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Ara,
Not really. By definition DEMA and all exponential moving
averages because of their recursive formula,
require only 2 (EMA) or 3 bars (DEMA/TEMA) to calculate
first value.
But it just the convention that first 2 * len periods are
being considered as "not accurate".
Best regards,Tomasz Janeczkoamibroker.com
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Ara Kaloustian
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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:37
PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Built-in DEMA
questions
DT,
Insightful investigation into DEMA.
The phenomenon however is not related to variable
periods as you get the same results if you replace the variable with a fixed
value.
I would assume the DEMA results for the first
2*len periods would be erroneous - by definition....
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Dimitris
Tsokakis
To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:14
AM
Subject: [amibroker] Built-in DEMA
questions
Some things should be explained about DEMA and its
expected behavior:Let us use a fast DEMA [green line, period=10] and a
slow one [yellow line, period=10]A third, variable period DEMA [the
black thicker line], uses the fast period and, suddenly, 200 bars ago,
changes to slow.The result will immediately leave the green curve, but
asymptotically touch the yellow one. It will not be a real 50-bar DEMA,
even after 200 bars.Note that all this 200-bar period the variable DEMA
stays higher than the slow one. [above gif]To answer my [obvious]
questions, I search the available reference [instead of leaving my
imagination to fly around].The explanatory note via <A
href="">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/38844
sends me to <A
href="">http://www.amibroker.com/guide/afl/afl_view.php?name=DEMAwhere
I read the comment
DEMA internally is implemented via
EMA:Len=10;Graph0= 2 * EMA( C, len ) - EMA( EMA( C, len ), Len
);// for comparison onlyGraph1=DEMA(C,Len);
Some more explanations should be added
because:a. The built-in DEMA
begins from the first bar and the analytic EMA equivalent begins 400 bars
later. How the built-in DEMA is defined for the first 400 bars ?
[The question holds for IB and AA, see the simple
exploration
Len=200;G0= 2 * EMA( C, len ) - EMA( EMA( C, len ),
Len );G1=DEMA(C,Len);Filter=1;AddColumn(G0,"ANALYTIC
DEMA");AddColumn(G1,"DEMA");AddColumn(Cum(1),"BARS",1.0);
and the att. gif]
b. Should we
expect a 2*Len delayed response when variable periods is used
?c. My CSCO history is 831
bars [Jan3, 2000 till now]. The Graph0= 2 * EMA( C, len ) - EMA( EMA( C,
len ), Len );begins on Aug2, 2001.c1.Can
we speak for a proper function use back in the critical Oct2, 2001 CSCO
low?The built-in DEMA is 11.53 and the EMA equivalent is 9.08
!!!!!c2.After how many bars the two formulas
are less than 1% diverging ?
Built-in DEMA is, IMO, one of the most powerful AFL
tools, its use in trading systems design gives excellent resultsand this
is accurately translated to interesting profits. To avoid any
misunderstanding [the recent winds are S to SW, not that healthy...]my
questions do not search for built-in functions secrets, it would be useless
to me.
Just a better explanation to understandthe
expected DEMA behavior would encourage users/traders to step
into this great function. 5-10 lines would be more than enough, no need
for 1000+ pages.Thank you in advance for any reply.Dimitris
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