > 2000-2002
> > > > > and not like 1997-1999! Even if you do not backtest on 1997-
> > 1999 
> > > > data, you
> > > > > should be prepared to observe the behaviour of your 
> excellent 
> > > > indicators
> > > > > during that period.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Steve
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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