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I 
personally find Elliott to be confusing with too many exceptions to every rule. 
I have spent a lot of time on Miner and prefer his approach of using price and 
time to make forecasts. That being said I have found the approach to work best 
on larger more liquid stocks. This is probably because the big institutions are 
driving these stocks and they tend to move shares with a more systematic 
approach. This is similar to Fib retracement. If the big guys are watching these 
numbers and trading off of them then they work for us as well. If the stock is 
smaller and being driven by retail trade then they may be less effective. Stocks 
have personalities, if a given approach is working in the recent past then it is 
more likely to work in the near future. I think it was Pring who said "A stock 
remains in  a Trend until that is no longer the case". The same is true for 
a lot of TA techniques. That a given approach has worked well for the past year 
does not necessarily mean it worked well 10 years ago, nor that it will work 
well 5 years from now. Others will argue that if an approach has not worked well 
for 10+ years it is not worth following. Different 
strokes.........
 Jayson 
<FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Rick Parsons 
[mailto:RickParsons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 
10:41 AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
[amibroker] trends
<FONT color=#000080 
size=2>Jason,
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Thanks, this is 
very impressive.  This new explanation helps.
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Do you follow 
Elliot/Miner?  What do you think of their methods?
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<FONT color=#000080 
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<FONT color=#000080 face="Vladimir Script" 
size=5>Rick

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Jayson 
  [mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:05 
  AMTo: 1amiSubject: [amibroker] 
  trends
  <SPAN 
  class=731125104-24042003>Rick,
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  a picture is worth 
  a thousand words....
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  class=731125104-24042003> 
  <IMG 
  align=baseline alt="" border=0 hspace=0 
  src="gif00252.gif">
   
  In this chart the 
  current swing direction is up, therefore I am calculating Impulse waves. Swing 
  1 is the previous wave up, swing 2 the wave prior and swing 3 the wave prior 
  to that. The top the chart identifies which direction the calculations 
  are being made for. If you wanted to see the calculations for the reaction 
  waves (the down waves) use the parameter switch. The first line "Bars since 
  swing" is giving the running calculation of the swing in progress, The 
  averages are based on the prior 3 swings and does not include the swing in 
  progress. 
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  The green bars are 
  marking the the first bar after the turn, the white bar marks the first bar 
  considered in the ATR look back. If the state was down the red bars would be 
  marking the first bar after the down swing.
  <SPAN 
  class=731125104-24042003> 
  Elliot and Miner 
  view Impulse and reaction moves as different animals. When calculating the up 
  moves you use data from previous up moves when calculating down moves you use 
  data from previous down moves.
   
   
  Jayson 
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