[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

[amibroker] Re: The request for "variable" period functions



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links

Not any and all data arrays i.e. o, h, l, c, v, etc. but any and all 
arrays.  For any function XYZ I should be able to calculate an XYZ(XYZ
(Array,Periods),Periods) etc.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CS" <csaxe@xxxx> wrote:
> I believe that Fred's point was that any and all data arrays should 
be portable, to and from indicators/functions for data manipulation. 
I have the same belief and I don't think that it is a radical stretch 
of the imagination.
> Modern technical analysis software should have the ability to use 
whatever numeric data is desired for inputs. For instance, RSIa
(Volume,14) works. Instead of volume, anything else can be used as 
a "price" input too. Why not expand that so-called "price" array 
input to all indicators/functions that utilize some sort of price 
data input, instead of having two "RSI"s (RSI & RSIa)? Or two CCIs?
> 
> About prefs for period input... does anyone here really blindly 
plot RSI or any indicator using whatever time period is in prefs 
(Tools>Preferences)? I sure don't. Prefs for the indicator time 
periods is something in AB I have never used. Probably also why I 
don't plot any of the canned indicators in prefs too. Each and every 
one of the markets that I follow has their own distinct personality, 
requiring different input parameters.
> 
> Anyway, it is not my intent to create a ruckus here. I am not 
demanding that dynamic inputs be put before any other item on TJ's 
list.
> I merely attempted to state my desire for them based on my 
experience. I will welcome multiple position adjustment, integrated 
portfolio walk-forward, and Monte Carlo Simulation when they arrive, 
too. :-)
> 
> -CS
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Bob Jagow 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:55 PM
>   Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: The request for "variable" period 
functions
> 
> 
>   "Work on any array" is a straw man, Fred.
> 
>   The ONLY reason I can see that they don't & therefore the need 
for RSIa,
>   etc. in addition to RSI, etc. is that Tomasz wanted to be able to 
call
>   RSI(prefs).
> 
>   That is, C disallows calling RSI(Array=C,range=14) with RSI(nn).
> 
>   Bob
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Fred [mailto:fctonetti@x...]
>   Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:38 PM
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: The request for "variable" period 
functions
> 
> 
>   Although FULL portfolio handling including pair trading and 
ranking
>   would be absolutely wonderful, at the moment I'd settle for a 
working
>   radial button that allows for shrinking position size and an
>   accounting routine that keeps one from being more than 100%
>   invested.  That at least would allow for some semi-real testing 
to be
>   done in this arena.
> 
>   As far as indicators go, ALL of them should have the capability to
>   work on ANY array and for a length that is variable BAR BY BAR.
> 
>   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Nurudin Kaba" <n.kaba@xxxx> 
wrote:
>   > I also agree with Bill, Al and Jerome...I think adding Dynamic
>   Portfolio
>   > Backtesting would be a great addition.
>   >
>   > Nurudin
>   >
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: bvandyke [mailto:bvandyke@x...]
>   > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 20:15
>   > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > Subject: [amibroker] Re: The request for "variable" period 
functions
>   >
>   >
>   > I agree with Al and Jerome also...very much so as to the order 
of
>   > priority of enhancements to AB.  Dynamic Portfolio Backtesting 
is an
>   > area that will help set AB truly apart from the competition and 
many
>   > of us eagerly await such capacities.
>   >
>   > Bill
>   >
>   > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa" <advenosa@xxxx> 
wrote:
>   > > I wholeheartedly agree with Jerome. Portfolio backtesting and
>   > pyramiding, in my opinion, are much more important that 
introducing
>   > more indicators, dynamic or not. I sure hope this new task, if
>   > adopted, does not distract or slow down Tomasz from developing 
what
>   > I think lots more people wish to have as part of the AB engine. 
My
>   > opinion, FWIW.
>   > >
>   > > Al Venosa
>   > >
>   > >   ----- Original Message -----
>   > >   From: Silvarius
>   > >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > >   Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:12 PM
>   > >   Subject: RE: [amibroker] The request for "variable" period
>   > functions
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >   I second Dimitris in his Opinion. Portfolio backtesting
>   > enhancement is much more critical IMHO.
>   > >
>   > >   Best regards, Jérôme ULRICH
>   > >     -----Message d'origine-----
>   > >     De : DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS [mailto:TSOKAKIS@x...]
>   > >     Envoyé : jeudi 17 avril 2003 21:41
>   > >     À : amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > >     Objet : [amibroker] The request for "variable" period
>   functions
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >     Everybody asks for variable period possibilities, as if 
AFL is
>   > poor
>   > >     in this logic.
>   > >     Let us take a closer look :
>   > >     Variable Period smoothing functions:
>   > >     MA, DEMA, TEMA do accept variable period.
>   > >     The remaining EMA can accept through EMA(ARRAY,PER)==AMA
>   > (ARRAY,2/
>   > >     (PER+1))
>   > >     Is there any other type of smoothing used in your 
formulas ???
>   > >     RSI works through RSIA, CCI works through CCIA
>   > >     MACD through above described EMA.
>   > >     What is next?
>   > >     How about StochK and StochD with variable per ?
>   > >     Perhaps you do not know that you can do it NOW in pure 
AFL !!
>   > >     The HHV and LLV functions work fine with variable period.
>   > >     per=10+cum(1)%20;
>   > >     StochKa=MA(100*(C-LLV(L,per))/(HHV(H,per)-LLV(L,per)),3);
>   > >     StochDa=MA(MA(100*(C-LLV(L,per))/(HHV(H,per)-LLV
>   (L,per)),3),3);
>   > >     Is ther any other function you would like to see with 
variable
>   > >     period ?
>   > >     Search first the definition and then see if it already 
exists
>   > in your
>   > >     AFL potential.
>   > >     It is better to know the definition of a Stochastic, 
before
>   > asking
>   > >     fast software upgrades-enhanchments.
>   > >     In my opinion, the lack of definition will always confuse 
the
>   > user,
>   > >     with fixed or variable period.
>   > >     Dimitris Tsokakis
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >     Send BUG REPORTS to bugs@xxxx
>   > >     Send SUGGESTIONS to suggest@xxxx
>   > >     -----------------------------------------
>   > >     Post AmiQuote-related messages ONLY to:
>   > amiquote@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > >     (Web page: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiquote/messages/)
>   > >     --------------------------------------------
>   > >     Check group FAQ at:
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/groupfaq.html
>   > >
>   > >     Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms 
of
>   > Service.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >   Send BUG REPORTS to bugs@xxxx
>   > >   Send SUGGESTIONS to suggest@xxxx
>   > >   -----------------------------------------
>   > >   Post AmiQuote-related messages ONLY to: 
amiquote@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > >   (Web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiquote/messages/)
>   > >   --------------------------------------------
>   > >   Check group FAQ at:
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/groupfaq.html
>   > >
>   > >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>   > Service.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Send BUG REPORTS to bugs@xxxx
>   > Send SUGGESTIONS to suggest@xxxx
>   > -----------------------------------------
>   > Post AmiQuote-related messages ONLY to: amiquote@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > (Web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiquote/messages/)
>   > --------------------------------------------
>   > Check group FAQ at:
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/groupfaq.html
>   >
>   > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>   http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
>   Send BUG REPORTS to bugs@xxxx
>   Send SUGGESTIONS to suggest@xxxx
>   -----------------------------------------
>   Post AmiQuote-related messages ONLY to: amiquote@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   (Web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiquote/messages/)
>   --------------------------------------------
>   Check group FAQ at:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/groupfaq.html
> 
>   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>   http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
>         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
>               ADVERTISEMENT
>              
>        
>        
> 
>   Send BUG REPORTS to bugs@xxxx
>   Send SUGGESTIONS to suggest@xxxx
>   -----------------------------------------
>   Post AmiQuote-related messages ONLY to: amiquote@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   (Web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiquote/messages/)
>   --------------------------------------------
>   Check group FAQ at: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/groupfaq.html 
> 
>   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
Service.


------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->
Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/GHeqlB/TM
---------------------------------------------------------------------~->

Send BUG REPORTS to bugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Send SUGGESTIONS to suggest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----------------------------------------
Post AmiQuote-related messages ONLY to: amiquote@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
(Web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiquote/messages/)
--------------------------------------------
Check group FAQ at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/groupfaq.html 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/