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Im Guilty of this - As shown by may last post. ;-)
Im not a professional programer, But I did start out a long time ago. (C64
ASM)
Your pretty much on the mark With "finding the algorithm is rather automatic."
KR
Michael.
At 04:53 PM 4/06/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>Hi DT,
>
>Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 8:51:50 PM, you wrote:
>
>DT> I still believe that AFL should reach directly the average user.
>
>I agree, and I think TJ would too, because that is certainly where
>the bulk of the market is.
>
>So, how does this happen? Maybe I'm a good person to make a
>suggestion here, because perhaps I typify the "average user" in many
>respects.
>
>I am a non-programmer. I think most people are non-programmers (at
>least, people who are not natives of India). ^^_^^ For me, there
>are two difficulties. First, coming up with the algorithm that will
>do what I want is not easy at all for me. Some good examples of how
>to do this would be appreciated by the many non-programmer types out
>there, I'm sure. It takes a good deal of time and energy to get into
>this mode of thinking. Some short course would be helpful. Once I
>have the algorithm (and this is often *more* than half the battle), I
>have to translate that to AFL. Sometimes, the former is much harder
>than the latter, although when you really get complex the latter is
>no picnic either.
>
>So, to reach the "average user", I think some good explanations of
>how to approach finding the right algorithm are in order, full of
>easy to understand examples that get progressively more complex. Then
>an explanation of how to go from algorithm to AFL is in order.
>
>A lot of programmers try and teach the language before they have
>taught algorithm solving. That's because to them finding the
>algorithm is rather automatic. Years and years of practice and
>thinking that way have made it rather automatic. But to
>non-programmers unused to finding algorithms to solve problems, this
>is often the most difficult step. You want to learn the language, of
>course. But until you know how to come up with good algorithms, the
>language alone won't do you much good.
>
>My experiences traveling down this troublesome highway, anyway.
>
>Best,
>
>Yuki
>
>P.S. I think this is what is most difficult about "Help files".
>Mostly, they are written by programmers, and they assume you know way
>too much. ^_-
>
>I think a lot of people ask for help not so much because they can't
>master the language, but because they can't come up with the
>algorithm that will do what they want to do. Maybe I'm wrong, but
>that is my personal experience and take on this.
>
>
>
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