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RE: [amibroker] Backtest: EOD. Trade: almost EOD.



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<SPAN 
class=694012023-31102002>Ed,
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The 
ETFs are nice, but I am trying to avoid commissions. My account size is 
relatively small and my system triggers a trade every 3 days on average. 
The commisions could quickly add up.
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<SPAN 
class=694012023-31102002>Thankfully, Rydex has excellent cut-off times and no 
commissions whatsoever. Very pleased with Rydex so far.
<SPAN 
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Need 
to think more about injecting stress into the system backtest as you 
suggest.
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<SPAN 
class=694012023-31102002>Thanks,
<SPAN 
class=694012023-31102002>-Steve

<FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: E Winters 
[mailto:e.winters@xxxx]Sent: Thursday, October 31,2002 
5:32 PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
[amibroker] Backtest: EOD. Trade: almost EOD.
Steve,
A few comments:
-My broker has a cutoff time of either 12 noon or 
2 pm for entry of mutual fund orders.  You may want to check the latest 
time for entry of orders.  You should also calculate the amount of time 
you will need in order to place the order.  Phone orders can take 5-10 
minutes additional.  That time should be factored in and may push back 
the time you have to make a decision by.
 
- Backtesting should show stress for the 
system.  If you are buying, then you should at least buy at the lowest 
price of the day, not the 3:45 pm price unless it is the lowest  If you 
are buying a negative index fund, then you should buy at least at the highest 
price of the day.  I would also add an additional amount for market 
movement after you place your trade.  Using a percentage of average true 
range ATR would give you a way to do this.
 
- You might try backtesting with some of the 
exchange traded funds.  These ETF's trade like stocks, but have the 
qualities of mutual funds.  They have intraday prices so you can backtest 
with SP500 intraday data and execute with the ETF.  Some tickers areIWM, 
IWN, etc.  Of course you would have to get the intraday day for these 
funds, but I assume you have intraday data for the S&P, so you shouldbe 
able to get data for the ETF's from your same data source.
Regards,
Ed
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Steve 
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Sent: Thursday, October 31, 20022:07 
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Subject: [amibroker] Backtest: EOD. 
Trade: almost EOD.

My mechanical 
system generates buy/sell signals using SP500 EOD data and is backtested 
assuming the trade is made on the same day before the final closing price is 
known.
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I am considering 
trading the system with mutual funds by obtaining the current SP500 
price at 3:45 with the assumption that the prices will not move too 
much during the last 15 minutes of the day.
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<FONTface=Arial 
size=2>Does anyone have comments on the 
wisdom of this approach?
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It would be nice 
to somehow backtest the system by injecting noise into the closing prices. I 
want to simulate slightly inaccurate closing prices to generate buy/sell 
signal, but I must use the actual closing prices for the profit/loss 
calculations. I'm not entirely sure how to do this.
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Any advise or 
comments would be appreciated.
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<SPAN 
class=544235218-31102002>Cheers,
<SPAN 
class=544235218-31102002>-Steve
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