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Re: [amibroker] Turtle trading with AB?



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Yes, I am familiar with it. I bought the Turtle manual several years ago 
and at the time thought it was a complete waste of money. It was so poorly 
written grammatically as well as technically that it was virtually impossible to 
understand what they were writing. The explanations were atrocious as were the 
examples given. Then, more recently, they revised it completely. Now it is 
substantially more understandable, and the examples are more lucid and make 
sense. So, would I recommend buying it? If you are committed to long term trend 
following, which I am, I think I would recommend it. A big negative is the 
technical support, which is a major disappointment. When you write in and 
ask a question, if you get more than a 3-word answer, consider yourself lucky. 
In fact, the support downright sucks. The most important part of trading like a 
Turtle is money management. Even the master trader himself, Richard Dennis,the 
co-founder of the Turtles, says that the entry and exit are not that important; 
it's the money management that makes you money (although you still have to have 
a positive expectancy system, which is determined by the entries and exits). In 
fact, the actual entry and exit are quite simple: it's simply a channel breakout 
system where you buy the highest high over the last n days and exit at the 
lowest low over the last m days (there are other exits, too, such as a hard2ATR 
stoploss at trade initiation). Same for shorting. You can optimize n and m if 
you like. That part is no secret. The critical part is the money managementand 
pyramiding scheme. That's what separates the Turtles from the rest of traders. 
Turtles never risk more that 2% of total equity on any one trade. That's a very 
important feature of the Turtle system, and as far as I'm concernd, of any 
system. 
 
Hope this discussion helps. Good luck with your decision. 
 
Al Venosa
 
 
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Subject: RE: [amibroker] Turtle trading 
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:09 PMTo: 
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] Turtle trading with 
AB?

Dear fellow users,
 
has anybody had some experience trading the 
"turtle way"?
 
Besides, has someone ordered material from <A 
href="">www.turtletrader.com or Russell Sands 
and is satisfied with it (regarding the scope of material and/or the trading 
results so far??????
 
Any comment is highly 
appreciated!!!!
 
Thanks
 
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