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RE: [amibroker] Volatile trailing Applystop (for Ted)



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My 
main point was that a fixed (75 cent) stop doesn't lend itself to volatility 
checking.
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I'm of 
the opinion that setting volatility = true would be applicable if you had a stop 
distance that said something like "ATR(14)*3" where your stop distance actually 
could vary between the point of entry and point of exit.  A 75 cent stop is 
a 75 cent stop every day in the life of a trade and ignores 
volatility.
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size=2>Regarding your second point, I'm of the opinion that for longs, a 75 cent 
stop would be from the highest high during the life of the trade and for shorts, 
a 75 cent stop would be from the lows.   It's either the extremes or 
the closes depending on how Tomacz implemented it.  It wouldn't take much 
to prove it one way or the other.
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ted Chmilar 
  [mailto:tchmilar@xxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:20 
  PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [amibroker] 
  Volatile trailing Applystop (for Ted)
  
  Chuck,
  I made a mistake  in my original email, I 
  meant the High price of the bar when the Buy (not Sell) 
  occured.
  According to the Users Guide, the 5th 
  parameter of ApplyStop:
   
  volatile - decides if amount (or 
  distance) (3rd parameter) is sampled at the trade entry and remains fixed 
  during the trade (Volatile = FALSE - old behaviour) or if can vary during the 
  trade (Volatile = TRUE) (allows single line Chandelier exit implementation) 
  
   
  I'm trying to find out what the .75 (distance) is 
  relative to on each bar of the trade. Thanks for your taking an interest in 
  this.
   
  Ted
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    <A title=chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">Chuck Rademacher 
    To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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    Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:21 
    PM
    Subject: RE: [amibroker] Volatile 
    trailing Applystop (for Ted)
    
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    size=2>This isn't really a "volatility" stop.  You are simply running a 
    75 cent stop from the extreme of the move.   But, I'm sure you 
    knew that already.
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    size=2>The fact that you are using "true" in the statement means that your 
    trade will be exited at your stop price (forgetting about opening gaps) 
    intraday.  So, your "exit at open prices" is 
    meaningless.
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      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ted Chmilar 
      [mailto:tchmilar@xxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:46 
      PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] 
      Volatile trailing Applystop
      Tomasz,    
       
      Is this type of volatile trailing stop 
      predictable for longs and shorts?
       
      Stop=.75;
      ApplyStop(stopTypeTrailing, 
      stopModePoint, Stop, True, 
      True);
       
      It seems to be predictable for longs where it 
      uses the high of the Sell for its basis of calculation. For shorts, I 
      can't seem to figure it out. I used set trade delays to 0 using Open 
      prices.
       
      Ted
      
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