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RE: [amibroker] Volatile trailing Applystop (for Ted)



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Well, 
why not just have a "sell" statement that says:
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Sell = 
low < ref(low,-1);
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Of 
course, that will get you out at the next open or whatever exit technique you 
are using.
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size=2>Thinking about how to exit as a real intraday stop, something like this 
might work.
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size=2>highesthigh = (code inserted here to calculate the highest high since you 
entered the trade)
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size=2>ApplyStop (stopTypeTrailing, stopModePoint, highesthigh-low+0.01, true, 
true);
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I 
think that this would place your stop tomorrow at exactly one cent below today's 
low.  I'm assuming here that a trailing stop for a long works off the 
highest high.
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ted Chmilar 
  [mailto:tchmilar@xxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:39 
  PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [amibroker] 
  Volatile trailing Applystop (for Ted)
  Chuck,
   
  I'll study this further. Any idea how one could 
  implement a trailing stop (with each bar) where one would exit the long trade 
  when the price drops below the low of the previous bar using 'applystop'  
  ?
   
  Ted
  
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    >From: 
    <A title=chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">Chuck Rademacher 
    To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:33 
    PM
    Subject: RE: [amibroker] Volatile 
    trailing Applystop (for Ted)
    
    My 
    main point was that a fixed (75 cent) stop doesn't lend itself to volatility 
    checking.
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    size=2>I'm of the opinion that setting volatility = true would be applicable 
    if you had a stop distance that said something like "ATR(14)*3" where your 
    stop distance actually could vary between the point of entry and point of 
    exit.  A 75 cent stop is a 75 cent stop every day in the life of a 
    trade and ignores volatility.
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Regarding your second point, I'm of the opinion that for longs, a 75 
    cent stop would be from the highest high during the life of the trade and 
    for shorts, a 75 cent stop would be from the lows.   It's either 
    the extremes or the closes depending on how Tomacz implemented it.  It 
    wouldn't take much to prove it one way or the other.
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      <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ted Chmilar 
      [mailto:tchmilar@xxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:20 
      PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
      [amibroker] Volatile trailing Applystop (for Ted)
      
      Chuck,
      I made a mistake  in my original email, I 
      meant the High price of the bar when the Buy (not Sell) 
      occured.
      According to the Users Guide, the 5th 
      parameter of ApplyStop:
       
      volatile - decides if amount (or 
      distance) (3rd parameter) is sampled at the trade entry and remains fixed 
      during the trade (Volatile = FALSE - old behaviour) or if can vary during 
      the trade (Volatile = TRUE) (allows single line Chandelier exit 
      implementation) 
       
      I'm trying to find out what the .75 
      (distance) is relative to on each bar of the trade. Thanks for your taking 
      an interest in this.
       
      Ted
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
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        >From: 
        <A title=chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">Chuck Rademacher 
        To: <A 
        title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:21 
        PM
        Subject: RE: [amibroker] Volatile 
        trailing Applystop (for Ted)
        
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        size=2>This isn't really a "volatility" stop.  You are simply 
        running a 75 cent stop from the extreme of the move.   But, 
        I'm sure you knew that already.
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        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>The fact that you are using "true" in the statement means that 
        your trade will be exited at your stop price (forgetting about opening 
        gaps) intraday.  So, your "exit at open prices" is 
        meaningless.
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          <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
          size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ted Chmilar 
          [mailto:tchmilar@xxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:46 
          PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
          [amibroker] Volatile trailing Applystop
          Tomasz,    
           
          Is this type of volatile trailing stop 
          predictable for longs and shorts?
           
          Stop=.75;
          ApplyStop(stopTypeTrailing, 
          stopModePoint, Stop, True, 
          True);
           
          It seems to be predictable for longs 
          where it uses the high of the Sell for its basis of calculation. For 
          shorts, I can't seem to figure it out. I used set trade delays to 0 
          using Open prices.
           
          Ted
          
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