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Re: [amibroker] Re: Help - Unrealistic Results (for Stewart)



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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  <A title=chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">Chuck Rademacher 
  To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:35 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Help - 
  Unrealistic Results (for Stewart)
  
  No 
  worries... we are all just trying to help and we don't expect you to divulge 
  your system... especially one that looks that good!
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  The 
  problem is that it is hard to debug a problem when the system supplied isn't 
  the same system that produced the results supplied.
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  As 
  you can see from the other posts, several of us ran your system, either on our 
  own basket(s) of stocks or your specific stocks and (I think) we all got 
  negative returns.   There must be some sort of "future leak" 
  involved in one or more of your settings.   As you can see in your 
  results, every trade lasted exactly one day... highly suspicious and possibly 
  suggesting future leak somewhere.
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  I'll 
  have a closer look later today and I think others are looking as 
  well.
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  The 
  system you supplied was set up for optimisation.  Your performance 
  figures were based on only one set of parameters derived from your 
  optimisation.  It would be a HUGE benefit to anyone trying to help you to 
  know exactly which stop parameters were used to derive the spectacular 
  results.
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  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Cheers
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    <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Stewart 
    [mailto:stewart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 
    6:19 PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
    [amibroker] Re: Help - Unrealistic Results
    Chuck (and Anyone Else that 
    missunderstood),
     
    I sincerely apologize if my post was 
    misleading. My original message did say "similiar", and I assumed the people 
    helping had seen that. I've been following this group for awhile (although 
    silently until fairly recently), and it seems fairly common not to divulge 
    the system specifics when trying to debug something. Having said that, my 
    actual system was almost exactly as my example, however, the prices were 
    actual composite prices that I built (e.g. Close of MSFT + Close of 
    Cisco)/2. I am fairly certain that the issue isn't with the system 
    conditions, but with the stop or other system settings, which is what I 
    was trying to highlight.
     
    Regards,
     
    Stewart
     
     
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV 
      >From: 
      <A title=chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">Chuck Rademacher 
      To: <A 
      title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:45 
      PM
      Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Help - 
      Unrealistic Results
      
      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Like a lot of people on this board, I spent some time looking at 
      this particular post in an effort to help someone with a 
      problem.
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      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Also, like a lot of others, I found that the system (as presented) 
      lost money no matter which stocks I tested it on.
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      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Then... we get a message that the system (as presented) was only 
      "similar" to the one with the problem.
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      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>It's one thing to not divulge a good system to the 
      group and another to let us waste our time debugging a non-existent 
      system.
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      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>The original post did say it was "similar", so I'll confess to 
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