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Hello Dimitris,
I'm not going to waste my valuable time in nonsense
discussion of yours. FYI: I'm in the professional
SW development business for more than 15 years now.
I'm an MCSD (MS Certified Solution Developer),
MCSE+ (MS Certifed System Engineer), Sun Certified
Java Programmer, and have even some more titles,
if that makes you happy.
You criticize my code? Hey, you a non-programmer
think you can judge it better? In every language you
would solve the problem as presented. In AFL nothing
different is made. Within AFL there is a loop hidden to
the user which executes your code for each bar and stock
in range. The benefit of my solution is: all is done
programmatically, you don't need to do anything manual.
BTW, I'll even add a new function to ABtool which does
this task with just one function call only! It then will be
even shorter than the AFL code!
To make it short: I'm not interessted in any discussions
with you. Please respect this. I'm here because I'm a
registered AmiBroker user. I'm not interessted in your
ill mentality as was, again, demonstrated in your posting below.
Bye,
UM
----- Original Message -----
From: "DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" <TSOKAKIS@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: converting amibroker quotes into ascii format
> Dear UM,
> What are you talking about ?
> You are a programmer and you create a little monster to export data
> into a *.txt or a *.csv file.
> You should read first the users's guide, see what is readily
> available and then contribute with your programming knowledge and
> experience to solve what is NOT AVAILABLE for the present time for
> the benefit of amibroker users.
> You simply sacrifice the ultimate simplicity principle, in order to
> answer ANY question through your sophisticated tool.
> As for my codes, I did not see ANY question from you.
> Many users asked a lot of things and they have had a prompt reply, no
> matter if it was EXACTLY what they asked or it was a simple and
> honest "I don't know".
> If you don't understand my codes then you don't study AFL, because
> ANYTHING I HAVE POSTED is nothing but AFL.
> Sometimes my codes were not the shortest possible. The most creative
> in this open forum is the criticism : Tomasz, Peter, Herman, Ken,
> Bill (the Wavemechanic) to name a few criticised my methods/codes.
> The result was always creative for the benefit of the average user.
> We changed a lot of messages and, finally, we found the best way to
> Rome, far from personal opinions. These dialogues often gave an
> opportunity for new AFL requirements, which, thanks to Tomasz
> sensitive ears, are now available to the average user at a VERY
> REASONABLE COST.
> As for this "...aimed mainly for programmers only...", can you PLEASE
> be more specific ? Are you a programmer, do you have any studies or
> titles or MSc or even PhD and what school provided such a certificate
> to a person who writes 40 lines in order to EXPORT data to a
> *csv/*txt file?[Do not hesitate, please, to give schools, names,
> dates, e-mail addresses of your tutors, WE ARE IN THE SAME MARKET, WE
> KNOW EACH OTHER FOR YEARS and I would like to communicate to your
> teachers right now, they know Dimitris, they send a lot of mails to
> Dimitris for general OR detailed questions, and have a nice talk
> about the present and the future of the various programmers they gave
> a PASS sometime ago, let us speak the language of the market, at
> least once, dear !!!]
> Your teachers should give you the No 1 scientific postulate : Accept
> the criticism, whereever it comes, good will or not and try TO PROOVE
> your position.
> As for your "you even don't have tried yet", of course I haven't and
> I will not try an unknown proprietary code to solve what
> the "creator" thinks as unsolved [you are very far, my friend, to
> judge what is unsolved or not for a very simple reason : You don't
> even know AFL, one of the most powerful T/A languages I am so lucky
> to meet].
> It would be the most miserable moment of my life if I believe that
> the only solution to all these AFL unsolved questions is your
> experimental ABtool.
> I am glad to follow the evolution of amibroker the last 2 years, I
> think Tomasz is probably the best person to meet, he is always here,
> there, everywhere, day and night, 24h on line and I am more than sure
> he will give us, for many years, a great part of his genious spirit.
> I will be happy, 10 years later, to say : I was there, feeling this
> fresh air of ideas [the only comparison is before jumping with the
> parachute, if you ever have this marvellous experience] and I added
> my contribution to this great event.
> Since many readers are interested for your work, you should be more
> serious and, at least, accept that you reinvent the already existing
> wheel.
> BTW, I would be more than glad to answer ANY of your questions for my
> AFL examples and, much more, I would accept your creative criticism
> for any improvements/shorter expressions/better syntax or more
> profitable trading ideas, if the programmers are also care for
> trading their masterpieces.
> Let's do a better start, I don't like this style of communication and
> I will not continue it.
> If it is OK for you, I may put my signature that you are the best,
> your ABtool is unique, what would we do without you etc. Just prepare
> the papers...
> Dimitris Tsokakis
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, uenal.mutlu@xxxx wrote:
> > Hi Dimitris,
> > as you might know there are many roads to rome :-)
> >
> > BTW speaking of simplicity. I myself must admit
> > that over 95% of your code presented has been very
> > hard to understand for me. No comments, no indendation etc.
> >
> > And: I would like to remind you that ABtool is still in the beta
> phase.
> > I'm sure that there are many other problems which can be
> > solved only by the use of ABtool (or another such tool).
> > It is of course your own choice and freedom not to use ABtool,
> > and I doubt you would understand its power, because it
> > is at the moment aimed mainly for programmers only, as
> > was also written some msgs before (see my reply to IVA GmbH).
> >
> > > Is this the tool you want to certify, as I read somewhere else ?
> > > Will you also certify this kind of "logic" to solve a problem
> like
> > > exporting data in ASCII format ?
> > > If positive, I have lost the measure of common understanding.
> >
> > Dimitris, I don't think you have the right to critize something
> > you even don't have tried yet. Are you criticizing the code/method
> > posted below or the ABtool plugin? As said: don't use it and be
> happy.
> >
> > UM
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" <TSOKAKIS@xxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:48 AM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: converting amibroker quotes into ascii
> format
> >
> >
> > > UM,
> > > Do you really consider this "simple" way to export data in ASCII
> > > format ?
> > > In other words, an average amibroker user needs to
> > > a. use a 3rd party plugin
> > > b. use a while loop
> > > c. move his tickers to a WL
> > > d. save somewhere this code you suggest
> > > e. read all tickers as "foreign"
> > > and all this stuff in order to have an ASCII csv file without
> dates ?
> > > [Perhaps he will need another code to insert dates and if, like
> > > myself, he does not understand your magnificent code ask for help
> > > again and again...]
> > > There is no reason to rediscover America, Colombus & co did the
> job
> > > many years ago.
> > > On the other side, amibroker would be quite miserable if it could
> not
> > > export data before while looping+ABtool+so complicated coding.
> And it
> > > isnt, as far as I know.
> > > Is this the tool you want to certify, as I read somewhere else ?
> > > Will you also certify this kind of "logic" to solve a problem
> like
> > > exporting data in ASCII format ?
> > > If positive, I have lost the measure of common understanding.
> > > Dimitris Tsokakis
> > > PS Impressionism was not always the best trend in arts evolution,
> IMHO
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, uenal.mutlu@xxxx wrote:
> > > > The following is for exporting the last quotes
> > > > of all tickers in a watchlist using the ABtool plugin.
> > > > UM
> > > >
> > > > /* export the last quote of all tickers
> > > > in a watchlist using ABtool plugin
> > > >
> > > > Run in AA Explore by first setting
> > > > AppyTo=current stock,
> > > > Range=n last quotes,
> > > > and n=1
> > > > */
> > > > Filter = 1;
> > > > AddColumn(C, "dummy");
> > > >
> > > > WL = 60; // set your watchlist# here
> > > >
> > > > filename = "LastQuotes.csv";
> > > > fh = xxFileOpen(filename, "wt");
> > > > ticker = xxWLtickerFirst(WL);
> > > > while (ticker != "")
> > > > {
> > > > tO = foreign(ticker, "O");
> > > > tH = foreign(ticker, "H");
> > > > tL = foreign(ticker, "L");
> > > > tC = foreign(ticker, "C");
> > > > tV = foreign(ticker, "V");
> > > > tI = foreign(ticker, "I");
> > > > line = ticker + "," + tO + "," + tH + "," + tL
> > > > + "," + tC + "," + tV + "," + tI + "\n";
> > > > xxFileWriteStr(line, fh);
> > > > ticker = xxWLtickerNext(WL);
> > > > }
> > > > xxFileClose(fh);
> > > > xxMsgBox("See " + filename, "Finished");
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > /* The result will look like this:
> > > >
> > > > ^NDX,1109.92,1137.45,1109.66,1136.51,0,0
> > > > AAPL,14.46,14.59,14.34,14.45,5.75275e+006,0
> > > > ADBE,36.24,38.14,36.15,37.92,5.78614e+006,0
> > > > ADCT,2.37,2.52,2.36,2.5,6.16774e+006,0
> > > > ALTR,15.79,16.56,15.7,16.51,1.10336e+007,0
> > > > AMAT,14.95,15.31,14.79,15.15,2.7393e+007,0
> > > > AMGN,62.27,63.62,62.01,63.27,9.42019e+006,0
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > */
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