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Hello,
 
Equity(1) emulates delays also therefore delays will affect 
the results.
 
You have to remember that Equity() function is 
backtester-in-a-box.
It uses EXACTLY the same code as Backtest button 
uses.
Therefore it reacts on ALL backtester settings.
 
I suggest to use backtest to backtest and explore to 
explore.
 
If you really want to use Exploration mode with 
Equity(1)
I suggest to set all built-in delays to ZERO and manage delays 
from
the code using just REF() function:
 
Buy = Ref( Buy, -1 ); // one bar delay
 
This will be easier for you to understand and exploration 
with
Equity(1) will work like exploration without 
Equity(1).
 
(because delays would not affect the signals)
Best regards,Tomasz 
Janeczkoamibroker.com
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  <A title=jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">Jayson 
  To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:18 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Code 
  challenge - gurus on your toes!
  
  <SPAN 
  class=001380717-18032003>Dale,
  <SPAN 
  class=001380717-18032003> 
  The 
  devil is always in the details! Adding the equity line does indeed change the 
  results of the exploration. I think perhaps the (partial) answer is  
  found in Help...
  <SPAN 
  class=001380717-18032003> 
  from 
  help.......
  <SPAN 
  class=001380717-18032003> 
  
  
    
    
      SYNTAX 
      
      equity( 
        Flags = 0, RangeType = -1, From = 0, To = 0 
        ) 
    
      RETURNS
      ARRAY 
    
      FUNCTION 
      Returns Equity line based on 
        buy/sell/short/cover rules, buy/sell/short/coverprice arrays, all apply 
        stops, and all other back tester settings. Flags - defines the 
        behavior of Equity function
        
          0 : (default) Equity works as in 3.98 - just 
          calculates the equity array1 : works as 0 but additionally 
          updates buy/sell/short/cover arrays so all redundant signals are 
          removed exactly as it is done internally by the back tester plus all 
          exits by stops are applied so it is now possible to visualize 
          ApplyStop() stops.<FONT 
    size=2>
  It 
  certainly appears that equity(1) also emulates the backrest results for the 
  delay=1 as well since changing the setting in AA to delay=0 and running the 
  code with equity(1) returns the expected result.
  <SPAN 
  class=001380717-18032003> <FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>Jayson 
  <FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: dingo 
  [mailto:dingo@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:51 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker] 
  Re: Code challenge - gurus on your toes!
  
  <SPAN 
  >Thanks for taking 
  the time to try this!
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >Now change your 
  formula by adding E = Equity(1); to it so that it looks 
like:
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >Buy<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >=<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=blue size=1><SPAN 
  >Cross<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<SPAN 
  >C,<FONT face="Courier New" 
  color=blue size=1><SPAN 
  >MA<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<SPAN 
  >C,<FONT face="Courier New" 
  color=fuchsia size=1><SPAN 
  >50<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >));
  <SPAN 
  >Sell<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >=<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=blue size=1><SPAN 
  >Cross<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=blue size=1><SPAN 
  >MA<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<SPAN 
  >C,<FONT face="Courier New" 
  color=fuchsia size=1><SPAN 
  >50<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >),<SPAN 
  >C);
  <SPAN 
  >Filter<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >=<SPAN 
  >Buy <SPAN 
  >OR <SPAN 
  >Sell;
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >E = 
  <SPAN 
  >Equity<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=fuchsia size=1><SPAN 
  >1<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >);
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >AddColumn<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<SPAN 
  >Buy,<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=fuchsia size=1><SPAN 
  >"Buy"<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >);
  <SPAN 
  >AddColumn<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >(<SPAN 
  >Sell,<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=fuchsia size=1><SPAN 
  >"sell"<FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=black size=1><SPAN 
  >);
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >and rather than use 
  the “Range Setting” of “n last days” change that to “from” and put in the 
  range “1/1/2003 – 2/28/2003” (to simulate the actual running on the night of 
  the 28th) and then try it.
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >I’ve been adding 
  that equity statement to my formula because I’m using applystop and thought it 
  is the recommended method. When I do this you see what 
  happens.
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >If you use E = 
  Equity(0); then it reverts back to what you see with the original 
  formula.
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >d
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >-----Original 
  Message-----From: Jayson 
  [mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx] <SPAN 
  >Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:24 
  AMTo: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  >Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Code 
  challenge - gurus on your toes!
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=3> 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >Dale,
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2>take a 
  very simple system....
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=3> 
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=black size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >Buy<FONT 
  face=Arial color=blue><SPAN 
  >=Cross(C,MA(C,50));
  
  <FONT face=Arial 
  color=blue size=2><SPAN 
  >Sell<FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  >=Cross(MA(<SPAN 
  >C<FONT face=Arial 
  color=black>,50),<SPAN 
  >C<FONT face=Arial 
  color=blue><SPAN 
  >);
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >Filter<FONT 
  face=Arial color=blue>=Buy OR 
  Sell;
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >AddColumn<FONT 
  color=#282828 size=2><SPAN 
  >(<FONT color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >Buy<FONT 
  face=Arial color=#282828 size=2><SPAN 
  >,<FONT 
  face=Arial color=fuchsia size=2><SPAN 
  >"Buy"<FONT 
  face=Arial color=#282828 size=2><SPAN 
  >);
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >AddColumn<FONT 
  face=Arial color=#282828 size=2><SPAN 
  >(<FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  >Sell<FONT 
  face=Arial color=#282828 size=2><SPAN 
  >,<FONT 
  face=Arial color=fuchsia size=2><SPAN 
  >"sell"<FONT 
  face=Arial color=#282828 size=2><SPAN 
  >);
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=#282828 
  size=2>run 
  the back test on CSCO then click actual trades.
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=#282828 
  size=2><IMG 
  height=269 src="gif00149.gif" width=297 
  align=baseline border=0>
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2>Here you 
  see the actual cross over occurred on 2/28 (circled) the trade arrow in back 
  test  shows the following day 3/3 (delay=1)
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><IMG 
  height=606 src="gif00150.gif" width=744 
  align=baseline border=0>
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2>To find 
  this trade the previous night you would run the same code in AA as an 
  exploration.......
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><IMG 
  height=252 src="gif00151.gif" width=592 
  align=baseline border=0>
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=blue size=3><SPAN 
  > 
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2>As you 
  see the explore correctly identifies the 2/28 buy as well as the 3/3 sell 
  ahead of the trade arrows generated by the back test. If you are looking at 
  EOD on 2/28 you would place the buy order that evening as a market order. This 
  would execute on the 3/3 open (for better or worse).
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=3> 
  
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=3> 
  <FONT face=Arial color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >Jayson 
  
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  ><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  >-----Original 
  Message-----From: dingo 
  [mailto:dingo@xxxxxxxxxx]<SPAN 
  >Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:10 
  AMTo: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  >Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Code 
  challenge - gurus on your toes!
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=blue 
  size=2>The 
  point about using Amibroker to trade the open on the next day was 
  this:
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  > 
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=blue 
  size=2>Take a 
  simple system you have in your files and run a back test on it for a date 
  range of your choice. (be sure and have your settings = delay = 1, 
  open).  Look down the trade list and pick any date where a position is 
  taken and write that date down.  Now pretend that you are processing your 
  data (assuming you are using EOD data) on the night BEFORE the date you wrote 
  down – trying to see what trades, if any, you will have to set up for the next 
  day.  Now run a Scan or Explore and tell me if you see any evidence of a 
  trade for the next day?  What do you do to know that you need to put in 
  an order?
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  > 
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >d
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=blue 
  size=2><SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >-----Original 
  Message-----From: phsst 
  [mailto:phsst@xxxxxxxxx] <SPAN 
  >Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:32 
  AMTo: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  >Subject: [amibroker] Re: Code challenge - 
  gurus on your toes!
  <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=3> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  ><FONT 
  face="Courier New" size=2><Dale, you have 
  probably forgotten more about system design than I<FONT 
  face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
  ><FONT 
  face="Courier New">know but for what it is worth I do use delay=1 and 
  Price=Open forevaluation and back 
  testing in AA, although in practice I seldom<FONT 
  face="Courier New">actual buy the open. I have been burned too many times by 
  this ficklemarket. Instead I wait 
  30 minutes to let the dust settle. Interday I<FONT 
  face="Courier New">plot actual signals based on high or low. 
  (delay=o)>I don't target 
  to trade Mkt OPEN either... but prefer to trade Limit<FONT 
  face="Courier New">or Stop orders based upon previous days price action. 
  In the case of Buy Limit 
  orders, I usually determine the Limit price<FONT 
  face="Courier New">from previous days Close, and to my surprise, I very often 
  get actualexecutions at OPEN the 
  following day which are significantly less than<FONT 
  face="Courier New">previous days close (my limit order) and have experienced 
  positivetrading system outcomes 
  as a result (my primary trading system is a<FONT 
  face="Courier New">pullback system). Also, when this occurs it is not unusual 
  for theOPEN to be the low for the 
  day!You can setup your 
  backtest's for this condition, and depending upon<FONT 
  face="Courier New">your trading system you will observe backtest results that 
  mirror whatI have encountered in 
  actual trades.Logically, I 
  thought that MM's would look at limit orders at open 
  andtake them out before gapping 
  down, but that has not been my actual<FONT 
  face="Courier New">trading experience with these orders (either NYSE or 
  NASD).My point is that while 
  you may not want to trade the OPEN with market<FONT 
  face="Courier New">orders... the OPEN is not necessarily your enemy either... 
  it can beyour friend when your 
  trading system picks out pullbacks that are<FONT 
  face="Courier New">close enough to exhaustion gaps which can be exploited 
  using Limit orders.And as far 
  as using Amibroker to signal trades with delay = 1 
  andPrice = Open on the evening 
  before the trade... here is a code snipet<FONT 
  face="Courier New">that should come close:<FONT 
  face="Courier New">(b is the boolean BUY trigger 
  variable)b = BUY CONDITION 
  SETUPPctRisk = C - (L - 0.1) / 
  C;TargetPrice = 
  HHV(C,10);PctGain = (TargetPrice 
  - C) / C;b = b AND PctGain >= 
  0.12;    // At least 12% Profit 
  potentialBuyPrice = 
  Min(Ref(C,-1),O); // Lessor of Previous Close or Todays 
  openb = b AND BuyPrice > 
  L;Buy = 
  b;That should do it, if I 
  have not mis-understood what you are asking for.<FONT 
  face="Courier New">OR simply code BuyPrice = O;<FONT 
  face="Courier New">Phsst--- 
  In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jayson" <jcasavant@xxxx> 
  wrote:> 
  Dale,> 
  > Often I just guess 
  <G>> 
  > Help defines an array 
  as....> What is an 
  Array?> 
  > An array is simply a list 
  (or row) of values. In some books it may be<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> referred to as a vector. Each numbered row of values 
  in the example> represents an 
  individual array. Amibroker has stored in its database 
  6> arrays for each stock. One 
  for opening price, one for the low price,<FONT 
  face="Courier New">one for> 
  the high price, one for the closing price and one for volume 
  (seethe 
  rows> labeled 1-5 below) and 
  one for open interest. These can be<FONT 
  face="Courier New">referenced in AFL<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> as open, low, high, close, volume, openint or o, l, h, 
  c, v, oi.> 
  > If you are referencing one 
  of the 6 arrays or making calculations<FONT 
  face="Courier New">based on> 
  them then it is an array.  In your example you used Status 
  todetermine 
  what> AB was doing (Scan, 
  Explore etc) Since this state is not stored nor<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> calculated from the six arrays you must  use 
  lastvalue() .> 
  > " One more thing: Do you use 
  Amibroker to signal trades with delay =<FONT 
  face="Courier New">1 and> 
  Price = Open?  On the evening before the trade do you use plots 
  totell 
  you> to trade the next morning 
  or do you use some formula in the AA and run a<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Scan or Explore to tell you?"<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  Dale, you have probably forgotten more about system design than 
  Iknow 
  but> for what it is worth I do 
  use delay=1 and Price=Open for evaluation<FONT 
  face="Courier New">and back> 
  testing in AA, although in practice I seldom actual buy the open. I 
  have> been burned too many 
  times by this fickle market. Instead I wait 30<FONT 
  face="Courier New">minutes> to 
  let the dust settle. Interday I plot actual signals based on 
  highor 
  low.> 
  (delay=o)> 
  > 
  Regards,> 
  > 
  jayson> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > 
  Jayson> -----Original 
  Message-----> From: dingo 
  [mailto:dingo@xxxx]> Sent: 
  Monday, March 17, 2003 4:23 PM<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Code challenge - gurus on 
  your toes!> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Have I tried it? NO but looks like that is the magic 
  answer!!!> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > I 
  get totally wrapped around the axle to this day on what is 
  anarray 
  and> what is not an 
  array.> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > If 
  you have the time could you explain how this works at 
  theindividual 
  bar> level? If not I 
  understand and really appreciate this!! It just<FONT 
  face="Courier New">might help> 
  the little light go on in my head (yea, right!).<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> One more thing: Do you use Amibroker to signal trades 
  with delay = 1 and> Price = 
  Open?  On the evening before the trade do you use plots 
  totell 
  you> to trade the next morning 
  or do you use some formula in the AA and run a<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Scan or Explore to tell you?<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Thanks Jason!  You are great to be here help us 
  as much as you do!> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  d> <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > -----Original 
  Message-----> From: Jayson 
  [mailto:jcasavant@xxxx]> Sent: 
  Monday, March 17, 2003 3:56 PM<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Code challenge - gurus on 
  your toes!> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > Dale 
  have you tried lastvalue(tmpdelay)<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > tmpDelay = 
  IIf(Status("action") == 5, 1, 0);<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  tmpdelay=LastValue(tmpdelay);> 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > I 
  think this needs to be a fixed number..<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  > <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Jayson<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  -----Original Message-----> 
  From: dingo [mailto:dingo@xxxx]<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:41 
  PM> To: 
  _amibroker_yahoo> Subject: 
  [amibroker] Code challenge - gurus on your toes!<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > I'm 
  trying to write some AFL code that will change the trade delays 
  and> trade prices based solely 
  on whether the code is being run in the back<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> tester/optimizer or not.<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  Here's a feeble attempt that doesn't work:<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  tmpDelay = IIf(Status("action") == 5, 1, 0);<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> tmpPrice = IIf(Status("action") == 5, Open, 
  Close);> 
  > SetTradeDelays(tmpDelay, 
  tmpDelay, tmpDelay, tmpDelay);<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> BuyPrice = SellPrice = ShortPrice = CoverPrice = 
  tmpPrice;> 
  > Lets see if you can solve 
  this one!  (Use of vbScript is permissable)<FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
  d> <FONT 
  face="Courier New">> > 
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