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Tomasz, I can only express my appreciation for the efforts you put in to
create and expand the functionality of AB. From the results of your efforts
I can see the work that you put in. AB is the best program on the market,
and I include all types of programs for computers and charting in
particular, due the continual improvements, ease of use, and the technical
backup you provide by listening to us and responding with help.
Thankyou
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/ASXShareTrading
http://groups.msn.com/FMSAustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2003 6:33 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Poll results for amibroker & versatility
Fred,
I wonder if you really think that I don't know what
are the weaknesses of #include ?
And that I don't know what functions are ?
And that I don't know what is structural programming?
If you knew C/C++ a little you would know that #include is
a PREPROCESSOR command not really a function or statement of the language.
The #include is powerful tool but it has no relation to functions. It is
preprocessor
command. And exactly the same it functions in AFL.
As for "I would like to have" part....
I also would like to have some things (especially for $99)
the problem is that someone has to write it ... and this is me.
I know exactly what should be added,
the problem is that it is HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK that can not be done
in minutes, hours or days.
And I am working, 7 days a week (do you work also that much ???? )
I am bringing new releases almost every week... so please
show just a little, little bit of patience.
I am pretty amazed when people are coming from other platforms
like Tradestation and expect me to do in a week/month
things that Tradestation developers TEAM
(many people) NEVER IMPLEMENTED till now and have it all as a free
upgrade of $99 product.
Then when given feature arrives (see looping) I hear:
well it is complicated to use and finally only a few use such feature.
A non-stop complainers are never happy.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Poll results for amibroker & versatility
> Tomasz,
>
> No offense but the #INCLUDE capability as designed and implemented in
> AB/AFL really accomplishes nothing other than to slow things down.
> It does NOT provide modularity of functions that can be used in a
> generic way from one system/indicator to another nor can #INCLUDES be
> nested, nor can arrays & variables be passed and returned etc. etc.
> It's structures like these that provide the basic building blocks
> that allow users to write systems and indicators using functions that
> have either been included with the product or individually developed
> without having to replicate code.
>
> I would like to have portfolio trading capabilities and all the rest
> of the stuff that folks have asked for but IMHO also think it highly
> important that issues like this be addressed.
>
> Fred
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Metastock allows to execute formula by name.
> > Equivalent functionality is provided by AFL #include
> >
> > Fred is writing about real functions with param passing by value.
> > This is different story.
> >
> > As to point 3. from Fred's e-mail - it is already possible
> > to have as many #includes in one AFL as you like.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John R" <jr-ta@xxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Poll results for amibroker & versatility
> >
> >
> > > Fred,
> > >
> > > Your comments about the importance of getting the basic language
> building
> > > blocks right is spot on IMO. Procedure/function calling
> facilities are
> > > pretty essential for any programming language. Even good old
> Metastock
> > > allows you to call external formulas!
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > ----- Original message -----
> > > From: "Fred Tonetti" <ftonetti@xxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:59 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] Poll results for amibroker & versatility
> > >
> > >
> > > > Herman,
> > > >
> > > > I would agree that it's about tools more than indicators per se.
> > > > However I consider flexibility in tools to be of premier
> importance and
> > > > although I didn't vote in the poll I do consider as part of this
> > > > flexibility having available, variable periodicity
> in "indicators"
> > > > and/or "functions" especially ones that are a pain to code like
> Linear
> > > > Regression and Standard Deviation etc. and especially given that
> > > > #INCLUDE (Reusable generic subroutines and/or functions)
> doesn't have
> > > > the needed functionality, does not always work as expected and
> is piggy.
> > > > I was interested to see that these in particular made the top
> of the
> > > > list but why StochK/D did is beyond me since those are easily
> enough
> > > > written in straight AFL with no for loops, not that
> for/while/if/else
> > > > are difficult to use but they're piggy as is #INCLUDE.
> > > >
> > > > For development of any product like AB IMHO it's the building
> blocks
> > > > that are important and the ones that allow users to make their
> own
> > > > building blocks are that much more important. A good example
> of this is
> > > > #INCLUDE which to me to be usable needs have the following
> associated
> > > > features.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Arguments (Arrays or Variables) for calculation should be
> able to be
> > > > passed to an #INCLUDE and results returned much like one can
> with the
> > > > AFL imbedded indicators.
> > > > 2. One should be able to call the same #INCLUDE from different
> places
> > > > in a piece of AFL passing it different arguments and getting
> different
> > > > results without it getting confused.
> > > > 3. One should be able to have multiple #INCLUDE's in a piece
> of AFL.
> > > > 4. One #INCLUDE should be able to have it's own #INCLUDE's
> > > > 5. It should run just as fast as any other piece of AFL.
> > > >
> > > > So as a simple example if one wanted to have their own FastK
> type
> > > > stochastic with variable periodicity that one could use
> whenever one
> > > > wanted with whatever inputs one wanted then one should be able
> to use it
> > > > and write it in some way like this:
> > > >
> > > > Main AFL ...
> > > >
> > > > #INCLUDE "C:\...\FastK.AFL" Array1 Array2 Array3 Array4 Array5
> > > >
> > > > Include AFL ...
> > > >
> > > > HH = HHV(Array1, Array4);
> > > > LL = LLV(Array2, Array4);
> > > > Array5 = 100 * (Array3 - Array2) / (HH - LL);
> > > >
> > > > Having the capability of simple building blocks like this
> allows for
> > > > rapid development of ones own indicators and systems without
> the need
> > > > for repetitive coding .
> > > >
> > > > For example in TradeStation ALL functions are viewable as
> EasyLanguage (
> > > > The equivalent to AFL ) even the ones that are imbedded with
> the product
> > > > so there is never a need to guess how something is calculated.
> For
> > > > example here's a standard deviation function . which in turn
> calls an
> > > > Average function. This may not be the most efficient way to
> write these
> > > > but they illustrate the point.
> > > >
> > > >
> {*******************************************************************
> > > > Description: Standard Deviation
> > > >
> ********************************************************************}
> > > >
> > > > Inputs: Price(NumericSeries), Length(NumericSimple);
> > > >
> > > > Vars: SumSqr(0), Avg(0), Counter(0);
> > > >
> > > > If Length <> 0 Then
> > > > Begin
> > > > Avg = Average(Price, Length);
> > > > SumSqr = 0;
> > > > For Counter = 0 To Length - 1
> > > > Begin
> > > > SumSqr = SumSqr + (Price[Counter] - Avg)
> > > > * (Price[Counter] - Avg);
> > > > End;
> > > > _StdDev = SquareRoot(SumSqr / Length);
> > > > End
> > > > Else
> > > > _StdDev = 0;
> > > >
> > > >
> {*******************************************************************
> > > > Description: Simple Moving Average
> > > >
> ********************************************************************}
> > > >
> > > > Inputs: Price(NumericSeries), Length(NumericSimple);
> > > > Variables: Sum(0), Counter(0);
> > > >
> > > > Sum = 0;
> > > >
> > > > For counter = 0 To Length - 1 Begin
> > > > Sum = Sum + Price[counter];
> > > > End;
> > > >
> > > > If Length > 0 Then
> > > > Average = Sum / Length
> > > > Else
> > > > Average = 0;
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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