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<SPAN 
class=250430113-26102002>Herman:
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I, too, enjoy your 
posts because they make me think. Even though you are a recalcitrant curmudgeon 
:-))), I still like you and your posts! Let me answer one more time, and 
then I'll stop. 
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"High 
Performance systems" are those that give >100%ann.. on the average 
(N100) per year when they work...Never argue with your 
system performance indicators as they are much more important than market 
(trend) indicators.
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Question:How do you 
establish system performance indicators? More importantly, how do you know when 
your system suddenly stops performing? I presume you won't know until afteryou 
have suffered some losses. Yet, even when you are winning, there is a finite 
probability that you will suffer a string of losses. So, how do you know when 
your system is performing poorly before it is too late to stop trading 
it?
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My 
revised :-) understanding of MM is that it trades profits for safety. I 
believe you can reduce risk by diversification in stocks and systems. 
Even "Market Wizards" and "Gurus" go out of style ...most of them talk about 
past accomplishments. They can use knowledge and trading 
methods way beyond anything we will ever command - they are out of our 
league.
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I really don't think 
MM trades profits for safety. Take a look at my post to Thomas a few minutes ago 
regarding risk betting in a trading simulation game. You can take much larger 
positions on your individual trades as long as you recognize you are playing 
with both your money AND the market's money. You control risk and still advance 
your profitability greatly without affecting expectancy. This is all part of MM. 
Diversification has nothing to do with any of this. Each trade you make, whether 
you are trading correlated markets or not, is treated the same way (i.e., based 
on your equity at the time of the trade). And, of course, there is nothing wrong 
with emulating market wizards and gurus. They trade big bucks, we trade small 
bucks. But the principles are exactly the same regardless of your account size. 

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2) I 
emphasized that my statements were based on personal experience, they reflect 
what happened when I applied van Tharp's ATR stops to my systems: it 
literally killed them flat. Perhaps wrongly, I assumed that since they are 
called Tharp's stops that they are part of MM. I didn't know how to test 
anything else in MM.
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Agreed. Idon't know 
how to test the type of MM I've been talking about either other than by engaging 
in trading simulation games. So, you still use Amibroker to help you develop 
your system based on your trading rules. You then go to the simulation games and 
practice various MM strategies to see how well your profitability behaves when 
using innovative MM techniques.
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<FONT 
color=#0000ff>So, we are really talking about something they say that works but 
nobody has confirmed it at our competence level? 
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I think it works 
because all it is is an application of a mathematical manipulation of how you 
bet. Professional blackjack and poker players and other game theorist 
types use these techniques all the time. They have nothing to do with your 
trading system. That's what you have to keep in mind. 
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<FONT 
color=#0000ff>But the discussion raised points that would not have been covered 
after I'd been brainwashed like you. It is like TA, you can really get sucked 
into sophisticated chart analysis using the weirdest (sorry folks) graphing 
tools or even the position of the moon (sorry again) while simpler methods work 
just as well or better. Please don't react by starting a thread on the 
merits of golden age TA... :-)
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I would take issue 
with your use of the word "brainwashed." Don't worry, I didn't take it 
personally. I think I just bought off on the whole idea of MM because it makes 
mathematical and logical sense to me, and of course mathematics is the purest 
science, as you know. I wholehearted agree with you on the use of TA; in that 
regard, we are very much alike. I strictly adhere to the KISS principle. 

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Thanks again, 
Herman, for a great thread. Now, back to system development!
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Al 
V.