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<SPAN 
class=140041117-02052003>Bob,
Thank 
you for posting your examples....
<SPAN 
class=140041117-02052003> 
The 
cycle wave link is also interesting. Have you developed an AFL for the hurst 
channels? He appears to be drawing from Elliot but the time study leads me to 
think he may be also looking at Miner style projections. Do you 
know?
 Jayson 
<FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bob Jagow 
[mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 7:50 
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker] 
Detrending
<FONT 
color=#000080>Jason,
<FONT 
color=#000080>I blew the sign of  Disp--forgot  I'd made the 
DispMa.afl to remind me 8>)
Looks like the refs also 
have problems with forward and backward <SPAN 
class=556303616-01052003>;<SPAN 
class=556303616-01052003>I've commented on 
them below.  There's addtnl trading hints at<SPAN 
class=556303616-01052003> 
<A 
href=""><FONT 
color=#000080>http://www.incrediblecharts.com/technical/detrended_price_oscillator.htm<FONT 
color=#000080> , which also perpetuates Achelis' 
ambigious            DPO 
= Close - Simple moving average [from (n / 2 + 1) days ago] 

 
<FONT 
color=#000080>JM Hurst** introduced the centered 
MA  in the '60s in "The Profit Magic of Stock Transaction Timing" and his 
techniques are still popular; see for example, Clyde Lee's SwingTimer [he 
posts charts on the MedianLine and RealTraders yahoo lists] 
and Jim Curray's predictions at <A 
href="">http://cyclewave.homestead.com/MarketTurns.html
<FONT 
color=#000080> 
<FONT 
color=#000080>I  use his centered MA for cycle 
analysis and follow Clyde and Jim's work.
<FONT 
color=#000080>I've attached two <FONT 
color=#000080>afls [the 2nd  matches MetaStock's DPO] and a gif 
to show how to pick pds using the centered MA 
..
<SPAN 
class=556303616-01052003> 
I seldom use the DPO 
per sec .but it should be useful for finding short-tem 
swings. 
<FONT 
color=#000080> 
<FONT 
color=#000080>Bob
<SPAN 
class=556303616-01052003> <FONT 
color=#000080>----
** Google will catch an 
additional Hurst,  a hydrologist who's <FONT 
color=#000000>rescaled-range exponent is big with the fractals 
crowd.

  <FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial 
  size=3> -----Original Message-----From: Jayson 
  [mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 9:26 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker] 
  Detrending
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003>Bob,
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003> 
  Thanks for 
  posting. A goggle search produces several more 
  variations.......
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003> 
  from equis.. <A 
  href="">http://www.paritech.com/education/technical/custom/indicators/detrended.asp<SPAN 
  class=556303616-01052003>[=>]  They had the 
  right Sign for Ref 
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003> 
  from 
  GannAnalyst   <A 
  href="">http://www.gannalyst.com/Gannalyst_lite/Gannalyst_Indicators_DetrendedPrice.asp<SPAN 
  class=556303616-01052003>[=>]  More 
  ambigous  than  Achelis 
  
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003> 
  from Equity 
  Analytics  <A 
  href="">http://www.e-analytics.com/dpo.htm     
  This seems to agree with yours<FONT 
  color=#000080 size=3>[=>]  Top-notch-- "Move it back to Center it 
  => [Ref(ma,+pds/2+1)
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003> 
   Most seem 
  to follow your similar theme but may arrive at the final calculation from a 
  slightly different angle.. 
  <SPAN 
  class=992101316-01052003> 
  Have you  
  used this indicator in your trading and if so what has been your "take" on its 
  usefulness?
   Jayson 
  <FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bob Jagow 
  [mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 11:57 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker] 
  Detrending
  <FONT color=#000080 
  size=2>Jason,
  I 
  believe the DPO should be
  <FONT 
  size=2> 
  Pds=Param(<FONT 
  color=#ff00ff>"PDS",2<FONT 
  color=#ff00ff>0,1,<FONT 
  color=#ff00ff>200,1);
  dma = Ref(<FONT 
  color=#0000ff>MA(C,pds),-(pds/2+<FONT 
  color=#ff00ff>1));
  dpo=C-dma;
  Plot<FONT 
  size=2>(dma,"DMA",2,styleLeftAxisScale);<FONT 
  color=#0000ff>
  Plot<FONT 
  size=2>(dpo,"DPO",5,4);
  PlotGrid<FONT 
  size=2>(0,colorWhite);
   
  <FONT color=#000080 
  size=2>That is, you are subtracting a Hurst shifted-MA as the Achelis ref 
  badly shows.
  I 
  added the MA so that the best period can be picked via the Pds 
  param.
  <FONT color=#000080 
  size=2> 
  <FONT color=#000080 
  size=2>Bob
   
  <FONT 
  color=#000000> 
  
    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Jayson 
    [mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 7:08 
    AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
    [amibroker] Detrending
    <SPAN 
    class=025080514-01052003>Chuck,
    I 
    do not how useful you will find this bur here is the detrended Price 
    Oscillator  (DPO)....
    <SPAN 
    class=025080514-01052003> 
    <FONT 
    color=#282828> <FONT 
    color=#0000ff>
    Pds=Param("PDS",10,1,200,1<FONT 
    color=#282828><FONT color=#0000ff face="Arial CE" 
    size=2>);<FONT 
color=#0000ff>
    dpo=C<FONT 
    face="Arial CE">-(MA(C,(pds/2)+1<FONT 
    color=#282828>));<FONT 
    color=#0000ff>
    Plot(dpo,<FONT 
    color=#ff00ff>"DPO",<FONT 
    color=#ff00ff>4,<FONT 
    color=#ff00ff>1);<FONT 
    color=#0000ff>
    PlotGrid(<FONT 
    color=#ff00ff>0,<FONT 
    color=#000000>colorWhite<FONT color=#282828 
    face="Arial CE" size=2>);
     
    <SPAN 
    class=025080514-01052003>here is the reference from TA A-Z    
    <A 
    href="">http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/?page=48
     
     Jayson 
    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Chuck Rademacher 
    [mailto:chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 
    5:17 AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
    [amibroker] Detrending
    <FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>Has anyone written any AFL code for "detrending" that they are 
    willing to share?
    <FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2> 
    If 
    not, is anyone interested in the code if I have to write 
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